[Pastor Ed Lowman]

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By that I assume you mean multiculturalism? USA has a higher divorce rate then Australia and allows homosexual marriage. Unless you are talking about religious beliefs.

Yes, the USA does have a staggeringly high divorce rate. Gay marriage, well that's still opposed by the Godly majority and the Department of Faith is going to shut that down. But we surely don't have sex with kangaroos. And I haven't checked, but we might have fewer people calling themselves tired and claiming it is a medical condition.

Be careful knocking the United States, boy. The United States happens to be God's favorite nation because our leadership (minus the blasphemous Obama administration) stands with Jesus.

"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." (Luke 22:36)

If Jesus had a truck, it would have a confederate flag on it and would be gun rack equipped.

[Cquhwipp]

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By that I assume you mean multiculturalism? USA has a higher divorce rate then Australia and allows homosexual marriage. Unless you are talking about religious beliefs.

[Faith_Machine]

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So I'm assuming that would be the same for the United States of America then? I could theoretically say the same thing about America that Mitza said about Australia and it would be considered racism?

Is "American" a race? No, so that wouldn't be racism.

And America is full of heathens, sodomites, witches, and dope addicts. It's horrible here. It's not quite as bad as Australia, though, mainly because we still have some sense of morality, which the filthy Australians lack.

[Cquhwipp]

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So I'm assuming that would be the same for the United States of America then? I could theoretically say the same thing about America that Mitza said about Australia and it would be considered racism?

[Faith_Machine]

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"Australian" is not a race. Ergo, Mitza has not made a racist statement.

Perhaps you were confused, and thought she was referring to Australopithecus afarensis, which I believe is a breed of negro that went extinct at the time of the great flood. I wouldn't be too worried about hurting any Australopithecus's feelings, as they're all dead and burning in Hell!

[Cquhwipp]

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Australia is a dreadful heathen place.

That's unnecessary. Racism (which it is) on a website that does not condone it is really just not acceptable. I say it is racism because you are targeting a large audience with obscene language, calling each member of Australia dreadful and heathen. I asked for no racism in my thread. Instead I get this.

And beliefs are what drive religion, science, understanding of anything and everything. Moral codes are affected by beliefs. To believe in something is to follow something with passion. I believe in Jesus.

[MitzaLizalor]

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Hi all.

Just signed up to the forum as I was browsing through the internet, and I must say the majority of this community seems to have a firm and fixed belief on how people should live their life. I'm not judging those opinions, whether they are wrong or right, towards an ethical standard.
Anyway, I live in Australia and I have attended a number of churches over the past few years - Uniting church, Catholic church, Baptist church - and they all have similar views towards what Jesus was teaching, and each taught in a different way.

I'm posting here to ask what your thoughts are on ailments, and if you have a previous thread on it could you link it to me? Thank you.

Hello Mr Cquhwipp (you mentioned a girlfriend so I'm assuming you're male). Welcome to Landover Baptist I noticed you've mentioned "beliefs" on several occasions; where The Bible explains something there is no room for beliefs or ideas or interpretations. The matter is settled.

ACTS 8:27-28 And he arose and went : and, behold , a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship, Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.

Reading on we find that verse29 has:

29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.

IT DOES NOT SAY:
29 The chariot was constructed from laminated birch with leather-strap cradle suspension and no coiled springs were to be found neither were there any metal suspension components which are an abomination.

We are not given any commandments regarding the construction of chariots for eunuchs, whether they are permitted to have metal springs or engines. When choosing a chariot the springs are up to you. BUT YOU COULD NEVER OWN A VEHICLE WITH IDOLS IN IT because God has commanded it is so. That is not a belief. It is a clear and explicit instruction from God. The Bible says:

II TIMOTHY 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

We do not state "beliefs" or "ideas" or "opinions" but present God's Word and any discussion of leather cradle/metal coil is irrelevant. Similarly there is no place for discussion of idols.

DEUTERONOMY 5:8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image,
or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in
the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:

God prohibits idols. Case closed.

Australia is a dreadful heathen place. Thank-you for posting in the introduction forum.

[Faith_Machine]

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I did not say that? I quoted that from someone else in this forum?

Ah, I see that I was indeed confused; you had been quoting the words of Billy Bob Jenkins, a Godly man with a keen understanding of the Bible.

I must apologize, friend, for this terrible misunderstanding.

Now then, Billy Bob, since I know your grasp of scripture is beyond reproach, I'm going to have to put this question to you:

What action, exactly, should I take if I happen to stumble across a Catholic priest in the act of buggering a young boy?

Do I really have to forgive that priest seventy seven times prior to making him remove his manhood from that poor boy's rectum and smiting him good?

[Cquhwipp]

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No. I'm pretty sure I didn't try to contradict myself? I'm too confused by what you are talking about. I did not say Jesus said "SMASH RULES RAWR" (obviously you didn't say that but you did say something along those lines), but I did say Jesus did bring new ideas to the 'table', and I never said that all the old testaments law was to be removed. All I said was Jesus brought new ideas to the 'table' and changed the "eye for an eye" law to suit a certain guideline of living life with compassion and love.

Also, you told me to contradict you or prove you wrong when you asked me where was my proof. So why are you trying to make it out like I'm being bad? I'm just answering your questions and I don't need you to tell me I'm contradicting myself when I have a very firm and obvious belief that JESUS IS MY SAVIOR, and I have not said anything otherwise throughout this thread.

Jesus did not contradict himself, but brought about new ideas and laws to follow, mending some of the old laws that His Father had previously introduced.

