My study on logical fallacies.

[Mr.Dlan]

I will soon get my degree in psychology, and I wanted to research fallacies. Looking at a few posts, I find that this is the best place for testing. I will ask a few questions. Also, imply that a nihilist is asking you these question.
1. How do you know that god exists?
2. Would you believe anything in the bible and take every word literally?
3. What if you are presented with 100 contradictions in the bible that could only be written by human greed?
4. If there was a nonbeliever living in your 100% christian neighborhood, what would you do?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: My study on logical fallacies.

I will soon get my degree in psychology, and I wanted to research fallacies. Looking at a few posts, I find that this is the best place for testing. I will ask a few questions. Also, imply that a nihilist is asking you these question.
1. How do you know that god exists?
2. Would you believe anything in the bible and take every word literally?
3. What if you are presented with 100 contradictions in the bible that could only be written by human greed?
4. If there was a nonbeliever living in your 100% christian neighborhood, what would you do?

How in the world can you get a degree in psychology when you can't even read simple instructions?

The introduction forum Attention Unsaved Trash: This the ONLY subforum you can start threads in. Here is where you introduce yourself. Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.

[Mr.Dlan]

Re: My study on logical fallacies.

How in the world can you get a degree in psychology when you can't even read simple instructions?

I like it. Keep going.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: My study on logical fallacies.

I will soon get my degree in psychology, and I wanted to research fallacies. Looking at a few posts, I find that this is the best place for testing. I will ask a few questions. Also, imply that a nihilist is asking you these question.
1. How do you know that god exists?
2. Would you believe anything in the bible and take every word literally?
3. What if you are presented with 100 contradictions in the bible that could only be written by human greed?
4. If there was a nonbeliever living in your 100% christian neighborhood, what would you do?

Oh, goody. Another twit getting a BA in psychology (in 2015, I suspect).

That and $5 will get you a cup of coffee, kid. Hope you've got good shelf-stocking skills.

Maybe you should try reading more than "a few posts", and you will find the answers to your idiotic questions.

[Didymus Much]

Re: My study on logical fallacies.

I will soon get my degree in psychology, and I wanted to research fallacies...

Fallacies fall under Logic, which is studied in Philosophy. You're in the wrong school. Did you just waste three years (or more) of your life? Or do you know next to nothing about either of those fields, and are just making this up as you go along? Hmmm....

...Looking at a few posts, I find that this is the best place for testing...

I wonder what lead you to that conclusion? Could it be that this is the ONLY place you can start threads?

...I will ask a few questions...

Start-up initialization commencement beginning...

...Also, imply that a self-centered idiot is asking you these question...

FTFY.

...1. How do you know that god exists?...

How have you never learned the difference between knowledge and faith?

...2. Would you believe anything in the bible and take every word literally?...

Seeing as that what they're saying ALL THE TIME, what do you think?

...3. What if you are presented with 100 contradictions in the bible that could only be written by human greed?...

Please use the "Search" function (cleverly hidden at the TOP OF EVERY PAGE) to ensure that your lame gotcha from the SAB hasn't been refuted thousands of times previously.

...4. If there was a nonbeliever living in your 100% christian neighborhood, what would you do?

Bible says: 2 Chronicles 15:13 "That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman."

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: My study on logical fallacies.

Bible says: 2 Chronicles 15:13 "That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman."

Friendly atheist, I'm sorry to say that you are taking that out of context. (Not that it surprises me to see an atheist cherry-pick the Word to try to make it seem 'evil' by humanist standards.) That is an agreement/voluntary oath made among a particular group, the tribes of Judah and Benjamin, not a command to kill all nonbelievers.

As Christians living in a Godless nation, we True Christians™ follow the law of the land -- as God commands. Slaughtering nonbelievers is not permitted in the US of A.

BUT!

(Yes, there's a big, bouncy, juicy BUT!)

When we finally achieve a Christian Congress and White House in 2012 (taking office in 2013), and institute Godly Christian Biblical Law, I have no doubt that we will treat nonbelievers as Moses treated the Midianites.

Numbers 31, MrClam. Look it up.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: My study on logical fallacies.

I will soon get my degree in psychology, and I wanted to research fallacies. Looking at a few posts, I find that this is the best place for testing. I will ask a few questions. Also, imply that a nihilist is asking you these question.
1. How do you know that god exists?
2. Would you believe anything in the bible and take every word literally?
3. What if you are presented with 100 contradictions in the bible that could only be written by human greed?
4. If there was a nonbeliever living in your 100% christian neighborhood, what would you do?

This section of the forum is called the INTRODUCTION section, not the "Look at me, I'm so cool because I'm snarky at Christians" section.

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

[Zechariah Smyth]

I will soon get my degree in psychology, and I wanted to research fallacies. Looking at a few posts, I find that this is the best place for testing. I will ask a few questions. Also, imply that a nihilist is asking you these question.
1. How do you know that god exists?
2. Would you believe anything in the bible and take every word literally?
3. What if you are presented with 100 contradictions in the bible that could only be written by human greed?
4. If there was a nonbeliever living in your 100% christian neighborhood, what would you do?

