[LordIsMercy]

Re: HELLO MY MISGUIDED FRIENDS!

Friend, no one here is brainwashed. In fact, we probably turn away over 90% of people who wish to join our community.



We have a strict zero tolerance policy against racism.



Christianity is all about judgment.

The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible (Matthew 7:1-5)



Have you actually read the Bible? God's Word is clear that women must know their place.

Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Exodus 20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

Matthew 18:25 But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.

1st Corinthians 7:1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
1st Corinthians 7:2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

1 Corinthians 11:3-10 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

1 Timothy 2:9-15 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Ephesians 5:22-24 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Colossians 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord

Titus 2:3-5 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;
That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,
To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

1 Peter 3:1-6 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.

Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.



Where do you get that from?



How can you not believe it, fellow Christian?

Does not the book of James tell us that God can heal any affliction?
James 5:14-15 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

If it doesn't work, it's your fault for not asking correctly. James 4:3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.



Don't bring your vain utterances of so called science here. If God can heal the gays, He can heal the tards.



Oh please. Show me where we ever quote the Bible out of context. False Christians, like yourself, accuse us of quoting out of context if it's a part of the Bible they happen to disagree with. We are different, though. We follow ALL of it. Not just the parts that happen to agree with our fuzzy feel good cafeteria version of Christianity.


I didn't ask to become a Pastor. Jesus called me.

Ephesians 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.



Weren't you complaining that we are judgmental earlier in your rant? How does it feel to be such a massive hypocrite? Pretty good or not so much?


To whom is Paul speaking in this letter? Is he writing to non-believers? Of course not, Paul is writing to the Christians at Galatia.

I'm not even going to get into Jesus saying that Loving God is more important than even loving your neighbor either. I won't even bother showing you where that saying originates in the OT.

You already know everything and you sit high in the judgment seat. Are you starting to get a nose bleed yet? Being so much better and higher than us?

Finally, someone who actually provides an educated response. Thank you for this!


Okay first off, yes it is true that you turn many away, however maybe you should try accepting more to try and spread the word of the Lord?


As far as racism goes, look at your signature, Levi. That isn't racist? It is obviously using the phrase "re-nig" in a racist manner. Also, you may have this rule in place, it's just obviously not followed or enforced.


Judging: Yes, but to a certain extent. There should not be hate and disrespect in the judging, because this merely disgusts people and pushes them away from the word of the lord!


Sexist: Yes, but none of these verses talk about pyschologically manipulating women to make sure they obey (i saw a post encouraging men to damage their wife's self confidence so much that they are helpless and will not leave). So, to a certain extent, I agree with you.

Adulterous: I was referring to mostly Rev. Jim on this one.

Down Syndrome: My point was that Down Syndrome is not a choice of the lazy. It is a genetic disease. An entire, visible, extra Chromosome 21.

Out context: Earlier in this thread, my quote was used by Jeb out of context

Pastor: Wonderful.


I never said I was higher up or better than anyone.
Malachi 2:10
and
Romans 10:12





Roberta: Good try. It is much easier to cure an "idiot" than a person with the genetic disorder called Down Syndrome. And that webpage alone says nothing/proves nothing regarding this claimed healing.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: HELLO MY MISGUIDED FRIENDS!

You all use verses out of context, and mock any person without the True Christian label--most likely to try and satisfy your own bruised ego's and need to feel supreme. Is this love of power truly a feature that should be found in Christians? I don't think so.

In my time at Landover I have never seen a True Christian quote out of context. I have seen this accusation from fools many times but NEVER once have they ever been able to back it up.

Proverbs 3:35
The wise shall inherit glory: but shame shall be the promotion of fools.

YIC

Jack

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: HELLO MY MISGUIDED FRIENDS!

Anyone have any comments on things like Pastor Ezekiel and his photoshopped pictures... etc.

He's trying to trick one of us into calling brother Zeke fat. Don't fall for it, bretheren.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: HELLO MY MISGUIDED FRIENDS!

Also, since when is this a battle against homosexuals? I did not once say that I supported homosexuals.

Since when did I say that you support them?

It is a battle for God's Law. Christ's merciful law calls for gays to be executed. Do you support God's Law or not? I can use many other examples of God's law that you would call "hateful".

Should a rape victim marry her rapist as Christ's law (Deuteronomy 22:28-29) commands? Now if that's not loving your neighbour, nothing is.

[James Hutchins]

Re: HELLO MY MISGUIDED FRIENDS!

Thank you guys for telling me this. I realize homosexuality is wrong and they will burn in Hell for it!

At least that is a start. Think for a moment, if God is right about that, maybe, just mabe He is right about Everything! Praise the Glory

That was the least of my worries when posting this

. Friend, we know your worries are much greater, like will you be granted a slot in Heaven when you die.

Anyone have any comments on things like Pastor Ezekiel and his photoshopped pictures... etc.

