Re: New Member of Muslim Faith
We know that Abram was a Godly man.
One part of that exceeding great reward was LAND (sure, it was occupied by some [10] trollopy nations Genesis 15:18-21 but that was no problem because God loved Abram) and the other part was SONS to live in it. Abram's wife was so excited by the news that she gave her Husband a present:

an extra wife
who turned out to be a trollop too, but God had made a promise and trollop or not her son would also found a nation.
So we know that Ishmael founded a nation.
But many of the Abrahamites have gone astray. God's punishment for that is appropriate of course and on-going but when we see the carnage wrought by these wretches one upon another are we seeing part of God's Just Response to apostacy?
Or is it just because we're seeing a bunch of idolatrous fools who had never known Him before they were led so far awry?
We know that Abram was a Godly man.
Genesis 15:1 After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.
KJV . look up
KJV . look up
One part of that exceeding great reward was LAND (sure, it was occupied by some [10] trollopy nations Genesis 15:18-21 but that was no problem because God loved Abram) and the other part was SONS to live in it. Abram's wife was so excited by the news that she gave her Husband a present:

an extra wife
who turned out to be a trollop too, but God had made a promise and trollop or not her son would also found a nation.
Very much a C minus sort of affair but a nation even so.
GENESIS 16
3 - 4 And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife. And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived: and when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress was despised in her eyes..
6b - 7a And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled from her face. And the angel of the LORD found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness..
9 - 10 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands. And the angel of the LORD said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude.
11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
KJV . look up
3 - 4 And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife. And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived: and when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress was despised in her eyes..
6b - 7a And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled from her face. And the angel of the LORD found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness..
9 - 10 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands. And the angel of the LORD said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude.
11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
KJV . look up
So we know that Ishmael founded a nation.
But many of the Abrahamites have gone astray. God's punishment for that is appropriate of course and on-going but when we see the carnage wrought by these wretches one upon another are we seeing part of God's Just Response to apostacy?
Or is it just because we're seeing a bunch of idolatrous fools who had never known Him before they were led so far awry?
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