Which school? Who is the professor teaching that class? Contact info? What is the exact title of your thesis?
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[Didymus Much]

Re: My study on logical fallacies.

...That is an agreement/voluntary oath made among a particular group, the tribes of Judah and Benjamin, not a command to kill all nonbelievers...

What you call the "tribe" of Judah was actually the nation of Judah, which during Asa's reign encompassed the southern half of what most people would consider the Israel of the time.

2 Chronicles 14 mentions Asa raising an army of 300 thousand out of Judah, and 280 thousand out of "Benjamin". If we assume that the Benjamin referred to there is the Kingdom of Israel, which was the northern half of what most people would refer to as the Israel of the time, so when Asa gathers "all Judah and Benjamin" he's gathering all of the Jews of the time. Therefore that oath applies to all Jews and other believers of the Bible.


Map of the region in the 9th century BCE

...As Christians living in a Godless nation, we True Christians™ follow the law of the land -- as God commands. Slaughtering nonbelievers is not permitted in the US of A...

At this time. The fact that 2 Chronicles 15:12 is held in temporary abeyance by laws worldwide does not remove that obligation from His Eternal and Unchanging Word now, does it, Reverend?

...BUT!...I have no doubt that we will treat nonbelievers as Moses treated the Midianites. ...

What, were the angels of the Lord busy that day? Or all tuckered out from previous ventures:

Exodus 23:23 "For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off. "

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: My study on logical fallacies.

Therefore that oath applies to all Jews and other believers of the Bible.

Please show me where the Bible says that Gentiles are bound by the oaths of pre-Christian Jews.

Then, please show me where the Bible says that non-believers are bound by the oaths of pre-Christian Jews. I'd suggest that all the instruction about how to treat 'strangers among you' (note: not execute them) would pretty well contradict the very idea that such bondage occurs, but I'm happy to see any evidence to the contrary you might wish to present.

Thanks!

[Didymus Much]

Re: My study on logical fallacies.

Please show me where the Bible says that Gentiles are bound by the oaths of pre-Christian Jews.

Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

...Then, please show me where the Bible says that non-believers are bound by the oaths of pre-Christian Jews...

I said Jews and believers of the Bible, not non-believers.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: My study on logical fallacies.

Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

Please show me where the Bible says that a voluntary oath taken by pre-Christian Jews is part of the God-given LAW; that is, a Commandment of God.

I said Jews and believers of the Bible, not non-believers.

Which means at most that it applies to apostates, and is therefore identical to the condition of the Midianites. Apostates, not non-Christians. (Not that you've shown that the oath of pre-Christian Jews is binding on Gentiles, of course.)

So the 2 Chronicles verse does not apply to the question asked by the OP, what a True Christian(tm) would do if he found a non-Christian living in his neighborhood.

Thank you for supporting my position!

You atheists sure are entertaining! You work so hard to make the Bible look ridiculous, and instead make yourselves look the fool with your cherry-picking.

[Didymus Much]

Re: My study on logical fallacies.

Please show me where the Bible says that a voluntary oath taken by pre-Christian Jews is part of the God-given LAW; that is, a Commandment of God...

2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: My study on logical fallacies.

2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

And?

I didn't say the Scripture was wrong. The verse describes an oath taken. It's explaining an event. It doesn't say the oath taken applies to anyone other than those who swore it.

Throwing out random Scripture isn't going to prove any point, atheist. Unelss your point is that you lack understanding.

You've already agreed that the death sentence only applies to apostates, so we're in agreement. Once you've reached agreement, it's time to stop arguing.

[Didymus Much]

Re: My study on logical fallacies.

...I didn't say the Scripture was wrong. The verse describes an oath taken. It's explaining an event. It doesn't say the oath taken applies to anyone other than those who swore it...

If it doesn't apply to anyone aside from those gathered there at that time, why is it in the Bible? Why have they been wasting paper in the KJV for four hundred years?

Are you saying some scripture is not profitable for instruction in righteousness?

...Throwing out random Scripture isn't going to prove any point, atheist...

Unless the point of the Scripture quoted is that there is no random Scripture.

...Unelss your point is that you lack understanding...

Also known as "Christian discernment", that baffling ability of otherwise intelligent people to delude themselves into the fantasy that an unproveable Being powerful enough to create this universe in its wondrous complexity would give a shit when they lost their piffling car keys or whether they make that touchdown pass or especially where they choose to stick their Johnsons (consenting adults only, of course). Yup, I ain't got that.

...You've already agreed that the death sentence only applies to apostates...

I don't recall agreeing that? When I was talking about the "Jews and other Bible believers", I meant those who would be responsible for enforcing the death sentence for all non-believers (frankly, your talk about the "state of the Midianites" just confused me; your knowledge on that subject is probably far greater than mine but I don't claim to be a Reverend on the internet).

As to who would be condemned by this Scripture, I see no reason for limiting it to apostates (those who forsake their religion). In the "those who would not seek" wording I see the implication that the opportunity to seek the Lord God of Israel must be offered, but nothing that says it must be accepted and then rejected before execution is Biblicly justified.