I know for a fact, those are not photoshopped pictures. Being Pastor Ezekiel lives on a meager Pastors stipend, he does not have the latest gook camera.

If you are trying to prove something to me, at least prove something that I actually mentioned in my post!

Our Godly friends have proved just about everything to you. What else do you not understand?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: HELLO MY MISGUIDED FRIENDS!

Thank you guys for telling me this. I realize homosexuality is wrong and they will burn in Hell for it!


That was the least of my worries when posting this.

Anyone have any comments on things like Pastor Ezekiel and his photoshopped pictures... etc.


If you are trying to prove something to me, at least prove something that I actually mentioned in my post!

So why choose to cherry pick the Bible, then? Or is it just that you don't like gays because you are a bigot so you're quite happy with the bits of the Bible that hate gays but not so happy with the bits that tell women to get in the kitchen and be obedient?

[Roberta]

Re: HELLO MY MISGUIDED FRIENDS!

Show me one case of someone with down syndrome who is cured at any point in his lifetime.

Mary Baker Eddy had great success with mongolian idiots (that's what they called them during her tenure).

By thousands of well-authenticated cases of healing, she and her students have proved the worth of her teachings. These cases for the most part have been abandoned as hopeless by regular medical attendants. Few invalids will turn to God till all physical supports have failed, because there is so little faith in His disposition and power to heal disease.

http://www.marybakereddylibrary.org/mary-baker-eddy/achievements/healing

[LordIsMercy]

Re: HELLO MY MISGUIDED FRIENDS!

No - these verses tell us gays should die.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:26-32
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Even if you aren't yourself a faggot you belong with them for being such a hateful bigot and condoning them.

Thank you guys for telling me this. I realize homosexuality is wrong and they will burn in Hell for it!


That was the least of my worries when posting this.

Anyone have any comments on things like Pastor Ezekiel and his photoshopped pictures... etc.


If you are trying to prove something to me, at least prove something that I actually mentioned in my post!

[Levi Jones]

Re: HELLO MY MISGUIDED FRIENDS!

One thing is these Reverends and Pastors (especially Rev Jim, the claimed Christian who seems to really be a perverted old man) are loving their new-found power by brainwashing their followers

Friend, no one here is brainwashed. In fact, we probably turn away over 90% of people who wish to join our community.

into being racist,

We have a strict zero tolerance policy against racism.

judging,

Christianity is all about judgment.

The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible (Matthew 7:1-5)

sexist,

Have you actually read the Bible? God's Word is clear that women must know their place.

Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Exodus 20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

Matthew 18:25 But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.

1 Corinthians 7:1-2 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

1 Corinthians 11:3-10 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

1 Timothy 2:9-15 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Ephesians 5:22-24 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Colossians 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord

Titus 2:3-5 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;
That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,
To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

1 Peter 3:1-6 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.

Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

adulterous,

Where do you get that from?

Speaking of gullible, can you honestly believe things like "Down syndrome is a choice" and other ridiculous claims like this?

How can you not believe it, fellow Christian?

Does not the book of James tell us that God can heal any affliction?
James 5:14-15 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

If it doesn't work, it's your fault for not asking correctly.

James 4:3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

Down syndrome, or Trisomy 21, is a chromosomal abnormality that is either in the sperm or the egg, or made in the first division of the zygote (one cell created by the fusion of an egg and sperm). There is no will or choice involved. These cells cannot think. They cannot decide "I am lazy, Ill just have down syndrome, that will be perfect!" It is just insanity to think otherwise.

Don't bring your vain utterances of so called science here. If God can heal the gays, He can heal the tards.

You all use verses out of context, and mock any person without the True Christian label

Oh please. Show me where we ever quote the Bible out of context. False Christians, like yourself, accuse us of quoting out of context if it's a part of the Bible they happen to disagree with. We are different, though. We follow ALL of it. Not just the parts that happen to agree with our fuzzy feel good cafeteria version of Christianity.

Is this love of power truly a feature that should be found in Christians? I don't think so.

I didn't ask to become a Pastor. Jesus called me.

Ephesians 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

All I'm asking is that you all think long and hard about what being a Christian really means. If you thinking acting like you do in this forum is the way that should look, then by all means, live like that. When you eventually burn in Hell, just try not to be too suprised... it wasn't a mistake.

Weren't you complaining that we are judgmental earlier in your rant? How does it feel to be such a massive hypocrite? Pretty good or not so much?

I am going to leave you all with Galatians 5:13-14:

"For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only [use] not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."

To whom is Paul speaking in this letter? Is he writing to non-believers? Of course not, Paul is writing to the Christians at Galatia.

I'm not even going to get into Jesus saying that Loving God is more important than even loving your neighbor either. I won't even bother showing you where that saying originates in the OT.

