[Daan23]

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I thought that trademark is restricted to words invented by companies (like windows or nike)? Is a word like christian, that has existed for so long, not anyones (or god's) word?

And yes in fact I have considered Christianity. I have read most of the bible (A translation to dutch,protestant) and found the old testament most interesting. I didn't finish the new testament because it seemed to me like the same story told over and over again . (no insult intended)
As I said the old testament interested me the most, the stories told give a hopeful view of the world I think. And sometimes I need a little hope to keep going in this mad world.

Thanks for the replies!

[New Creation (Recalcitrant)]

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So how are you? Are you happily maried?

I am indeed happily married, with two children.

I thought that trademark is restricted to words invented by companies (like windows or nike)? Is a word like christian, that has existed for so long, not anyones (or god's) word?

The word "Christian" due to its wide use, even as a misnomer, cannot be trademarked- however, the phrase "True Christian™" can be trademarked as it is used exclusively to identify members of Landover Baptist Church in good standing. Imagine the chaos if just anyone could call themselves a True Christian(tm).

And yes in fact I have considered Christianity. I have read most of the bible (A translation to dutch,protestant) and found the old testament most interesting. I didn't finish the new testament because it seemed to me like the same story told over and over again . (no insult intended)
As I said the old testament interested me the most, the stories told give a hopeful view of the world I think. And sometimes I need a little hope to keep going in this mad world.

Thanks for the replies!

Jesus is the only hope we need. Tell me friend, are you ready to let Jesus enter you and fill you with his love?

[Daan23]

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Jesus is the only hope we need. Tell me friend, are you ready to let Jesus enter you and fill you with his love?

But I already feel love from everything and everyone, why seclude myself? The world is beautiful in all it's ways. I love stormy weather to show me how tiny I am, but I never witnessed God, I can't see him.
Also, isn't God in all of us when he created us?

Would you like to tell me when and how you let Jesus enter you and fill you with his love?

[Two-Dollar Bill]

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Would you like to tell me when and how you let Jesus enter you and fill you with his love?

C'mon now Dean, this is your introduction. Perhaps you can answer your own question for the rest of us. You can ask New Creation personal questions on his introduction thread.

[Daan23]

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I'm sorry for going off topic then, I just never had the love of Jesus. How does it differ from any other love? Is it that I do not know the difference? Does it take time? Is it because my parants are unbelievers?

[New Creation (Recalcitrant)]

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But I already feel love from everything and everyone, why seclude myself? The world is beautiful in all it's ways. I love stormy weather to show me how tiny I am, but I never witnessed God, I can't see him.
Also, isn't God in all of us when he created us?

Would you like to tell me when and how you let Jesus enter you and fill you with his love?

There are many paths to the same destination- HELL.

The beauty that you are so good at seeing in the natural world is evidence of God's invisible attributes:

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:" - Romans 1:20.

When you stand before God on judgement day and He asks you why you were never saved, you will be without excuse because you, just like the rest of us, are able to see God through His creation.

Also, God isn't in all of us, his breath is in all of us, and even that is in question, because it is possible that women don't have souls.

[Daan23]

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There are many paths to the same destination- HELL.

The beauty that you are so good at seeing in the natural world is evidence of God's invisible attributes:

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:" - Romans 1:20.

When you stand before God on judgement day and He asks you why you were never saved, you will be without excuse because you, just like the rest of us, are able to see God through His creation.

No that's the thing, I can't see God through His creation. Wether I try or not. Is it not enough to show in my actions love and forgiveness like Jesus told us? To live by the ten commandments?

Also, God isn't in all of us, his breath is in all of us, and even that is in question, because it is possible that women don't have souls.

So no women in heaven?

[New Creation (Recalcitrant)]

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No that's the thing, I can't see God through His creation. Wether I try or not. Is it not enough to show in my actions love and forgiveness like Jesus told us? To live by the ten commandments?

No, it's not enough.

Everyone is a sinner,

"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" - Romans 3:23

God, being just, must punish sinners,

"For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." - Romans 6:23

But there is a way to have eternal life,

"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" - Romans 10:13

You can't just be a good person and be saved,

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." - Matthew 7:21-23

When you are saved, you are forgiven of all past sins, and you stop sinning, so the punishment of death no longer applies to you,

"Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him." - 1 John 3:6

And you can't blame God for sending you to Hell. Your sin is like a weight dragging you there. You could take the weight off, but if you don't you're just getting what's coming to you.

So tell me, friend, will you give your heart to Jesus and be saved, or will you let yourself burn in hellfire for eternity?

So no women in heaven?

Read the link I gave you.

[Daan23]

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No, sorry I can't do it.
First, God created us knowing and almighty as He is, He also created the snake and the tree of wisdom. Knowing Eva would be subdued to eat from it. Then He damns His Own creation and trows them out of paradise. Jezus comes along and dies for our sins, the sins his Father created. And now I and everybody on this planet are still born in sin? And God punishes everybody with death except for when they go to church? Everybody dies, and I don't think 'letting Jezus in me' is going to fix anything.
Why should I give my heart to Jezus? If i'm understanding correctly he didn't die for our sins! They are still birthburden. My heart belongs to those I love and who I care for/care for me, Jezus doesn't care for me, God doesn't care for me, and quite frankly, I think a random tramp if given love will give me more love back than God.

Furthermore, why is it just to punish sinners? With death no less! Is it not better, more just, to give a sinner the chance to be saved? Wether it be in this life OR the next? It's like capital punishment to the max, once convicted, there is no knowing what a person could have accomplished, be it good or bad.

whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

So sinners have never seen God nor known him but then how to come to God? If all newborns are with sin, how do people find God? Not knowing nor seeing him? I just don't get it.

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Does this not say that calling our Lord Lord is not enough? As I said, are our actions not more important than our words?

Women, like the members of the animal kingdom, will fall by the wayside."

And what is this with women? I know they can act crazy sometimes but to suggest they are alike animals, might as well sleep with goats then. What kind of moral is it to love someone for all your life, share everything with her, through the good days and the bad? And then just dump her like an animal?

No good sir, I am not ready to give Jezus my heart. Not the Jezus you describe.

[New Creation (Recalcitrant)]

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No good sir, I am not ready to give Jezus my heart. Not the Jezus you describe.

Friend, I've done all I can do. My work here is done.

Your blood is not on my hands.

"When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand." - Ezekiel 3:18

[Daan23]

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there is no blood

[New Creation (Recalcitrant)]

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there is no blood

It was a reference to the verse.

I'm through replying to your inane babble.

Goodbye.

[Daan23]

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I was also referring to the verse, I will not die for wickedness, for I am not wicked.

[New Creation (Recalcitrant)]

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I was also referring to the verse, I will not die for wickedness, for I am not wicked.

I'm going to make an exception to my previous post, just for you.

Let me spell it out:

"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" - Romans 3:23

"For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." - Romans 6:23

[Daan23]

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So I should act on my fear for death/eternal hellfire?
I'm happy that you decided to continue this conversation, for I think it is a good one.