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  • #1

    Newb here

    Hello, I have recently stumbled upon this site and have decided that it would be great for the mind and soul to engage in a little bit of religious discussion (it won't hurt to brush up on some scripture either).

    My true name is Mark Cooper (I thought the username flowed well). I am a white male living in Lancaster PA and I go to the Lancaster Baptist Church, not surprisingly.

    Some of my hobbies are fishing, hunting, and attending political rallies for grass-roots movements.

    I have many bible quotes that I soulfully admire, but I like a quote from Deuteronomy 20:10-14 most : "You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that The Lord your God has given you."
    To me, it symbolizes the attaining of wealth through showing others the true path of God. Whether tangible or spiritual wealth, it matters not.

    Thank you
    Ecclesiastes 4:5 The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his own flesh.
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  • #2
    Re: Newb here

    Welcome to God's favorite forum, BaB. How old are you? How many future soldiers for Christ has your wife produced for you?

    If you'd like to find out more about Landover Baptist Church, please read THIS thread created especially for new posters.

    If you have a question, use the "search" function before posting it. Most likely it is being discussed somewhere on this Godly forum. Please don't waste God's precious bandwidth.

    You will keep a respectful tongue in your head whenever addressing your betters, which includes all True Christians™. Failure to do so, or any attempt at inciting debate or mockery of God's Divine Plan, can and will result in the suspension of your posting privileges.

    Your rights on this forum are listed HERE. If you feel that any of these rights have been violated, please don't hesitate to contact a Pastor at once.
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

    Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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    • #3
      Re: Newb here

      I'm 25 years old, and I have one son who is 7 months old.
      Ecclesiastes 4:5 The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his own flesh.

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      • #4
        Re: Newb here

        Am I now allowed to post in other threads?
        Ecclesiastes 4:5 The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his own flesh.

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        • #5
          Re: Newb here

          You claim to be referencing Deuteronomy 20:10-14, but you only quote Deuteronomy 20:14, and even then you cut off a large part of it.

          Here it is without editing:

          (Deuteronomy 20:14) "But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee."

          So tell me: what is it about that verse that makes you yearn for Jesus' sweet, sweet embrace?

          Yours in Christ,

          Z. Smyth
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          • #6
            Re: Newb here

            My apologies on that, I was going to include the offering of peace as well, but I narrowed it down and forgot to correct myself. And this is my favorite quote from the verse. I do not wish to debate, especially not regarding my choosing of a specific quote.
            Ecclesiastes 4:5 The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his own flesh.

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            • #7
              Re: Newb here

              My apologies, didn't see your true question there. This quote allows me to realize the spiritual reward for showing others the truth. It means a lot to my life as I have spent much of my time attempting to spread the word to all in my community, and it has been very rewarding for me.
              Ecclesiastes 4:5 The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his own flesh.

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              • #8
                Re: Newb here

                No worries, friend. It was a good verse.

                If you ever run across websites and you find verses that inspire you, I would make sure to cross reference them in http://www.biblegateway.com/versions...ion-KJV-Bible/ to make sure they are quoting it accurately.

                It's also the best way I have found to get yourself up to speed on God's Word.

                You should also open the chapter instead of the specific verse. That way you get a look at the verses before and after it. It helps with context and deeper understanding of The Authorized Version.
                Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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                • #9
                  Re: Newb here

                  I truly apologize for any ambiguity. I assure you my motives are pure, and I will note that the New Living Translation is not to be quoted. And I apologize for my misquote as well. The misquote was mine, not that of a website of such a name, a site that no sane man would rely on for a translation. To accuse me of this site for my translation is to accuse me of believing that a God-hating site would know His word best, and while I do not claim to be an expert on the scripture, I do not lack common sense. I misquoted it because I understand the meaning of the quote without having every single word committed to memory (many other translations I have read use spoils as well). Spoils and plunder mean the same thing, generally, so I must have confused the two when calling upon my memory of the quote, as I have read more than one translation. However, I wish not to argue semantics and hope to delve into actual religious discussion rather than accusatory remarks limited to this thread.
                  Ecclesiastes 4:5 The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his own flesh.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Newb here

                    It seems a post was deleted. Ignore my last post as I attempt to do the same
                    Ecclesiastes 4:5 The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his own flesh.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Newb here

                      Originally posted by BornAgainBert View Post
                      My apologies, didn't see your true question there. This quote allows me to realize the spiritual reward for showing others the truth.
                      I don't understand. Deuteronomy 20 is not about "showing others the word".

