[The Cynic]

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So if you are right then I spend eternity in peace,

And if I am right you spend eternity screaming in agony.

Are you sure you have thought this through?

Yeah. Probably. I am totally aware of this. But hey, at least I'll have done something worthwhile with my life before burning in agony. It's these little things that make me happy

[James Hutchins]

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I assumed that saying I was British meant it was CofE. My apologies, I realise now that it was misleading.



No. I have proof of your existance. You are not a voice in my head. You type etc. Once again, apologies for possibly being misleading.

Thank you for admitting you were misleading us.

I did not say I hated the Earth. I said I hated the world. I was speaking of the people and culture therein and what they do to each other and the Earth. Make no mistake, I am no environmentalist, but I enjoy nature itself.

If where you live is bad, change it or move. Everyone where I live is God loving and always full of happiness. My son has a terrific quote for you "If the John is plugged, use a plunger or leave the room and call a plumber'. Life is the same way, if it stinks, fix it or call upon God for help. But it is up to you to make the first move.

I am aware of that. I was merely pointing out that you had returned to the same argument that Jesus is fact because the literature glorifying him says so. That would be like me saying Harry Potter is the main character in a book, therefore he is real. I don't because he isn't.

My words here are just like those in a book yet you beleive in my existence. I think you need to reconsider your hard drawn line in the sand for a moment.
If you never saw a bear, you'd have faith they existed because people told you they exist and you read about them in books.

[The Cynic]

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Thank you for admitting you were misleading us.

Unintentionally

If where you live is bad, change it or move. Everyone where I live is God loving and always full of happiness. My son has a terrific quote for you "If the John is plugged, use a plunger or leave the room and call a plumber'. Life is the same way, if it stinks, fix it or call upon God for help. But it is up to you to make the first move.

A good point. However, I was talking about the world in general. Where I live is pretty much all right.

My words here are just like those in a book yet you beleive in my existence. I think you need to reconsider your hard drawn line in the sand for a moment.
If you never saw a bear, you'd have faith they existed because people told you they exist and you read about them in books.

Unlike those in a book, you are speaking back to me. You think, you reply to my notions. And I have seen photos and movies of bears (as well as in real life). That is like saying that a monster exists because people told me about it and I read about it in books. I am sceptical of everything until proven fact.

[Jack O'fagan]

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Yeah. Probably. I am totally aware of this. But hey, at least I'll have done something worthwhile with my life before burning in agony. It's these little things that make me happy

After 10 Billion years of agony I think those happy thoughts could fade, and you would have hardly started.

YIC

Jack

[James Hutchins]

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A good point. However, I was talking about the world in general. Where I live is pretty much all right..

You are a very confusing/confused person. I see a lack of clarity in your words. You think the world is a terrible place except where you are. Have you seen the entire world? I have not and I have my own plane. I see people who hate themselves and hate God. I see people who love themselves and love God. I have seen tribes of savages who spent thier lives killing one another until they were taight about God. Now they do not murder each other. They were clothes. Are schooled, work for the betterment as God has instructed.

Unlike those in a book, you are speaking back to me. You think, you reply to my notions. And I have seen photos and movies of bears (as well as in real life). That is like saying that a monster exists because people told me about it and I read about it in books. I am sceptical of everything until proven fact

You should do some reading on AI. Just because I respond, does not mean I exist. You have faith that because I respond, I exist. That same faith is all God asks for.

[The Cynic]

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After 10 Billion years of agony I think those happy thoughts could fade, and you would have hardly started.

YIC

Jack

That's only if you're correct. To be honest, the Biblical heaven sounds ultimately boring too. Also, to think about things logically, eventually your body gets used to pain. When the Bible was written, they were unaware of this, therefore did not factor it into their assumptions of hell. So after 10 billion years, I can only assume I'll have got used to the pain and it won't quite be so bad.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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So after 10 billion years, I can only assume I'll have got used to the pain and it won't quite be so bad.

You're saying you could get used to having your intestines deep fried in Satan's six hundred degree demon semen, and having your rectum ripped out by the barbs and serrations on his intumescent tallywacker?

I'm sorry, but I don't think I would be putting ANY of my eggs in that basket.

[The Cynic]

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You are a very confusing/confused person. I see a lack of clarity in your words. You think the world is a terrible place except where you are. Have you seen the entire world? I have not and I have my own plane. I see people who hate themselves and hate God. I see people who love themselves and love God. I have seen tribes of savages who spent thier lives killing one another until they were taight about God. Now they do not murder each other. They were clothes. Are schooled, work for the betterment as God has instructed.

I did not mean that the entire world is terrible, save where I am. I meant that there are so many wars, religious or none. If God was real, should He not say something? If not, that is even worse. I would not want to believe in a God who wished for millions of people to die so that He only gets the ones who believe in Him truly. That sounds like propaganda designed to terrify those who do not wish to follow the outdated doctrines of the Bible.

You should do some reading on AI. Just because I respond, does not mean I exist. You have faith that because I respond, I exist. That same faith is all God asks for.

I am aware of AI. Probably even more so than you. Are you comparing your God to a mindless bot? You're proving my point in an attempt to prove your own. AI are programmed by people, therefore you are saying that for God exist, he would be made up by people. Nice. God has never responded to me or anyone I know. I can't have faith in that. Sorry.

