[Didymus Much]

Re: Hello, I am new here.

...In my second vision, ALL FOUR FIGURES were present...

Yet all you offer as "proof" is your own interpretation of some ambiguous Scripture, and your own testimony. As God has never (as far as I know) offered this knowledge to any other of the seven+ billion people alive now (or the 100+ billion throughout history), you must admit there are grounds for skepticism about your claims.

Why would God offer you (and only you) this knowledge?

If this knowledge is necessary for salvation, why would God condemn every person who has ever lived, no matter how devout, EXCEPT for you?

If this knowledge is NOT necessary for salvation, why would He have offered it at all?

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Hello, I am new here.

NOR HAS HIS VOICE EVER BEEN HEARD BY MAN!

then He will answer you.

You contradict yourself What a dope.

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Jesus wins, again.

[Thorwald]

Re: Hello, I am new here.

The things I'm telling you are straight from the Bible. The things you are posting are straight from your brain, such as it is.

Who should I trust?

The scriptures that I provided, ARE from the KJV Bible. If 1 Timothy 6:16 and John 5:37 state that there is a FATHER who cannot be seen by ANY man, nor has ANY man EVER heard His voice at ANY time, then who spoke from heaven, "This is my Son in whom I am well pleased?"

The disciples/apostles/Isaiah have made Christ the Son of the 'invisible to man' Father. THIS IS NOT TRUE. In my second vision, ALL FOUR FIGURES were present...two who I was allowed to see, and two who I was not allowed to see. God and Jesus Christ were in total 'subjection' to the invisible Father and His Holy Spirit.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Hello, I am new here.

Someone who claims to be anointed by God throwing around vanity accusations...mister, I hope you stay here forever! The scales will soon fall from your eyes and you'll be basking in the inerrant Word of God and not your own delusions.

GLORY!!!

[Thorwald]

Re: Hello, I am new here.

You are INTERPRETING the Bible instead of READING it and FOLLOWING it.

Go back and read the verse I provided to you. Go on with your anointed self.



YiC,

Zech

I interpreted 'NOTHING'. God interpreted the scriptures for me. He linked many of the scriptures in a way that I could NEVER do myself. In one night alone, I read through the NT...TWICE...back to back. I could link the scriptures very easily, because on the second time through, I still remembered what I had just read on my first time through.

If you only knew the truth......THIS IS NO GAME.....We are talking about wisdom versus vanity, and spiritual life versus spiritual death.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Hello, I am new here.

The things I'm telling you are straight from the Bible. The things you are posting are straight from your brain, such as it is.

Who should I trust?

[Thorwald]

Re: Hello, I am new here.

Nobody has ever seen God?



Did you skip Genesis 17:1 when you (supposedly) read the Bible at ten? It's right at the beginning.

YiC,

Zech

My friend, you are lost in your own blindness. You are 'playing God'. The wise thing to do, is ignore your own vanity, and seek wisdom from God. Ask God who I am. Ask Him if I am telling you the truth. If your faith is true, then He will answer you. If you believe that God is your Father, and He will not lead you astray, then ASK YOUR FATHER.

I care nothing about 'infractions'. They mean NOTHING to me. As I mentioned in my thread at the beginning, I have been banned from several forums. This is nothing new to me. It is written, that if they threw the master out, they will surely throw you out. Be careful that you do not condemn yourself by what you write.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Hello, I am new here.

You are INTERPRETING the Bible instead of READING it and FOLLOWING it.

Go back and read the verse I provided to you. Go on with your anointed self.



YiC,

Zech

[Thorwald]

Re: Hello, I am new here.

Nobody has ever seen God?



Did you skip Genesis 17:1 when you (supposedly) read the Bible at ten? It's right at the beginning.

