[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

I never said a "True Christian" has stated he or she can forgive sins. I said it may be my misunderstanding -- by the repetition and hounding some do in order to have others confess their sins here as if their salvation depends upon it.

I expressed my understanding so that it could be corrected if wrong. That is why I said, "Perhaps it is my misunderstanding." Thanks for listening to me ramble my thoughts aloud Zechariah Smyth, and assuring me this is not the case.

Mr. Shimei, you said it was your opinion that "some here think it themselves who forgive men the sins committed against God," and "people here are forgiven of the sins by other people rather than against the people they have sinned against." Who did you mean? Who is thinking this? Who is doing this "hounding," please?

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

Shimei, thank you for acknowledging your egregious error.



It's not like we can ignore James 5:16 now, can we?

[Shimei]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

Mr. Shimei, you said it was your opinion that "some here think it themselves who forgive men the sins committed against God," and "people here are forgiven of the sins by other people rather than against the people they have sinned against." Who did you mean? Who is thinking this? Who is doing this "hounding," please?

I was forming this observation upon the needy people who seemingly want so badly to be accepted by this group. I was merely attempting to be the mouthpiece that conveys this. I am experiencing sympathy and compassion for some of these people who come in here, and I would just hope that I or others do not become a stumbling block to their salvation.

The last thing in my nature is to with all intent bear false witness and slander another wrongly.

I don't know why I am receiving these signals and wrongly misinterpreting this from others. Perhaps I am projecting on people, and if so, I apologize.

[Thomas Taylor]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

Thank you Thomas.

I love how this got turnt around. First of all I agree with Scripture and believe that it is the absolute truth. Joshua said to Achan confess unto him. Exactly who? The Lord, and that I have done.

There's no righteous deed we can do that will earn us a place in Heaven -- Titus 3:5. We come to Christ empty-handed. We can take no credit for salvation: "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast" -- Ephesians 2:8-9

Confess your faults to one another. Right, I admit to having been a sinner whose sins are covered up by the nails that pierced the bleeding hands of Jesus. If any man want to know them take it to Jesus in prayer, perhaps He may uncover them? I have reconciled my difference with people in life that I have wronged. I am to confess my sins to the person I have wronged before the Lord and need not to any other.

Power is not entrusted in men or a group or organization to forgive the transgressions against the holy nature of God. The church is to convey forgiveness to the penitent in heart and to warn the impenitent that they are forfeiting the mercy of God. This is what John 20:19-23 and the said Scriptures quoted means to me.

Perhaps it is my misunderstanding, but it appears that some here think it themselves who forgive men the sins committed against God? And that people here are forgiven of the sins by other people rather than against the people they have sinned against?

Mr Shiney,

We are not Papes and it is not our place to forgive anyone's sins.

It is, however, our duty to bear witness to the sins of others.

What you are attempting is to read into God's Holy word what "YOU" think it should mean.
Everything you need to live your life by is here. Live by what the Word of God says. Obey the Word of God to the letter. You will find that you have a much better life if you do not try to think about what the Bible is saying. Just do as God tells you.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

I was forming this observation upon the needy people who seemingly want so badly to be accepted by this group. I was merely attempting to be the mouthpiece that conveys this. I am experiencing sympathy and compassion for some of these people who come in here, and I would just hope that I or others do not become a stumbling block to their salvation.

The last thing in my nature is to with all intent bear false witness and slander another wrongly.

I don't know why I am receiving these signals and wrongly misinterpreting this from others. Perhaps I am projecting on people, and if so, I apologize.

I'm sorry, I didn't read any names in this post. I'm still curious as to who it is you opine "think it themselves who forgive men the sins committed against God," and which posters give the impression that people "are forgiven of the sins by other people rather than against the people they have sinned against." Who did you mean? Who is thinking this? Who is doing this "hounding," please? You said it was not a True Christian™ so perhaps we have a trouble maker on our forums. Unless, as Mr. Taylor so insightfully suggests, we have a papist in our midst giving the impression that sins can be forgiven by mere mortal men. These are serious problems if they are true. Please be so kind as to share what information you have. If you would prefer to do this in private, any pastor will hear your concerns with the utmost confidentiality. The pastors all have email addresses linked within their posts, as well as at the bottom of every page.

Thank you for your attention to this situation.

[Nathan B. Forrest]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

Blah Blah.....I don't know why I am receiving these signals and wrongly misinterpreting this from others. Perhaps I am projecting on people, and if so, I apologize.

Sir, are you a communist pinko? You are really coming across as one..

~Nate

[Valkyre]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

Of course only God can forgive my sins, I just wish for help from those closer to God than myself, the True Christians. They can bear witness to my sins and hopefully guide me on the way to redemption.

[Valkyre]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

I obviously need to clean up my act, stop my lesbian acts and allowing others to cheat on their partners with me. I also need to stop selling myself online. It's not really about the actions you go through, it's more about feeling wanted and desired. That will be the hardest thing to overcome. I am still a virgin so at least that is something, I think I don't like commitment which is a big issue for me. I want to be desired, and I am. I get asked out a lot without any of the other stuff, but I like being free to... well sin really... I need a man to teach me how to behave in a godly way but no such people seem to live in godless England. At least none that I know of. I want to obey God and obey man. All the men who are interested in me want to obey me! I can't imagine anything worse. There are no strong male figures in my life, so it has been hard on me. So temptation got the better of me when others wanted to use me and tell me what to do, I'm ashamed to say. How can I set myself back on the right path? Obviously I will pray and look for the Lord's guidance but any help would be much appreciated.