[Zechariah Smyth]

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Imagine changing a transmission in hell, with flames blasting all around you, and demons poking at you, and guys like this standing around trying to convince themselves that everything is just fine, and handing you METRIC instead of normal...yuck.

YiC,

Zech
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[The Cynic]

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You're saying you could get used to having your intestines deep fried in Satan's six hundred degree demon semen, and having your rectum ripped out by the barbs and serrations on his intumescent tallywacker?

I'm sorry, but I don't think I would be putting ANY of my eggs in that basket.

Where in the Bible does it say that? I was merely referring to the flames of eternal damnation. You have thought much too hard on Satan's penis. I never even considered that kind of thing.

[The Cynic]

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Imagine changing a transmission in hell, with flames blasting all around you, and demons poking at you, and guys like this standing around trying to convince themselves that everything is just fine, and handing you METRIC instead of normal...yuck.

YiC,

Zech
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I wouldn't try to convince myself everything is fine. It clearly wouldn't be. Also, what's wrong with metric? It measures things just as well as imperial. If they use metric in hell, it can't be all bad.

[Jack O'fagan]

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That's only if you're correct. To be honest, the Biblical heaven sounds ultimately boring too. Also, to think about things logically, eventually your body gets used to pain. When the Bible was written, they were unaware of this, therefore did not factor it into their assumptions of hell. So after 10 billion years, I can only assume I'll have got used to the pain and it won't quite be so bad.

Maybe you are right. I tell you what, can you put your hand into the blue flame of a blowtorch for a few hours and tell me when you are getting used to it?

Remember that Jesus will be watching you burn in hell.

Revelation 14:10
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

If you look like you are starting to relax I'm sure He can turn the heat up a bit.

Glory!

Jack

[The Cynic]

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Maybe you are right. I tell you what, can you put your hand into the blue flame of a blowtorch for a few hours and tell me when you are getting used to it?

Remember that Jesus will be watching you burn in hell.

Revelation 14:10
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

If you look like you are starting to relax I'm sure He can turn the heat up a bit.

Glory!

Jack

Why would I do that? I'm not in hell yet. Doesn't Jesus have anything better to do? He seems like a busy guy from what you keep saying. He sounds like a lovely person. This definitely sounds like my kind of religion.

Do I need to post the little sarcasm smilie, or will you lot take me seriously?

[Jack O'fagan]

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Why would I do that? I'm not in hell yet. Doesn't Jesus have anything better to do? He seems like a busy guy from what you keep saying. He sounds like a lovely person. This definitely sounds like my kind of religion.

Do I need to post the little sarcasm smilie, or will you lot take me seriously?

We are just telling you how it is. If it's different from your previous Church that isn't surprising as that was clearly a false Church based on an edited fairytale version of Christianity. The 'believers' there will ALL be joining you in hell.

Matthew 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

YIC

Jack

[James Hutchins]

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I did not mean that the entire world is terrible, save where I am. I meant that there are so many wars, religious or none. If God was real, should He not say something? If not, that is even worse. I would not want to believe in a God who wished for millions of people to die so that He only gets the ones who believe in Him truly. That sounds like propaganda designed to terrify those who do not wish to follow the outdated doctrines of the Bible.

You pose some interesting questions. Did you know, they are all answered already? God has said something, many times. People think they know better. Do you have a pet dog? Were you able to train it and now it does everything you tell it? Of course not. That is why dogs get run over in the street. Yes, it is sad to see a dog flattened on the road, its' intestines covering an entire lane. But it is dead for one reason. It did not listen. Just like all the people who die prematurely.

I am aware of AI. Probably even more so than you. Are you comparing your God to a mindless bot? You're proving my point in an attempt to prove your own. AI are programmed by people, therefore you are saying that for God exist, he would be made up by people. Nice. God has never responded to me or anyone I know. I can't have faith in that. Sorry.

Again, you assume. I have been writing computer programs since the inception of Microsoft. So I doubt you know more about it than I. Quite a few True Christians™ were involved with the efforts to develop AI, having left that pointless folly and instead, developed the JesOS 7.21, the most pure operating kernal in existence. As you know, at best, AI is only able to mimic what it has heard. It was programmed to know how to mimic. How an AI responds is based upon a algorythim of questions and key verbs. You know nothing more about me that a series of types responses. But you beleive I am real. But we digress.
God does respond to you, all the time. You chose to ignore Him. Reminds me of the Hurricane Katrina joke. Some jiggaboo is on the porch of his house, surrounded by water. A SUV pills up, the guy in it offers the guy on the porch a ride. The guy on the porch declines, stating "God will save me". The water rises. Now he is in the second floor, peering out a window. A guy in a boat copmes buy, offers the guy in the window a ride. The guy in the window sayes "No thanks, God will save me". Next thing you know, the water is to the top of the roof, a helipcopter comes by and the guy in the helicopter tells the guy on the roof to grab onto the rope. The guy on the reoof replies "No thanks, God will save me". So the guy drowns. When he sees St Peter, he asks "Why didn't God save me?" St. Peter says, "God sent you a SUV, a Boat and Helicopter. You chose to ignore Him". Of course with that, St. Peter found his name on a list and the guy was sent to Hell.