[bible_is_fiction]

Re: Hi, Prove to me god is real and I'll repent

The best evidence is the irreducibly complexity of various biological subsystems.

Like how if you take one part of a mouse trap's mechanism away you do not have a working system.

A good example is the vertebrate blood clot cascade. It cannot be explain by evolution and requires the influence of an Intelligent Designer.

Take the Designer out of the equation and you cannot have life.

Good enough for you?

ThinksDesign.

What about the appendix, if god created me, why leave the appendix in, if its just going to bust and kill me? Was he drunk that day?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Hi, Prove to me god is real and I'll repent

Hi there christian scum. If you can show me 3 pieces of evidence that your lord and savior really exists, then I will repent and surrender to Jesus. Now it has got to be hard evidence, faith is not proof. Just because you believe doesn't mean its real.

The Bible tells us that you will never understand, because you choose not to.

It makes me very sad to say this, but I do not think that there is any hope for you.

You see, God is all-knowing and all-powerful. That means He knows exactly what it would take for you to recognize that He is real.

But He has not revealed whatever that is to you.

Therefore, the only logical conclusion is that God hates you for your disbelief, and looks forward to resurrecting you at Judgment so He can cast you into His vast Lake of Fire, where He will burn you alive for all eternity, along with all the other nonbelievers, and Catholics, and Muslims, and false Christians, and Jews, and Hindus, and Buddists, and Wiccans, etc.



I'm sorry you hate and reject God. Clearly He has rejected you in response.

Would you like to at least try to understand God? If so, you should read the Bible. After all, that's really the only objective source of information we have on Him.

If you check the links in my signature, you'll see the Bible in a Year section on this very forum, where you can read along with Landover's Brother V as he goes through the Bible. There's plenty of opportunity for discussion, too! The other link is more for "Bible Beginners", and is Shirlee Babson's site where she discusses Bible stories with her Sunday School class. The kids are very inquisitive, much like you!

I sincerely hope that these resources can aid in your understanding of God and Christianity.

What about the appendix, if god created me, why leave the appendix in, if its just going to bust and kill me? Was he drunk that day?

Maybe He left it in as an easy way to quickly kill you off without harming others. A remote controlled internal destruct mechanism.

Or maybe: http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...-function-of-t

"For years, the appendix was credited with very little physiological function. We now know, however, that the appendix serves an important role in the fetus and in young adults. Endocrine cells appear in the appendix of the human fetus at around the 11th week of development. These endocrine cells of the fetal appendix have been shown to produce various biogenic amines and peptide hormones, compounds that assist with various biological control (homeostatic) mechanisms. There had been little prior evidence of this or any other role of the appendix in animal research, because the appendix does not exist in domestic mammals.



"Among adult humans, the appendix is now thought to be involved primarily in immune functions. Lymphoid tissue begins to accumulate in the appendix shortly after birth and reaches a peak between the second and third decades of life, decreasing rapidly thereafter and practically disappearing after the age of 60. During the early years of development, however, the appendix has been shown to function as a lymphoid organ, assisting with the maturation of B lymphocytes (one variety of white blood cell) and in the production of the class of antibodies known as immunoglobulin A (IgA) antibodies. Researchers have also shown that the appendix is involved in the production of molecules that help to direct the movement of lymphocytes to various other locations in the body.

It really is a shame when you atheists pretend to worship evidence and science, but can't be bothered to spend 5 seconds Googling something before making asses of yourselves. That article is from 1999.

[bible_is_fiction]

Re: Hi, Prove to me god is real and I'll repent

I'm sorry you hate and reject God. Clearly He has rejected you in response.

I never said I hate him. You all seem to become quite hostile when asked for proof of your god. Why the hostility, why not just give infallible evidence that he is real, every bit of proof you lot have given me can be debunked

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: Hi, Prove to me god is real and I'll repent

I never said I hate him. You all seem to become quite hostile when asked for proof of your god. Why the hostility, why not just give infallible evidence that he is real, every bit of proof you lot have given me can be debunked

Why should we be nice to you? You called us scum in your first post!