You already know everything and you sit high in the judgment seat. Are you starting to get a nose bleed yet? Being so much better and higher than us?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: HELLO MY MISGUIDED FRIENDS!

Yes, so you are saying that that verse means you should execute gays. That makes a lot more sense, thanks for putting me straight!


Also, since when is this a battle against homosexuals? I did not once say that I supported homosexuals.

No - these verses tell us gays should die.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:26-32
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Even if you aren't yourself a faggot you belong with them for being such a hateful bigot and condoning them.

[LordIsMercy]

Re: HELLO MY MISGUIDED FRIENDS!

In addition to that being a poor, poor introduction, you insult us and then lose even more credibility by making excuses for lazy, speechless demonic mutes who fail to try in life. Just because these critters have been cursed (in your nonsense jargon, with "Trisomy 21") doesn't mean they should consent to let Satan ravage what little usefulness they can have.

If they're slow and possessed, they need to get to a Pastor immediately and be prayed over so that they can be fixed--God willing. But if an idiot can only pick up stones instead of talk or minister the gospel, they should at least be put to work building another House for God (although God doesn't want them to have any part in conducting worship - Lev. 21:17-21), but they can at least clean up the construction site.

There will be no excuses for consenting to Satan, ever.

Pastor Ed

Hahaha wow. Just wow. We'll see how it works out for you some day when you get cancer. I expect you will use nothing but prayer to get that "devil spirit" out of you. Let's see how that works for you...


But for real... like honestly? Have you passed the third grade? Show me one case of someone with down syndrome who is cured at any point in his lifetime.

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: HELLO MY MISGUIDED FRIENDS!

Speaking of gullible, can you honestly believe things like "Down syndrome is a choice" and other ridiculous claims like this? Down syndrome, or Trisomy 21, is a chromosomal abnormality that is either in the sperm or the egg, or made in the first division of the zygote (one cell created by the fusion of an egg and sperm). There is no will or choice involved. These cells cannot think. They cannot decide "I am lazy, Ill just have down syndrome, that will be perfect!" It is just insanity to think otherwise.

In addition to that being a poor, poor introduction, you insult us and then lose even more credibility by making excuses for lazy, speechless demonic mutes who fail to try in life. Just because these critters have been cursed (in your nonsense jargon, with "Trisomy 21") doesn't mean they should consent to let Satan ravage what little usefulness they can have.

If they're slow and possessed, they need to get to a Pastor immediately and be prayed over so that they can be fixed--God willing. But if an idiot can only pick up stones instead of talk or minister the gospel, they should at least be put to work building another House for God (although God doesn't want them to have any part in conducting worship - Lev. 21:17-21), but they can at least clean up the construction site.

There will be no excuses for consenting to Satan, ever.

Pastor Ed

[LordIsMercy]

Re: HELLO MY MISGUIDED FRIENDS!

YOU HYPOCRITE! You just used a verse out of context! You want us to back up every statement by copying and pasting the entire bible? What exactly is a verse that is "not out of context"?

Oh, I already know. "Not out of context" means it agrees with what YOU are saying. You believe that GOD IS YOUR YES MAN.

"all the law is fulfilled in one word" Jesus is summing up the law, saying that it is loving. Therefore we are being loving when we call for Christ's law on, for example, homosexuality.

Executing gays is not "hate". It is simply loving out neighbour as ourselves. Jesus said so in Galatians 5:13-14.

Yes, so you are saying that that verse means you should execute gays. That makes a lot more sense, thanks for putting me straight!


Also, since when is this a battle against homosexuals? I did not once say that I supported homosexuals.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: HELLO MY MISGUIDED FRIENDS!

Luke 10:29-37

Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the sthieves? 37 And he said, He that yshewed mercy on him.

Who is your nieghbour? Someone who shows mercy, someone who follows the same laws. This directly contradicts the Liberal dogma that states that "every human is your neighbour". As Jesus tells us in this parable, the majority of people are NOT our neighbours.

But if someone does not show mercy, who does not follow the same laws, they are not nieghbours.

Homos do not follow Christ's merciful law. They are not my neighbour. Thus I should "Hate with Perfect Hatred" as commanded in Psalms 139:22

Or do you believe that the Bible contradicts itself?

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: HELLO MY MISGUIDED FRIENDS!

You all use verses out of context...
I am going to leave you all with Galatians 5:13-14:

"For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only [use] not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."

YOU HYPOCRITE! You just used a verse out of context! You want us to back up every statement by copying and pasting the entire bible? What exactly is a verse that is "not out of context"?

Oh, I already know. "Not out of context" means it agrees with what YOU are saying. You believe that GOD IS YOUR YES MAN.

"all the law is fulfilled in one word" Jesus is summing up the law, saying that it is loving. Therefore we are being loving when we call for Christ's law on, for example, homosexuality.

Executing gays is not "hate". It is simply loving out neighbour as ourselves. Jesus said so in Galatians 5:13-14.