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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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  • Faith_Machine
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    Avemaria, please answer my question about the manner in which every single pedophile priest should be executed.

    I'm really rooting for burning at the stake, but if you can cite scripture that makes a strong case for stoning or drowning, I'm definitely open to your point of view on the matter.

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  • Rev. M. Rodimer
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    Originally posted by avemaria View Post
    All I can do is pray for them and defend what I believe.
    You don't even know what you believe.

    One moment you're saying "no abortion ever," which is what the Catholic church says, and the next you're saying that "oh, we can't let people die from ectopic pregancies!"

    You claim the Catholic church "loves all of God's creation". How do they show that love to women with ectopic pregnancies?

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  • Didymus Much
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    Originally posted by avemaria View Post
    ...Its a comfort to know that there is someone who is not a Christian see my reasoning...
    Why don't you tell him he's going to burn in Hell, because that's what you believe? Are you more concerned with hurting his feelings, than the fate of his eternal soul? Where's the love in that???

    ...in the practice of hats. They are just going to close their ware...
    Anyone know WTF she's on about now?

    ...All I can do is pray for them...
    Oh, yeah, you go pray to IsisMary for everyone here. I'll go yell at a rock while thinking of you. Check back next week and we'll compare notes, k?

    Originally posted by dylan mcmullen View Post
    That's the way to go
    Dur, WAHT? You're no atheist.

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  • dylan mcmullen
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    Originally posted by avemaria View Post
    All I can do is pray for them and defend what I believe.
    That's the way to go

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  • avemaria
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    Thank you Dylan. Its a comfort to know that there is someone who is not a Christian see my reasoning. Its pointless to argue on here there's too many who have been well taught in the practice of hats. They are just going to close their ware. All I can do is pray for them and defend what I believe.

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  • Didymus Much
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    Originally posted by dylan mcmullen View Post
    Why the hell are you arguing for these people then?
    Where have I done that? Don't confuse agreeing with them about what the Bible says (it's in black and white, after all) with arguing for them.

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  • Rev. M. Rodimer
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    Originally posted by dylan mcmullen View Post
    Why the hell are you arguing for these people then?
    He's not. He's arguing that you can't be a Christian if you don't understand and obey God's Commands.

    And he's right. It's the one thing* he and we agree upon.

    You see, sin is disobeying God. If you don't know His Commands, you can't obey them . . . and ignorance of the law is no excuse.

    *Ok, two things . . . We both have a strong dislike for Britney Spears.

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  • dylan mcmullen
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    Originally posted by Didymus Much View Post
    Uh? I'm atheist, dude. Check out the "awards" (beside my name) the mods here have "blessed" me with.
    Why the hell are you arguing for these people then?

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  • Didymus Much
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    Originally posted by dylan mcmullen View Post
    ...I don't believe that there is any proof to say that there is a god or not...
    Guess what? Everyone here agrees with you on that!

    If there was proof, then we'd have knowledge. If you have knowledge, there's no place for faith (which is belief without proof).

    faith   [feyth] Show IPA
    noun
    1. confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
    2. belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
    3. belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
    4. belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
    5. a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/faith
    I bolded the pertinent bit.

    ...That's probably in the KJV bible...
    It's in EVERY Bible.

    ...It's not true...
    Prove it, or withdraw your claim.

    ...God loves all of his creations according to every Christian (this includes Catholics) religion...
    That just shows how few "Christians" have actually read the Bible, or have any clue of the tenets of the faith they espouse. They're just happy to sit in the pews, eating the lies of Pastor Feelgood who's more concerned with the contents of the collection plate than the fate of their eternal souls. Imagine how many of those people would keep showing up every Sunday (and giving him money) if they realized that God wants rape victims to marry their rapists. See Deuteronomy 22:28-29.

    ...except for yours.
    Uh? I'm atheist, dude. Check out the "awards" (beside my name) the mods here have "blessed" me with.

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  • dylan mcmullen
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    Originally posted by Didymus Much View Post
    I doubt that. Do you live your life as if God is real? If so, you believe in God but are too afraid of picking the "wrong" religion. If not, you're an atheist who thinks they can fool God by pretending to not hate Him. Either way, you're condemned.

    Why not just admit you're an atheist, give up on the ridiculous superstition, and live your life free of the constraints and hatred inherent in religion?

    Well, as the Bible describes Christ's first action on His return as killing a third of humanity, and Revelation tells us that God will condemn the vast majority of mankind to eternal torture in a lake of fire, where do you get the idea that God isn't a God of hatredrighteousness?

    God loves those that love Him. Anyone else, not so much.
    I'm an atheistic agnostic. I don't believe that there is any proof to say that there is a god or not. I'm not pretending anything.

    What superstition? Do you mean the facts of science? That's no superstition.

    That's probably in the KJV bible. It's not true.

    God loves all of his creations according to every Christian (this includes Catholics) religion except for yours.

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  • Didymus Much
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    Originally posted by dylan mcmullen View Post
    It's nice to see another voice of reason on here...
    Thank you. Oh, wait, you're talking about the Catholic. Meh.

    ... Though I'm agnostic...
    I doubt that. Do you live your life as if God is real? If so, you believe in God but are too afraid of picking the "wrong" religion. If not, you're an atheist who thinks they can fool God by pretending to not hate Him. Either way, you're condemned.

    Why not just admit you're an atheist, give up on the ridiculous superstition, and live your life free of the constraints and hatred inherent in religion?

    ...I respect your religion...
    Oh, you mean the religion that brought us such wonderful things as the Crusades, the Inquisition, and the Dark Ages? Yeah, they're the "voices of reason".

    ...(I hate how people on here believe that God is a God of hatred)
    Well, as the Bible describes Christ's first action on His return as killing a third of humanity, and Revelation tells us that God will condemn the vast majority of mankind to eternal torture in a lake of fire, where do you get the idea that God isn't a God of hatredrighteousness?

    God loves those that love Him. Anyone else, not so much.

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  • dylan mcmullen
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    It's nice to see another voice of reason on here. Though I'm agnostic, I respect your religion (I hate how people on here believe that God is a God of hatred)

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  • Faith_Machine
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    Avemaria, I'm relieved to hear that you agree with us that rape is almost always wrong.

    I'm wondering if you could help me out with something, though.

    See, when I read the Bible, I find that the punishment for a man who rapes a woman is that he must pay her father fifty shekels and marry her.

    Fair enough, but I can't find any specific punishment listed for men who rape little boys. The closest I can come up with is the punishment for men who have sex with other men, which is death:

    Leviticus 20:13

    13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

    So surely, Avemaria, you would agree with me that any priest caught molesting little boys should be executed, right?

    And this should definitely apply to all priests, past, present, and future, who molest little boys, yes? That is to say, just because a priest was found guilty and served some time in jail, that doesn't mean it's over and done with. Even if he's served his time and been released, he should still die, wouldn't you agree?

    Assuming your answer is yes, what do you think the manner or execution should be? Please use scripture to support your conclusions.

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  • Pastor Isaac Peters
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    Originally posted by avemaria View Post
    How? Please explain to me. And have you read the Catholic Catechism or the apocrypha of our Bible. Maybe if you did you can prove how wrong I am and when I contradict myself.
    Yes, I have. You'll find that many of us were Catholics until we found the real Jesus. Now please explain in your own words what the Catholic doctrine of original sin is, what Scriptural support your church says it enjoys, and what your church fathers and councils have said over the centuries about the eternal fate of unbaptized babies.

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