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Hi, Prove to me god is real and I'll repent

Hi there christian scum. If you can show me 3 pieces of evidence that your lord and savior really exists, then I will repent and surrender to Jesus. Now it has got to be hard evidence, faith is not proof. Just because you believe doesn't mean its real.

Read my signature, I have a few. I really can't be bothered to spoon feed them to you since I am not your mother.

You really a rather stupid, irrelevant question since as Christians we are primary concerned about Christ's teaching on how to live our lives. Your' entire argument is clearly leading to if God doesn't exist then you can stop behaving like a moral person.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Hi, Prove to me god is real and I'll repent

I never said I hate him. You all seem to become quite hostile when asked for proof of your god. Why the hostility, why not just give infallible evidence that he is real, every bit of proof you lot have given me can be debunked

Why the hostility? Your greeting to us was "Hi there Christian scum."

Why don't you go to your Mommy's church and introduce yourself in the same manner, and see what response you get?

Oh, right. Because you're a pathetic little coward hiding in your Mommy's basement, secure in your mistaken belief that nobody at this end can trace your IP address, see your email address, or figure out who you are.

The Department of Faith knows, little boy. So get over your little attitude.

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: Hi, Prove to me god is real and I'll repent

Hi there christian scum. If you can show me 3 pieces of evidence that your lord and savior really exists, then I will repent and surrender to Jesus. Now it has got to be hard evidence, faith is not proof. Just because you believe doesn't mean its real.

Just a friendly reminder to an unfriendly atheist that this is an INTRODUCTION FORUM. Tell us about yourself and avoid the urge to fight Satan's war for him.

But while we're waiting for you to tell us more, I will give you not three, but ten pieces of evidence you ask for (I could give you no less than 1,210,500,000, but my time is limited)...

1) The smile of a child.

2) A flower and birds tweeting on a sunny day.

3) The fact that laws exist. If God did not exist, people would go around killing one another and anally raping the corpses without consequences and life would fall into chaos and cease to be. But there are laws to prevent people from sodomizing and killing one another and sticking leaves in each other's burnt orifices because life continues, obviously. Therefore, God exists.

4) Something cannot come from nothing. And yet we exist. Therefore, God exists. Amen!

5) God made the riverbeds just big enough for the rivers.

6) Every foot measures exactly 12 inches. If God did not exist, 2 x 2 would be more than 4 because everything would be chaos.

7) If God did not exist, evolution would be true and there would be Crocaducks. But there are none. Therefore, God exists.

8) Every watch has a watchmaker. The world and our bodies are much more complex than clocks, and so much have an even more complex designer. That designer is God.

9) All things in the universe agree as one and have a relationship sustainably interworking with each other, otherwise they would not exist. God is one. Therefore, God had to have made the universe to work together, and therefore, exists.

10) The Bible. It changes lives, but sinners hearing cold, lifeless lectures are not changed by the things men say. Therefore, the Bible must be from God - the opposite of man - which demands God's existence, obviously.

The existence of God is so easily proven!

Pastor Ed

[Thinks Design]

Re: Hi, Prove to me god is real and I'll repent

What about the appendix, if god created me, why leave the appendix in, if its just going to bust and kill me? Was he drunk that day?

Wait, wait!

You asked for evidence I gave you evidence. Don't move on the another point before this one is settled.

And for reference the vermiform appendix has an immuno active purpose and stores some bacterior to aid digestion of cellulose.

Your turn.

ThinksDesign

[James Hutchins]

Re: Hi, Prove to me god is real and I'll repent

I never said I hate him. You all seem to become quite hostile when asked for proof of your god. Why the hostility, why not just give infallible evidence that he is real, every bit of proof you lot have given me can be debunked

Friend, all the proof you need is all around you. Whe you have an accident, you ruin things. Accordingly, the Earth and all the living things cannot be accidental or we'd all have hands sticking out our heads.

I am glad you admit you do not Hate God. That is a step in the right direction.

Why do you think the Bible is fiction? Have you ever noticed, the Bible is not in the 'Fiction' secton of the library?

