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  • OnTheFence
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    • Nov 2012
    • 2

    #1

    I'm Trying

    Hi everyone,

    I am an early thirties father of two. I've been happily married for 7 years. I grew up in a catholic household and decided by age ten that it wasn't for me. Seeing my parents struggling financially just to keep a roof over my head and listening to the church deacon explain how this was the time to dig deep and increase their tithe just put a bad taste in my mouth. Increase! That's a lot of unfair pressure.

    I went through the motions to keep my family from becoming upset, but I have harbored much anger towards religion as a result. I am trying hard not to let my past influence my beliefs, but it's very difficult.

    I also am a very logical thinker and have a tough time reconciling some of the bible's stories with my own common sense.

    My noob questions are: How can I get past my previous hatred for religion as a whole so I can fully and honestly accept Jesus? And how can I learn to accept the bible as fact since it flies in the face of everything I have been taught to be true?
  • Zechariah Smyth
    Walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
    True Christian™
    • Feb 2011
    • 15251

    #2
    Re: I'm Trying

    Originally posted by OnTheFence View Post
    Hi everyone,

    I am an early thirties father of two. I've been happily married for 7 years.
    I grew up in a catholic household and decided by age ten that it wasn't for me. Seeing my parents struggling financially just to keep a roof over my head and listening to the church deacon explain how this was the time to dig deep and increase their tithe just put a bad taste in my mouth. Increase! That's a lot of unfair pressure.

    I went through the motions to keep my family from becoming upset, but I have harbored much anger towards religion as a result. I am trying hard not to let my past influence my beliefs, but it's very difficult.


    I also am a very logical thinker and have a tough time reconciling some of the bible's stories with my own common sense.


    My noob questions are: How can I get past my previous hatred for religion as a whole so I can fully and honestly accept Jesus? And how can I learn to accept the bible as fact since it flies in the face of everything I have been taught to be true?
    This is the catalyst for all of your problems. The papists teach their cult members all kinds of nonsense, like: Mary will listen to their prayers (hello? she'd dead!), crackers turn into meat, the "pope" is closer to God than they are, etc. etc.

    Get a KJV Bible and start at Genesis 1:1 and end at Revelation 22:21.

    SKIP NOTHING.

    I did exactly that when I was 17, and it changed my life forever!



    Yours in Christ,

    Z. Smyth
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    • Billy Bob Jenkins
      Family Man of the Year 2010-2013
      About as Straight and Manly as you can get
      Hates anal sex. And trees.
      True Christian™
      • May 2010
      • 8337

      #3
      Re: I'm Trying

      Originally posted by OnTheFence View Post
      Hi everyone,

      I am an early thirties father of two. I've been happily married for 7 years. I grew up in a catholic household and decided by age ten that it wasn't for me. Seeing my parents struggling financially just to keep a roof over my head and listening to the church deacon explain how this was the time to dig deep and increase their tithe just put a bad taste in my mouth. Increase! That's a lot of unfair pressure.

      I went through the motions to keep my family from becoming upset, but I have harbored much anger towards religion as a result. I am trying hard not to let my past influence my beliefs, but it's very difficult.

      I also am a very logical thinker and have a tough time reconciling some of the bible's stories with my own common sense.

      My noob questions are: How can I get past my previous hatred for religion as a whole so I can fully and honestly accept Jesus? And how can I learn to accept the bible as fact since it flies in the face of everything I have been taught to be true?
      I concur with brother Zechariah. You MUST read the Bible to get a full appreciation for God's sense of justice. If you have not done this, then it is no wonder you are such a tightwad. At least you did not give more to the decadent Catholic Church, when you should have been tithing 30% of your earnings to Landover Baptist that whole time. You did save the backpayments that you owe us, didn't you?
      The Only Real Climate Change Will be Hell!

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      • Pastor Ezekiel
        Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
         
        • Sep 2006
        • 78556

        #4
        Re: I'm Trying

        Originally posted by OnTheFence View Post
        Hi everyone,

        I am an early thirties father of two. I've been happily married for 7 years. I grew up in a catholic household and decided by age ten that it wasn't for me. Seeing my parents struggling financially just to keep a roof over my head and listening to the church deacon explain how this was the time to dig deep and increase their tithe just put a bad taste in my mouth. Increase! That's a lot of unfair pressure.

        I went through the motions to keep my family from becoming upset, but I have harbored much anger towards religion as a result. I am trying hard not to let my past influence my beliefs, but it's very difficult.

        I also am a very logical thinker and have a tough time reconciling some of the bible's stories with my own common sense.

        My noob questions are: How can I get past my previous hatred for religion as a whole so I can fully and honestly accept Jesus? And how can I learn to accept the bible as fact since it flies in the face of everything I have been taught to be true?
        What is your name, and why are you here?
        Who Will Jesus Damn?

        Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

        Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

        Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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        • Deaner
          Christ's Love Messenger
          True Christian™
          • Sep 2006
          • 5932

          #5
          Re: I'm Trying

          Originally posted by OnTheFence View Post
          My noob questions are: How can I get past my previous hatred for religion as a whole so I can fully and honestly accept Jesus? And how can I learn to accept the bible as fact since it flies in the face of everything I have been taught to be true?
          The answers to your questions are very simple, it is satan talking to you that is making things difficult.

          The King James Version of the Bible is 100% true and accurate to the last letter. You must accept this through faith. What is so hard to believe about a talking donkey when you are dealing with God??

          Your second problem seems to be about giving money when you have none. If you don't have enough to give to those snivelling wop catlicks you will not make it with our church either; we expect twice as much.

          Sell your house and move to a tent. Take your children out of school and send them to work. If you don't already have two jobs then get a second one. God does not reward laziness.

          Is their a food bank in your neighbourhood? Use it. Stop getting haircuts. Quit buying soap, toothpaste or deodarant. Every cent you have turn it over to Landover. Again you must have Faith that God will take care of you.

          F = Forget yourself and your own selfish needs.
          A= Arrogance is nothing but greediness.
          I= Idiots only will not follow these instructions
          T= Time and Jesus will wipe away all tears
          H= Hell awaits your entire family if you do not follow these instructions.

          Do you want to see your babies being anally raped by demons as they are being roasted like pigs over a barbque? I didn't think so.

          As you can see this all adds up to "FAITH".

          Jesus loves you friend. Return the favor.

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          • Cranky Old Man
            Trying to out-Methuselah Methuselah
            You kids get off his lawn!
             
            • Jan 2010
            • 22373

            #6
            Re: I'm Trying

            Originally posted by OnTheFence View Post
            father of two. I've been happily married for 7 years.
            How can a 7 year marriage that resulted in only 2 children be happy!?

            You need this: Cranky Old Man's Easy 8 Step Guide to MAKING CHILDREN!
            5 Reasons why GOD HATES WOMEN!
            To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
            James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

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            • OnTheFence
              Unsaved trash
              • Nov 2012
              • 2

              #7
              Re: I'm Trying

              Wow, If I get nothing faith based out of this, at least I'll have a source of entertainment. You guys are hilarious! Who do I write the check out to?

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              • James Hutchins
                True Christian™
                Just a Regular Nice Guy
                 
                • Jun 2009
                • 29453

                #8
                Re: I'm Trying

                Yopu think loving God is funny? What kind of a sick pervert are you?
                You can write a check to Jesus but I doubt it will be any good.
                Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                • Pastor Ed Lowman
                  Southern Hospitality Exemplified
                  Always kind and loving
                  True Christian™
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 1838

                  #9
                  Re: I'm Trying

                  Originally posted by OnTheFence View Post
                  Hi everyone,

                  I am an early thirties father of two. I've been happily married for 7 years. I grew up in a catholic household and decided by age ten that it wasn't for me. Seeing my parents struggling financially just to keep a roof over my head and listening to the church deacon explain how this was the time to dig deep and increase their tithe just put a bad taste in my mouth. Increase! That's a lot of unfair pressure.

                  I went through the motions to keep my family from becoming upset, but I have harbored much anger towards religion as a result. I am trying hard not to let my past influence my beliefs, but it's very difficult.

                  I also am a very logical thinker and have a tough time reconciling some of the bible's stories with my own common sense.

                  My noob questions are: How can I get past my previous hatred for religion as a whole so I can fully and honestly accept Jesus? And how can I learn to accept the bible as fact since it flies in the face of everything I have been taught to be true?
                  God's ways are not man's ways, son (Isaiah 55:8-9). What makes you a "very logical thinker" in man's eyes makes you a blithering idiot in God's eyes (see I Timothy 6:20).

                  And is it really that much harder to believe that God one day decided to create everything that we behold as opposed to everything just popping into existence from nothing?? That is sheer stupidity, friend. If we can't explain it, then God did it!

                  Surely you can learn to readjust your brain to agree with what is written in God's blessed 2,000-year-old Book.

                  YiC,

                  Pastor Ed

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                  • Cathy B.
                    Forum Member
                    Forum Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 31

                    #10
                    Re: I'm Trying

                    Originally posted by Deaner View Post
                    F = Forget yourself and your own selfish needs.
                    A= Arrogance is nothing but greediness.
                    I= Idiots only will not follow these instructions
                    T= Time and Jesus will wipe away all tears
                    H= Hell awaits your entire family if you do not follow these instructions.
                    With your permission, I'd like to laminate this list and put it up in my classroom (changing "these instructions" to "obey every command the Lord has laid out in the Holy Bible," and "your entire family" to include "even your little baby sister")

                    Originally posted by Deaner View Post
                    Do you want to see your babies being anally raped by demons as they are being roasted like pigs over a barbque? I didn't think so.
                    I'd like to use this as the heading over my chalkboard so the children see it each and every day, and can ponder the choice they have before them. I'll have the children draw some pictures to accompany them. I find that having the children draw these kinds of scenes helps them to recall the facts later in life.

                    Deaner, the Holy Spirit has moved through me like a wildfire with your words. I have not only sold my car (I received a lovely thank you card and stick of gum from Miss Cookie in the church office, thank you!), but I have decided to sell my home, as humble as it is, and sublet a room to rent with the elderly sisters on the west side of town. Some townfolk say they are a little crazy, but I don't mind cats, even dozens of them. And I can get used to the smell. I don't think they are witches like people say because they always come to church services on Sunday and sing along, even if they are completely tone deaf and one of them is regular deaf so sings long after everyone else is done.

                    I have also sold my clothes, keeping just three outfits - one to wear, one to wash, one to dry in the closet. I've sold my jewelry already. The little golden teddy bear earrings were hard to part with, being they were a 13th birthday present from my father, but the Lord's work is far more important than any sentimental tokens I may have. Besides, in Heaven, I'll have all the gold teddy-bear earrings a gal could want.

                    God revealed to me in a dream the other night that He has a particular man in mind for me to marry, someone who will be pious enough to recognize the value of living in a room to rent so that all extra money can go to charity (ie, Landover Baptist Church). So I would only say to OnTheFence to trust God, and by that I mean trust His authority on Earth (like Landover Baptist Church pastors and staff), and you will be heartily rewarded!

                    "The guilt burdened soul cries out for the lashes and nails of justice. Your child cannot yet understand that the Creator has been lashed and nailed in his place. Only the rod of correction can preserve his soul until the day of moral dawning."
                    Michael Pearl

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                    • Matthew Hopkins
                      True Christian™
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 808

                      #11
                      Re: I'm Trying

                      Originally posted by Cathy B. View Post
                      With your permission, I'd like to laminate this list and put it up in my classroom (changing "these instructions" to "obey every command the Lord has laid out in the Holy Bible," and "your entire family" to include "even your little baby sister")



                      I'd like to use this as the heading over my chalkboard so the children see it each and every day, and can ponder the choice they have before them. I'll have the children draw some pictures to accompany them. I find that having the children draw these kinds of scenes helps them to recall the facts later in life.

                      Deaner, the Holy Spirit has moved through me like a wildfire with your words. I have not only sold my car (I received a lovely thank you card and stick of gum from Miss Cookie in the church office, thank you!), but I have decided to sell my home, as humble as it is, and sublet a room to rent with the elderly sisters on the west side of town. Some townfolk say they are a little crazy, but I don't mind cats, even dozens of them. And I can get used to the smell. I don't think they are witches like people say because they always come to church services on Sunday and sing along, even if they are completely tone deaf and one of them is regular deaf so sings long after everyone else is done.

                      I have also sold my clothes, keeping just three outfits - one to wear, one to wash, one to dry in the closet. I've sold my jewelry already. The little golden teddy bear earrings were hard to part with, being they were a 13th birthday present from my father, but the Lord's work is far more important than any sentimental tokens I may have. Besides, in Heaven, I'll have all the gold teddy-bear earrings a gal could want.

                      God revealed to me in a dream the other night that He has a particular man in mind for me to marry, someone who will be pious enough to recognize the value of living in a room to rent so that all extra money can go to charity (ie, Landover Baptist Church). So I would only say to OnTheFence to trust God, and by that I mean trust His authority on Earth (like Landover Baptist Church pastors and staff), and you will be heartily rewarded!
                      Would you be prepared to keep house in The Ozarks, Missouri?

                      YBIC

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                      • Cathy B.
                        Forum Member
                        Forum Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 31

                        #12
                        Re: I'm Trying

                        Originally posted by Matthew Hopkins View Post
                        Would you be prepared to keep house in The Ozarks, Missouri?

                        YBIC
                        I will pray about this.


                        "The guilt burdened soul cries out for the lashes and nails of justice. Your child cannot yet understand that the Creator has been lashed and nailed in his place. Only the rod of correction can preserve his soul until the day of moral dawning."
                        Michael Pearl

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                        • Carl the wop
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                          • Oct 2012
                          • 462

                          #13
                          Re: I'm Trying

                          Originally posted by OnTheFence View Post
                          Wow, If I get nothing faith based out of this, at least I'll have a source of entertainment. You guys are hilarious! Who do I write the check out to?
                          The only thing I find hilarious is the smell of your roasting flesh in the fires of hell, "friend". I hope you like yourself extra crispy.
                          Recovering Catholic.

                          Helping restore the "bully" to the "bully pulpit"

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