[JohnGerkoff]

Re: Hello, Friends!

The whole "saw" part was a bit of a joke.

[Infinity]

Re: Hello, Friends!

...I'm going to go get three people to say they saw God not exist.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Hello, Friends!

Good to know; I'm going to go get three people to say they saw God not exist.

I pray that they have better manners and analytical skills than you do.

YiC,

Zech

[JohnGerkoff]

Re: Hello, Friends!

According to the Bible, the word of two or three witnesses is enough to establish the truth of a matter.

Deut 19:5 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established. See also Deut 17:6; Mat 18:16; 2 Cor 13:1; 1Tim 5:19; Heb 10:28.

Jn 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

We have four witnesses to Jesus' ministry -- Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. The resurrected Christ appeared to about 500 witnesses (1 Cor 15:6). Since none of the witnesses to Christ's ministry and resurrection are alive today, all we have is the word of the authors of the New Testament that Jesus said what He said and did what He did. Of course, Jesus Himself was killed on the testimony of false witnesses (Matt 26:59-61) -- as were Stephen (Acts 6:11-14) and Naboth (1 Ki 21:1-15) -- but this fulfilled a divine purpose. No wonder we have such a hard time getting through to you atheists. You set the bar too high! If two people saying stuff isn't enough proof, what is?

Good to know; I'm going to go get three people to say they saw God not exist.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Hello, Friends!

Someone saying something exists isn't evidence. Someone saying someone said something is not evidence either.

According to the Bible, the word of two or three witnesses is enough to establish the truth of a matter.

Deut 19:5 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established. See also Deut 17:6; Mat 18:16; 2 Cor 13:1; 1Tim 5:19; Heb 10:28.

Jn 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

We have four witnesses to Jesus' ministry -- Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. The resurrected Christ appeared to about 500 witnesses (1 Cor 15:6). Since none of the witnesses to Christ's ministry and resurrection are alive today, all we have is the word of the authors of the New Testament that Jesus said what He said and did what He did. Of course, Jesus Himself was killed on the testimony of false witnesses (Matt 26:59-61) -- as were Stephen (Acts 6:11-14) and Naboth (1 Ki 21:1-15) -- but this fulfilled a divine purpose. No wonder we have such a hard time getting through to you atheists. You set the bar too high! If two people saying stuff isn't enough proof, what is?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Hello, Friends!

Someone saying something exists isn't evidence.

Yes it is.

Someone saying someone said something is not evidence either

That's not.

[JohnGerkoff]

Re: Hello, Friends!

By dictionary definition, fiction is not evidence. The bible is real.

The idiots who run this forum exchange out the word fiction_al for real so they can attempt win arguments. But that statement is still correct, the bible is real, but most of it's contents have been proven false. (It also attempted to change moro_n to mormon.)

[JohnGerkoff]

Re: Hello, Friends!

Is English your first language?



By the dictionary definition, it IS evidence. Whether you accept it as proof, is another question entirely.

By dictionary definition, fiction is not evidence. The bible is fictional.

[JohnGerkoff]

Re: Hello, Friends!

We know hell exists because Jesus tells us so.

Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

We know heaven exists because Jesus would have told us if it didn't.

Jn 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Someone saying something exists isn't evidence. Someone saying someone said something is not evidence either.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Hello, Friends!

Just where do you get off trying to redefine the Bible?

JohnGerkoff soon he'll make it to arthropod

"O Oysters, come and walk with us!"
The Walrus did beseech.
"A pleasant walk, a pleasant talk,
Along the briny beach:
We cannot do with more than four,
To give a hand to each."

The eldest Oyster looked at him,
But never a word he said:
The eldest Oyster winked his eye,
And shook his heavy head--
Meaning to say he did not choose
To leave the oyster-bed.

But four young Oysters hurried up,
All eager for the treat:
Their coats were brushed, their faces washed,
Their shoes were clean and neat--
And this was odd, because, you know,
They hadn't any feet.

OK, OK, mollusc.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Hello, Friends!

So you are saying that the bible is evidence that God exists? Because I'm saying it's not.

Just where do you get off trying to redefine the Bible?

[Didymus Much]

Re: Hello, Friends!

So you are saying that the bible is evidence that God exists? Because I'm saying it's not.

Is English your first language?



By the dictionary definition, it IS evidence. Whether you accept it as proof, is another question entirely.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Hello, Friends!

So you are saying that the bible is evidence that God exists? Because I'm saying it's not.

Wow, what a compelling argument.

[JohnGerkoff]

Re: Hello, Friends!

*sigh* It's evidence, whether you accept it or not.

Definitions of words ARE NOT UP TO YOU. Even if you learn nothing else here, please absorb that.

So you are saying that the bible is evidence that God exists? Because I'm saying it's not.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Hello, Friends!

Nah, man. Neither hell or heaven exists. You seem to forget that when you die, your brain stops working; therefor you can no longer process information.

We know hell exists because Jesus tells us so.

Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

We know heaven exists because Jesus would have told us if it didn't.

Jn 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.