[VictoryOS]

Re: Expanding the Mind

Look lady, God is not a pie. I don't know what kind of hippie drugs you've been smoking, but God is not on the dessert menu!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Expanding the Mind

For Rev. M. Rodimer: Hmm, let me explain. I believe in the energies of the earth: the sunrise, the sweet bird song, blooming flowers, the whispering winds, a baby's sigh, laughter, love, friendship. Are these things not real? I have faith in what I believe in just as you have faith that God is real.

This makes no sense whatsoever.

You listed a number of very real things; then you said you 'have faith' in them.

If you have knowledge, you cannot have faith. As it is written in Hebrews 11:1, faith is the evidence of things not seen.

I don't have to have faith that ice is cold; I KNOW ice is cold.

Your faith is real and that makes God real. My faith is real too. Does that not make what I believe in real?

God is objectively real; He exists whether I believe in Him or not.

Ice, likewise, is objectively cold. You can believe ice is hot all you like, but if you shove your hand in a bucket of it for an hour, you will still get frostbite, not third-degree burns. Your 'faith' that ice is hot will not change objective reality.

If no one believed in God, then he wouldn't be real right? Like the Greek gods.
They were real until people stopped believing in them.

If they were real at one point, and possessed powers to act in the physical world, why would people stop believing in them? That makes no sense.

Think of it this way: if your god represents everything, then all the other gods out there are just other names for a small part of him. All of them are real because they are all a little part of one big thing. Like if your god was a pie, my god would be just a small slice, but still apart of the same pie. Do you understand what I'm saying? I just choose to worship a small part that I connect with the most.

Yes, you're saying that you're a pantheist, and you think that the entire universe is an expression of Brahman. You're a Hindu who doesn't know it.

And you have decided you only like Brahman's little finger, so you worship that and ignore his body.

Why?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Expanding the Mind

Lock and load, boys! Witch Hunting Season is just days away!

[TheWiccanWhore]

Re: Expanding the Mind

Pastor Ezekiel: Thank you for your words, your infraction and I'm sure the rude things you've probably added to my profile. I will take that to heart when reflecting on the love and light you're trying to spread in the name of you're god. If you have murder in your heart, then I'm not the one who has to answer to that.
Rev. M. Rodimer: when I say that my faith lies with those things, I mean that that's what I worship. I worship the beauty of the earth and all it has to offer. No, I'm not Hindu. I follow other wiccan teachings. But anyways, I never meant for this to get into my religion. I want to know about yours. What makes your branch of the church unique? What drew you to it? I don't want you to care about my religion. I want you to understand but that's not going to happen. So it doesn't matter. I know you care about your religion and that's all I care about.

[TheWiccanWhore]

Re: Expanding the Mind

And it doesn't matter if I love everyone including the evil people. God loves everyone and is forgiving right? Then why can't I be like him? Wouldn't you be happy that I'm trying to be like him? Why should I be put so low when people openly show me hate when I've been trying to learn and find peace among you? You don't even know me and already I'm being called a whore. Wouldn't god frown apon that? Wouldn't he want you to help me find his light? Wouldn't he want you to me how wonderful this religion is by showing me tolerance and teaching me his ways?

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Expanding the Mind

If you truly want to know what we believe, read the Bible. Start at Genesis 1:1 and end at Revelation 22:21.

SKIP NOTHING.

We follow every single word of the Bible TO THE LETTER. We don't skip the parts that seem out of sync with modern secular perversity, and we don't concentrate on the parts that are "sweet."

It won't take you long to read it: I've read it straight through about 11 times, and the longest it took me was around 7 weeks.

Come back when you're done.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Expanding the Mind

And it doesn't matter if I love everyone including the evil people. God loves everyone and is forgiving right? Then why can't I be like him? Wouldn't you be happy that I'm trying to be like him? Why should I be put so low when people openly show me hate when I've been trying to learn and find peace among you? You don't even know me and already I'm being called a whore. Wouldn't god frown apon that? Wouldn't he want you to help me find his light? Wouldn't he want you to me how wonderful this religion is by showing me tolerance and teaching me his ways?

God certainly does not love everyone, missy!

What ever gave you that idea? I hate it when idiots mischaracterise the Holy Lord.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Expanding the Mind

God loves everyone and is forgiving right?

No. Everyone who does not follow His every word will burn in hell.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

[Yea-tho-we-walk]

Re: Expanding the Mind

Hello Wiccan, let's "test the spirits" here and see if you any clout in the miracle department. Me and the wife will be celebrating our twenty-fifth anniversary soon and plan on a trip to a honeymoon style retreat. Please check your cauldron to see if you can conjure up something better than Viagra, as I've been experiencing some non patriotic issues as far as raising my flag to full staff. I normally just pray to Jesus for anything I need, but I feel Jesus doesn't like to do His miracles in 'icky' body places.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Expanding the Mind

Rev. M. Rodimer: when I say that my faith lies with those things, I mean that that's what I worship. I worship the beauty of the earth and all it has to offer. No, I'm not Hindu.

I'm pretty sure you're a Hindu who doesn't know it yet.

What you described, everything being an expression of the universe, is the basis of Hinduism. They just call the universe "Brahman".

I don't want you to care about my religion.

Of course we care about your religion! Choosing a false religion based on "what feels good" will only lead you to unending torment in God's Lake of Fire!

[NOTBornAgainBert]

Re: Expanding the Mind

Look lady, I'm new to this site. But the advice you need is not so complicated that it requires an expert. READ THE BIBLE! The Bible is the truth! All other religions are false, including Wicca, because they contradict with the Bible! You can't expand your mind when the truth is denied. Stop having faith in nature and grow your faith in He who has created nature.

And don't tell us what God would think of our actions when you're the Wiccan. God knows that the path to salvation should be filled with hateful personal attacks and intolerance to properly do the job.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Expanding the Mind

blah blah blah

When Brother Faith Machine directed you to the Introduction Forum, it was to provide your own introduction following the idiot-proof instructions at the top of the page.

How did you manage to go so far astray in such a short time?

[Didymus Much]

Re: Expanding the Mind

...don't tell us what God would think of our actions when you're the Wiccan...

She's not the Wiccan, she's a Wiccan. There's a lot more than one, unfortunately.

[Charlotte Sometimes]

Re: Expanding the Mind

TheWiccanWoman, I congratulate your individual thinking. I don't agree with your views...

***Shameless Flirtations Removed***

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Expanding the Mind

TheWiccanWoman, I congratulate your individual thinking. I don't agree with your views, but I know you're not evil. I know some members of the forum make God out to be hateful and demeaning, but he really does love you, even if you don't love and trust Him back.

Charlotte, just what kind of drivel are they teaching you at that church of yours? Is it a Catholic church or something?

You think God loves sinners and nonbelievers? How can this be?

God will resurrect these people (all sinners and all non-Christians) from unknowing death (see Ecclesiastes 9:5) into immortal bodies at Judgment, specifically so He can burn them alive for all time in His Lake of Fire (see Revelation, chapters 20-22). No second chance, just resurrection to unending torment.

Does that sound like "love" to you? If He loved them, why not just leave them dead? He's God, He's not bound to resurrect them. He will choose to do so.

Have you actually read the Bible yet, Charlotte? This is all very disconcerting.