YiC,

Zech

You miss the whole point. THERE IS A FATHER WHO HAS NEVER BEEN SEEN BY MAN, NOR HAS HIS VOICE EVER BEEN HEARD BY MAN! The disciples/apostles ASSUMED that Christ was THE SON of this 'invisible to man FATHER'. They were influenced by OT scriptures (even Isaiah, who assumed that the figure he saw sitting on the throne was this 'invisible' Father, and feared for His life. He then ASSUMED that it was The Lord of Hosts...He actually saw the same figure as John saw in Revelation chapter 4...THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY...THE SON OF THE INVISIBLE FATHER).

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Hello, I am new here.

Jesus never had a "get-out-of-jail-free" card. Redemption is not a Monopoly game. Please do not attempt to add to the Glory of Christ.

YiC,

Zech

[Thorwald]

Re: Hello, I am new here.

Hello, friend. Are you trying to scare us or something? Where do you attend church? What is your favorite Bible verse? How did you come to know Jesus?

Let me try to explain something to everyone. I am anointed by God. He used Numbers 12:6 to prove this to me. I don't need your authorization, in order to do His work.

T^he scriptures are NOT 'inerrant'. There are many errors/contradictions. Many of these can be found by searching the internet for lists of them. One of the greatest errors, that goes all the way back into the OT, is the true understanding of The Trinity & The Godhead. THERE ARE 'FOUR' FIGURES,...NOT THREE!

The Christian ministry has never sought the truth from God, through prayer. God cares NOTHING about diplomas/degrees in Theology. Christ 'avoided' the so-called 'learned' (who were in fact lost in their own vanity). He talked in parables so that they would not understand, and therefore Christ would not have to save them. He chose very simple people, to train as disciples. They were not defiled by their own vanity or the vanity of the 'clergy'.

When Christ called out on the cross, it wasn't because His Father had turned away due to the sin Christ had taken upon Himself (as taught by the ministry), but rather, God allowed Satan to tempt Christ at the end of His life. We have to be found worthy 'until the end'...So did Christ. If Christ had lost His faith and perhaps even cursed His Father, we would be without a saviour. Christ had a 'get out of jail' free 'card', that none of us have. Christ was commanded by The Father, that He could give up His life and take it back again. Evidently He tried this, and nothing happened. Christ thought that His work was completed, but it wasn't. He had one more 'job' to do. He had to be tempted...just like us. Remember, the power that was given to Christ, was actually a form of 'carnal suicide'. We are not allowed this.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Hello, I am new here.

Nobody has ever seen God?



Did you skip Genesis 17:1 when you (supposedly) read the Bible at ten? It's right at the beginning.

YiC,

Zech

[Thorwald]

Re: Hello, I am new here.

The only way to get banned here is to disobey some rather simple rules. They are basically common sense and manners, but you would be amazed at how many people forget those things when confronted with the full force of Scripture!

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

Well, try this....

The Trinity (Father, Son & Holy Ghost) DOES NOT INCLUDE JESUS CHRIST. THE SON is THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. The Godhead consists of THE SON and His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ. These two 'figures' make up THE GODHEAD (Isaiah 44:6). NO MAN HAS EVER SEEN THE FATHER (of The Lord God Almighty). Read 1 Timothy 6:16 and John 5:37 KJV Bible.

Our Father (and Christ's Father) is THE SON of The Trinity. Many have seen Christ standing on the right hand of The Lord God Almighty...including me. Both figures are 'identical' (in the express image of each other). They are Caucasians, with well-groomed black hair. They appear as men in their thirties, and are 'clean-shaven'.

In Christ,
Thorwald Johansen

[Thorwald]

Re: Hello, I am new here.

Magic 8-Ball says, "Not for long".

"Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus." <--- That. Now.

I have attended MANY Christian churches. I started to attend church when I was five years of age, along with my two sisters. They soon stopped attending church, but I continued to do so. I read through the KJV Bible at the age of ten, while my friends were outside 'playing'. I became a Christian soon after. I am now 63 years of age. ALL OF THE BIBLE VERSES ARE MY FAVOURITES.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Hello, I am new here.

The only way to get banned here is to disobey some rather simple rules. They are basically common sense and manners, but you would be amazed at how many people forget those things when confronted with the full force of Scripture!

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth