[Thinks Design]

Re: Introduction

I am pretty sure I am Catholic. That's what my Bishop said when he confirmed me last Easter.

How can you trust someone high up in an institution that protects and shelters practicing paedophiles?

ThinsDesign.

[ACatholic]

Re: Introduction

You're starting to piss me off buddy! Look, I'm no Bible scholar, I just do what the Pastors tell me, and they tell me to follow the KJV1611. And my KJV1611 ain't got no Apochrypa or whatever you call it in there. I just looked in the index of my family Bible, and that crap isn't in there, so that makes you a ding-danged LIAR!

I showed you a link that publishes the ORIGINAL KJV that was published in 1611 by King James himself. It has the Apocrypha in it. If your KJV doesn't have the Apocrypha in it, than doesn't that make your pastor the liar?

[Professor Bessemer]

Re: Introduction

And there is a difference between bowing down and worshiping. Bowing down is a sign of respect. The same thing as a military salute. I respect Mary, the saints, all Christians who have gone before me and who have given my the deposit of faith that was first given to him and all of God's angels (not his demons).

Praise be to the Lord Jesus Christ forever.

Now you are simply splitting hairs. Are you trying to tell me that the following is, as you say, showing respect and not prayer?

"Blessed be God in His Angels and in His Saints"

O Holy St. Anthony, gentlest of Saints, your love for God and Charity for His creatures, made you worthy, when on earth, to possess miraculous powers. Encouraged by this thought, I implore you to obtain for me (request). O gentle and loving St. Anthony, whose heart was ever full of human sympathy, whisper my petition into the ears of the sweet Infant Jesus, who loved to be folded in your arms; and the gratitude of my heart will ever be yours. Amen.

[ACatholic]

Re: Introduction

Are you sure you are a catholic and not just someone who thought pretending to be a catholic would really annoy us?

The King James Bible is the Bible. Are you saying that God didn't actually oversee its writing and it is invalid?

I am pretty sure I am Catholic. That's what my Bishop said when he confirmed me last Easter.

What I am saying is that the same Holy Spirit who inspired the writings of the scriptures guided its compilation. But King James and his scholars included the Apocrypha. If the Holy Spirit inspired King James, than why have you taken the Apocrypha out? Or if the Holy Spirit inspired you, than he must not have inspired King James who included the Apocrypha.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: Introduction

The KJV1611 contains the Apocrypha which teaches me to pray for the dead... should I do that?

Take a look at the Table of Contents:

http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1611-Bible/

The Apocrypha is in there.

Fair enough, but it was Jesus who quoted the Greek version of the Scriptures. Why does the reformation church think it has the authority to pick what books are in the Bible and what books are not?

You're starting to piss me off buddy! Look, I'm no Bible scholar, I just do what the Pastors tell me, and they tell me to follow the KJV1611. And my KJV1611 ain't got no Apochrypa or whatever you call it in there. I just looked in the index of my family Bible, and that crap isn't in there, so that makes you a ding-danged LIAR!

[ACatholic]

Re: Introduction

Let's have a bit we can all agree is in the Bible.

Exodus 20:4-6
4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

When did you first decide God didn't really mean this?

By that logic, drawing a picture of a person like the smily faces you all use would mean that you are all damned to hell.

This commandment was given right before Moses came down and found that his people were worshiping a golden calf. That is what this commandment means. Don't worship idols. The picture above is meant to glorify God and God alone. When we bow before a statue, we don't worship the statue, we worship God. That's what symbology is. We don't worship the symbol, but what the symbol points to.

And there is a difference between bowing down and worshiping. Bowing down is a sign of respect. The same thing as a military salute. I respect Mary, the saints, all Christians who have gone before me and who have given my the deposit of faith that was first given to him and all of God's angels (not his demons).

Praise be to the Lord Jesus Christ forever.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Introduction

Fair enough, but it was Jesus who quoted the Greek version of the Scriptures...

Really? Where?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Introduction

Fair enough, but it was Jesus who quoted the Greek version of the Scriptures. Why does the reformation church think it has the authority to pick what books are in the Bible and what books are not?

Are you sure you are a catholic and not just someone who thought pretending to be a catholic would really annoy us?

The King James Bible is the Bible. Are you saying that God didn't actually oversee its writing and it is invalid?

[ACatholic]

Re: Introduction

Fair enough, but it was Jesus who quoted the Greek version of the Scriptures. Why does the reformation church think it has the authority to pick what books are in the Bible and what books are not?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Introduction

Let's have a bit we can all agree is in the Bible.

Exodus 20:4-6
4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

When did you first decide God didn't really mean this?

[Professor Bessemer]

Re: Introduction

Take a look at the Table of Contents:

http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1611-Bible/

The Apocrypha is in there.

Friend, the Books of Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Tobias, Judith, Baruch, First and Second Machabees and portions of Esther and Daniel are the Apocrypha.

At the Reformation the churches which separated from Rome and followed True Christianity(tm) decided that the above Books were not of equal authority with the rest since they are not to be found in the Hebrew Bible, but only in the Greek version; hence Catholic heretics call them "Deuterocanonical" or Books to be found only in the second or Greek list of canonical Scriptures.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Introduction

My condolences on being absorbed into a false Christian death cult.

[ACatholic]

Re: Introduction

Take a look at the Table of Contents:

http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1611-Bible/

The Apocrypha is in there.

[Professor Bessemer]

Re: Introduction

The KJV1611 contains the Apocrypha which teaches me to pray for the dead... should I do that?

Excuse me?

I am nearly speechless at the ignorance of the above statement. Honestly, when a person says something so blatantly wrong, the mind boggles for a moment.

[ACatholic]

Re: Introduction

The KJV1611 contains the Apocrypha which teaches me to pray for the dead... should I do that?