Are you trying to contradict yourself as being a Christian by saying that you don't need to love everything? Friends or foes, Jesus taught love. Being a Christian means you follow what Christ said does it not? Hence the name 'Christian'. If you are not a Christian then what are you? This isn't meant to be interpreted as an attack on anyone, I am just curious.

I looked it up and in the dictionary the word Christian means:
A person who has received Christian baptism or is a believer in Jesus Christ and his teachings.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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I'm pretty sure I said some laws, not all laws, particularly the ones that involve hurting others after they hurt you.

To be clear I agree with Jesus teaching of:
Matthew 5:38“You have heard that it was said, ‘AN EYE FOR AN EYE, AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.’ 39“But I say to you, do not resist an evil person; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40“If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also. 41“Whoever forces you to go one mile, go with him two. 42“Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away from him who wants to borrow from you.
43“You have heard that it was said, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR and hate your enemy.’ 44“But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46“For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47“If you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? 48“Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
This was to replace the act of retaliating when attacked. I saw a thread on this forum about a child beating up another child... That is a direct act against what Jesus said, as being 'Christian' entails following the words that Christ our savior taught us through his parables and his death. This is why I am suggesting that maybe some of the older rules that were in the old testament MIGHT be void. This also states that everyone is equal - I am pretty sure that is socialism, and the people who killed Jesus were capitalists - and that we as Christians should love everyone. Jesus walked with the commoners, not the wealthy in the society, and healed those who believed and did not believe alike. The blind man didn't know of Jesus and then he was healed. Christ healed those who did not believe and did not treat his disciples any better then he treated those who passed by in a street. Was Jesus not sent to be a way of guidance to God's people, so that they may learn and follow in Jesus footsteps so that His sacrifice was not in vain.

So let me get this straight. You said that Jesus wanted us to break some of God's laws. I corrected you by quoting the following scripture:

Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Then you attempted to contradict me by quoting other scripture, insinuating that Jesus contradicted Himself? Is that correct? Is that what you have done?

[Cquhwipp]

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My friend, did you or did you not post the following words?




The only one twisting words here is you, and the words you're twisting are God's.

I'd love for you to prove me wrong, though. Please pick up a copy of the 1611 King James Bible and show me where it says we should not intervene when we witness acts of pederasty.

Please also show me where it says we should not "dare" to judge them.

I did not say that? I quoted that from someone else in this forum?

[Faith_Machine]

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My friend, did you or did you not post the following words?

Originally Posted by Cquhwipp
It says to forgive rapists, murderers, and pederasts seventy times seven times before even daring to judge them, much less intervene.

The only one twisting words here is you, and the words you're twisting are God's.

I'd love for you to prove me wrong, though. Please pick up a copy of the 1611 King James Bible and show me where it says we should not intervene when we witness acts of pederasty.

Please also show me where it says we should not "dare" to judge them.

[Cquhwipp]

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I never said anything like that and why would you twist my words like that? I only said to love humanity, and not hurt someone who hurts you (I should have stated 'within parameters'). Obviously you would not let what you said happen, it's the same with murder, but Jesus taught us to love and except. I Never said ignore God's commandments.

[Faith_Machine]

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It says to forgive rapists, murderers, and pederasts seventy times seven times before even daring to judge them, much less intervene.

Hold on there, pal: You're telling us the Bible says we shouldn't intervene if we observe a pederast buggering a young boy?

You must be reading a Catholic Bible.

[Cquhwipp]

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That's a good start. Our church takes not just the verse or the chapter or the subject into consideration, but the entire Bible. Since we are homeschooled, we throw out science and memorize the whole Bible at a young age. If you don't memorize the Bible, then how do you know if you're following the whole thing at one time?

Where does it say that in the Bible? It says to love God and your neighbors. It says to forgive rapists, murderers, and pederasts seventy times seven times before even daring to judge them, much less intervene. But where does it say to love everything? There are many instances where we are commanded to kill. Are you saying the Bible is some sort of code meant only for the cognoscenti to understand?



So you're saying that Jesus' temporary sacrifice means we don't have to follow the laws? Jesus didn't think so.

Matthew 5:18 (King James Version) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Which laws were you thinking we don't have to follow? Where does it say in the Bible that we don't have to follow those laws?

Why would you spit on Jesus' teachings like this?

I'm pretty sure I said some laws, not all laws, particularly the ones that involve hurting others after they hurt you.

To be clear I agree with Jesus teaching of:
Matthew 5:38“You have heard that it was said, ‘AN EYE FOR AN EYE, AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.’ 39“But I say to you, do not resist an evil person; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40“If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also. 41“Whoever forces you to go one mile, go with him two. 42“Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away from him who wants to borrow from you.
43“You have heard that it was said, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR and hate your enemy.’ 44“But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46“For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47“If you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? 48“Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
This was to replace the act of retaliating when attacked. I saw a thread on this forum about a child beating up another child... That is a direct act against what Jesus said, as being 'Christian' entails following the words that Christ our savior taught us through his parables and his death. This is why I am suggesting that maybe some of the older rules that were in the old testament MIGHT be void. This also states that everyone is equal - I am pretty sure that is socialism, and the people who killed Jesus were capitalists - and that we as Christians should love everyone. Jesus walked with the commoners, not the wealthy in the society, and healed those who believed and did not believe alike. The blind man didn't know of Jesus and then he was healed. Christ healed those who did not believe and did not treat his disciples any better then he treated those who passed by in a street. Was Jesus not sent to be a way of guidance to God's people, so that they may learn and follow in Jesus footsteps so that His sacrifice was not in vain.