                      It's about how to properly commit genocide. Killing off all the males of the entire civilization conquered, then taking all the females for our own uses. Making wives and slaves and concubines out of them, that is.

                      There's nothing about offering them a chance to convert. They just get the opportunity to become tributaries (subjects of) us.

                      You seem to have skipped right over Deuteronomy 20:13, what happens if they refuse to serve us.

                      13 And when the Lord thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:

                      Not a peep about the joys of sharing the Gospel, friend.
                      Bible boring? Nonsense!
                      Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
                      You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Newb here

                        Bert, any comments we make about using the KJV, or being careful to not omit anything are done with the best intentions, I promise you. It is my goal to get as many people as I can to read the Bible, the WHOLE Bible, because people leaving parts out here and there is what has lead to the craziness we have these days.

                        For instance, a lot of "christians" come to this site and announce that John 3:16 is their favorite verse. Hey, I like it too! But what they remember about John 3:16 and what it says can be two very different things.

                        People usually boil it down to: "God sent His Son to die for our sins!" and while that is technically true, let's take a look at the whole verse:

                        (John 3:16) "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

                        What are the implications there? As I tell people, that excludes jews and muslims and buddhists and etc. etc.

                        They are going to Hell. Seriously. Because they don't believe in Jesus. It's as simple as that. I don't want them to go to Hell, so I ask them to give up their heathen ways and accept Jesus in to their lives.

                        Sure, they whine and moan that I am "interpreting" Scripture, but as Brother Levi says above, read the verses around it. Check out the next two after John 3:16:

                        (John 3:17-18) "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

                        That makes His intentions a little more clear, hmm?

                        And that's why we stress reading the WHOLE Bible and not just the parts that so-called "preachers" point out to you.

                        Yours in Christ,

                        Z. Smyth
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                        • #13
                          Re: Newb here

                          Alright I realize I've made a mistake with my quote, but my true purpose here is to engage in constructive religious discussion. My pastor informed me of this quote recently and his interpretation of it so I looked it up to further examine different translations. I should've looked at the context as well as looked up a quote again before relying solely on memory. Part of my purpose here is to become a more devoted and intelligent Christian, which I feel I have not fulfilled yet. Can we please get off this topic and my mistake so I can focus on the other benefits of a community like this? My opportunity to discuss religioun with experts is upon me and I would like to take advantage of it in hopes of becoming a better Christian. Thank you.
                          Ecclesiastes 4:5 The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his own flesh.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Newb here

                            Originally posted by BornAgainBert View Post
                            Alright I realize I've made a mistake with my quote, but my true purpose here is to engage in constructive religious discussion. My pastor informed me of this quote recently and his interpretation of it so I looked it up to further examine different translations.
                            What sort of pastor is this that you have? What kind of church?
                            Bible boring? Nonsense!
                            Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
                            You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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                            • #15
                              Re: Newb here

                              Originally posted by BornAgainBert View Post
                              Alright I realize I've made a mistake with my quote, but my true purpose here is to engage in constructive religious discussion. My pastor informed me of this quote recently and his interpretation of it so I looked it up to further examine different translations. I should've looked at the context as well as looked up a quote again before relying solely on memory. Part of my purpose here is to become a more devoted and intelligent Christian, which I feel I have not fulfilled yet. Can we please get off this topic and my mistake so I can focus on the other benefits of a community like this? My opportunity to discuss religioun with experts is upon me and I would like to take advantage of it in hopes of becoming a better Christian. Thank you.
                              You don't get it. This is not simply a matter of misquoting Scripture.

                              Don't rely on your pastor or your memory when it comes to the Word of God, because if you add or delete anything you're going to Hell.

                              Seriously.

                              YiC,

                              Zech
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