Short Introduction

[Born Again Bob]

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Dear Friend,

I also care about truth, how do I know its true without finding out?

Surely you can do a better job of phrasing this question. Even crippled, as you seem to be, with a public school education.

How about we discuss this:

RESOLVED: Those who base their actions on observation of the physical world have a better grounds for believing their actions correct than those who base their actions on the Bible.

You take the affirmative, I take the negative. Agreed? If so, you first.

Yours in Him,
BAB

[Progress]

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I'm just here to tell you that I think the bible and everything it represents is egregious unsound absurd asinine preposterous confused contradictory disjointed inchoate muddled fatuous irrational idiotic humorous false phony mistaken fallacious inadequate invalid deceptive unintelligible unbelievable unconvincing unscientific unreasonable incorrect implausible illogical silly irrelevant nutty and ultimately meaningless, if you can show me a reason to think otherwise, then I'll stop thinking that, I want to live my life the right way but I also care about truth, how do I know its true without finding out?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I've learned a lot since grade school. I did the research myself and no answers are forth coming, now I believe that anyones beliefs can be challanged, and when you cant back them up with a reasonable, logical, realistic evidence proof and justification. All I was doing was giving an outline of what started me on the path for who I am today. If you want to know more about why I'm an athiest why dont you ask me?

We aren't interested in hearing the story of why you rejected Christ's Love and began to live the immoral life of an atheist. This is a Christian forum. Unsaved NOT welcome.

If you'd like to find out more about Landover Baptist Church, please read THIS thread created especially for new posters.

If you have a question, use the "search" function before posting it. Most likely it is being discussed somewhere on this Godly forum. Please don't waste God's precious bandwidth.

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[Mary Etheldreda]

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If you want to know more about why I'm an athiest why dont you ask me?

I'm confused. If someone wanted to know why people hate and reject our Beloved Redeemer, wouldn't they go to one of a number of heathen God-mocking forum? If someone wanted to worship the LORD, glorify His Name, and share the beauty and majesty that is the Holy Bible, wouldn't they go to a church forum?

[Born Again Bob]

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Dear Friend,

If you want to know more about why I'm an athiest why dont you ask me?

Some questions answer themselves, don't they?

now I believe that anyones beliefs can be challanged, and when you cant back them up with a reasonable, logical, realistic evidence proof and justification

Prove that. Show me a proof. Prove to me -- with evidence -- the proposition that the only propositions worthy of being deemed true are those for which evidence is or might be available.

You might Google "logical positivism" before digging in. The greatest minds in Western philosophy spent decades of furious efforts trying to restrict the world of creditable assertions to what evidence could back up. They failed. If you haven't, call Stockholm to pick up your Nobel prize.

Yours in Him,
BAB

[Progress]

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I've learned a lot since grade school. I did the research myself and no answers are forth coming, now I believe that anyones beliefs can be challanged, and when you cant back them up with a reasonable, logical, realistic evidence proof and justification. All I was doing was giving an outline of what started me on the path for who I am today. If you want to know more about why I'm an athiest why dont you ask me?

[Born Again Bob]

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Dear Friend,

I personally have millions of beliefs, for example I believe that I am a human being, that I live in the state of Wisconsin which is part of the United States on the planet Earth which is in the Milky Way galaxy and well you get the picture.

That's some exciting stuff. I look forward to you proving each of these propositions.

I was around 11, I asked my Pastor a question during our youth group, and he didnt have an answer, everyone thought it was a stupid question, why would I question god? Thats when I realized I didnt believe in god, how could I believe that it was true when even my Pastor didnt have an answer?

I had a similar experience. When I was in grade school I asked my science teacher why the sky was blue. When she didn't know the answer off the cuff, I knew then and there that so-called science was bunk.

I'm glad to meet someone else who has learned nothing since grade school! (Although there are more of us about then you'd think).

Yours in Him,
BAB

[Progress]

Athiest. Yep, lets get it out of the way, thats what I am. Now before you grab your pitchforks and try to run me off the forum why dont you listen to someone elses opinion for once, and I'll be willing to hear and think about the way you interprit reality. I thank you in advance for your consideration.

The first thing I usually hear from Christians or people who are religious is: "Oh, your an athiest, so you practice athiesm? Doesn't that mean you dont believe in anything?" And my answer is always no. I dont know where that ignorant stereotype came from but it isn't true at all. I personally have millions of beliefs, for example I believe that I am a human being, that I live in the state of Wisconsin which is part of the United States on the planet Earth which is in the Milky Way galaxy and well you get the picture.

When I say that I am an athiest the only thing that you can really know about me from that simple fact is that when someone asks me if I believe that a "god" exists I say no. It doesnt tell you how I feel about the goverment, it doesnt tell you how I feel about law or education systems. All it tells you is I dont believe in god. Unlike what religion does and Christianity specifically tells you what the rules and morales are about sex, what the rules and morales are about living, what the rules and morales are about marriage. You live by a strict set of rules and I do not. I decide what is right and wrong. And I decided to join this forum to present my opinion and fight for my beliefs, just like you do.

When I was growing up I believed in god. I had no doubt in my mind that he existed because I didnt know any alternative, and was told that it was true and never thought to question the things I was being told. Around when I was 6 I heard the story of Noah and the Ark. My first thought about that was, how did he get so many animals on the boat? I didnt ask, I just thought it to myself, but that was the first time I questioned what I was told about the bible. The question really bothered me because I knew that their were all kinds of animals all around the world, I saw them at the zoo, how could one person possibly get animals from all around the world to be alive on the boat for 40 days and 40 nights without them eating each other? But I never asked, not until I was around 11, I asked my Pastor a question during our youth group, and he didnt have an answer, everyone thought it was a stupid question, why would I question god?

Thats when I realized I didnt believe in god, how could I believe that it was true when even my Pastor didnt have an answer? I was just being spoon fed lines from the bible and being told not to question them, that they were the absolute truth. But I still felt like god must exist, and I was afraid of hell. I believed all the way up until I was 16, I read the bible, begining to end, and that is what made me an Athiest, how could anyone believe the awful things, the unbelievable events, the outright stupidity presented in the bible? Now I ask others why they believe what they believe and it always comes down to faith, and why is faith a good thing?