There is hope for you, I will pray.

[bible_is_fiction]

Re: Hi, Prove to me god is real and I'll repent

Why should we be nice to you? You called us scum in your first post!

wow I thought you people were meant to be able to turn the other cheek and ignore shit like that. Maybe your just as messed up as the rest of the human race, you can't even follow your own teaching, I'm the one who is sorry for you, you live an empty life because everything fun is a sin, and then you die, and don't go to heaven, I've been on a plane, there is nothing in the sky but clouds.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Hi, Prove to me god is real and I'll repent

wow I thought you people were meant to be able to turn the other cheek

Too bad you have no idea what that means.

I'll even quote Wikipedia, the atheist's favorite source of knowledge:

A literal interpretation of the passages, in which the command refers specifically to a manual strike against the side of a person's face, can be supported by reference to historical and other factors.[2] At the time of Jesus, striking someone deemed to be of a lower class with the back of the hand was used to assert authority and dominance.[3] If the persecuted person "turned the other cheek," the discipliner was faced with a dilemma. The left hand was used for unclean purposes, so a back-hand strike on the opposite cheek would not be performed.[4] The other alternative would be a slap with the open hand as a challenge or to punch the person, but this was seen as a statement of equality. Thus, by turning the other cheek the persecuted was in effect demanding equality.

Thus, turning the other cheek is similar in effect to this gesture which, surprisingly enough, was common even in Jesus' time!

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: Hi, Prove to me god is real and I'll repent

wow I thought you people were meant to be able to turn the other cheek and ignore shit like that. Maybe your just as messed up as the rest of the human race, you can't even follow your own teaching, I'm the one who is sorry for you, you live an empty life because everything fun is a sin, and then you die, and don't go to heaven, I've been on a plane, there is nothing in the sky but clouds.

Look, you came in here being a rude little shit and then you asked US why WE were being hostile. Um, DUH!

Let me nutshell this for you dimwit. We're God's chosen people, we're True Christians(tm). We're going to Heaven when Jesus kills us, you're going to Hell. I don't care if you believe in God, I just don't.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Hi, Prove to me god is real and I'll repent

wow I thought you people were meant to be able to turn the other cheek and ignore shit like that...

Do you even know what "turning the other cheek" meant back then? Hint: It's not what Pastor Feelgood told you.

... Maybe your just as messed up as the rest of the human race, you can't even follow your own teaching,...

Let's see, you probably believe in freedom of religion, am I right?

Oh, except when they say something you don't like...

... I'm the one who is sorry for you, you live an empty life because everything fun is a sin, and then you die, and don't go to heaven,...

Prove it, or STFU.

... I've been on a plane, there is nothing in the sky but clouds.

You didn't see God, therefore He doesn't exist. Logic fail.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Hi, Prove to me god is real and I'll repent

wow I thought you people were meant to be able to turn the other cheek and ignore shit like that. Maybe your just as messed up as the rest of the human race, you can't even follow your own teaching, I'm the one who is sorry for you, you live an empty life because everything fun is a sin, and then you die, and don't go to heaven, I've been on a plane, there is nothing in the sky but clouds.

Friend, I have been nothing but kind, understanding and forgiving of your trespasses.
I answered your questions with irrefutable proof. But I'll answer one more of your questions. As you flew in the plane (I'll assume you have to fly commercial) you were in the clouds. Above the clouds is the upper firmament. Think of it what is above the Dallas SkyDome(c). God resides there in Heaven.
I am also sure you have never seen the ends of the Earth too, nor have you seen a lot of wonders, like a Chinese factory. But we all know they are there. Just like you. I have never seen, heard or have an actual evidence of your existence yet I know you are there.

[Roberta]

Re: Hi, Prove to me god is real and I'll repent

Wait, wait!

You asked for evidence I gave you evidence. Don't move on the another point before this one is settled.

And for reference the vermiform appendix has an immuno active purpose and stores some bacterior to aid digestion of cellulose.

Your turn.

ThinksDesign

Every once in a while God makes a mistake, Stinky.