[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Nothing But The Truth!

tl;dr

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[PreacherOfTruth]

Re: Nothing But The Truth!

The problem with you and most everyone else that has been raised in Christianity of the 1900's and up is that it has not dawned upon them that the beginning of God's word is not the book of Genesis and the end is not the book of Revelation. God was speaking long before Genesis and long after Revelation. They have never heard the spoken word, they have just read a fraction of a fraction of the written word. And their whole concept and knowledge of God and all that pertains to him is as if you liken it to one grain of sand in all the universe and even then that is giving them the benefit of the doubt. They like you cannot grasp that there is the written word of God an there is the spoken word of God. God did not start speaking at Genesis and God did not stop speaking after the Book of revelation.

They like you fail to realize.

The written word of God, was the spoken word of God, before it became the written word of God.

And they can only believe and even that is very limited...the written word of God. Like you they cannot believe what they cannot see. If they cannot see the spoken word of God written between Genesis and Revelation... then they cannot believe. And the reason being they do not hear the spoken word of God.

It is written...

And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

Jesus defeated Satan on the cross.

So did I.

You have to defeat sin and death on your own cross.

LOOK AT ALL THE LIARS

OUT THERE IN CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIANS.

AND PREACHING THE GOSPEL.

Acts, Chapter 2

44: And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45: And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
46: And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
47: Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

I AM IN THIS CHURCH.

Luke, Chapter 14, 33: So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsake not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY...NO MATTER HOW THEY TWIST THEIR WORDS...NO MATTER HOW MANY EXCUSES AND EXPLANATIONS THE GIVE YOU...

IF THEY DID NOT FORSAKE ALL THAT THEY HAVE...
THEY ARE LIARS AND DECEIVERS AND THEY AIN'T NO CHRISTIAN.

THIS IS HOW YOU KNOW A TRUE CHRISTIAN.

THEY HAVE TO OBEY THIS COMMANDMENT OF JESUS CHRIST.

IF THEY DID NOT OBEY THIS COMMANDMENT...

AND FORSAKE ALL THAT THEY HAVE...

NO MATTER WHAT...

NO MATTER HOW MANY OTHER VERSES THEY GIVE TO TRY TO

TWIST THE WORD OF JESUS CHRIST.

THEY ARE FAKES,LIARS AND DECEIVERS AND HAVE NOT COME TO THE TRUTH OR THE LIGHT AS JESUS SAID YOU HAD TO DO TO BE HIS DISCIPLE.

JESUS SAID THIS..."Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father".

Jesus healed the sick, raised the dead, made the blind to see, walked on water, turned water into wine, fed 5,000 with 2 fishes and 5 loaves of bread and cast out demons, made the lame to walk. and many many other miracles and signs and wonders.

What are the greater works than He did, that you will do...

if you BELIEVE on JESUS?

The Christians are long gone.

These people on Earth calling themselves Christians are impostors and deceivers. They are the children of the devil trying to hijack the Kingdom of God.

A Christian is exactly what they are said to be in the Book of Acts.

Acts, Chapter 11, 26: And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

It was just a slang word that the disciples in the city of Antioch were referred too.

THAT IS ALL.

You can see how Satan has exploited this.

All of the churches that the Apostles started are long gone. There are none of them on this Earth.

They were all hijacked and taken over by the children of the devil the same as America has become hijacked and taken over. Some even in the days of the Apostles.

All you have now on earth are all these impostors that are children of the devil calling themselves Christians.

They are not of God. They have not the Spirit of God.

They are liars and deceivers.

Takers and perverts and polluters and desecrate the mercy and the word of God.

There is no religion on Earth that is of God.

Here is my undeniable proof that the word Christian was a slang.

THERE WAS NO SUCH WORD AS CHRISTIAN. In any language.

They made it up to refer to a certain particular group
of people in a certain location.

Not the over all movement.

That is SLANG.

Now do you know of any

Christians from Antioch on Earth?

The word or term Christian cannot be found no where in

the Book of Revelation. This is a fact that cannot be

dismissed or taking lightly.

The disciples of Jesus Christ were called Christians in Antioch. To be a Christian, you must be a disciple of Jesus Christ. To be a disciple of Jesus Christ it is written...

So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

I suspect you are
neither a Christian nor a child of God.

Just in lip service only.

it is written...

This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

I DO NOT NEED THE BIBLE TO KNOW THE TRUTH

I have the indwelling of the Holy Ghost. None of those who wrote the books of the old testament had the indwelling of the Holy Ghost. And Supposedly those who wrote the books of the new testament had the indwelling of the Holy Ghost. So the same Spirit that you say inspired them...lives in me.

The same Spirit that supposedly taught them...teaches me and guides me into all truth.

I do not have to have the bible to know what they knew or to know the word of God or to be taught by them OR TO KNOW THE TRUTH.

I have the Holy Ghost.

I rely solely upon the Holy Ghost.

When I want to know anything...I do not ask or read or look anywhere.

I ask Jesus through the Holy Ghost. And I look no where else.

And if Jesus does not tell me.

I look no further.

I drop it.

Because I learned long ago

if Jesus wants me to know.

HE WILL MAKE SURE I WILL KNOW.

Even IN THE BIBLE it is written...

John, Chapter 16, 13: Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.

1 John, Chapter 2, 27: But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

The Salvation of God cometh by the Spirit of God.


I am saved by the Spirit of God.

And the works I do are the works of God.

Done by the Spirit of God that dwells within me.

Just as it did with Jesus.

It takes no faith or grace by me for it is the Spirit that dwells within me.


In fact it is the Spirit within me that causes me to obey all the commandments of the Lord Jesus the Christ.

I am not saved by grace.

I am not saved by faith.

I am saved by the Spirit of God.


The commandments of God which were revealed by Jesus the Christ who was sent by God to destroy the works of the devil and to reveal the commandments of God which are the laws of the Spirit.

It takes the Spirit of God dwelling within you, to obey the laws of the Spirit.

If the Spirit of God does not dwell within you, then you will not obey the laws of the Spirit.

This is how you can tell the difference between the children of the flesh and the children of the Spirit.

1 John, Chapter 2, 27: But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

John, Chapter 8, 12: Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.


I do not live by the word of God. I live by the Spirit of God. If you cannot receive this I cannot help you and it it not my problem. I posted this here for those who might receive it. Not for those who want to argue with me but can't prove anything one way or the other. You can't even prove what you believe is true... much less prove what I believe is not true.

And I am not going to try to explain or teach you something that you cannot or will not receive in the first place.

It takes the indwelling of the Spirit of God to go where I go. The word of God will not do it for you.

The devil and all the demons and have the word of God.

But

they do not have the Spirit of God.

Without the Spirit of God

The word of God is dead.

The Life of the word is the Spirit.


Righteousness has the sweet sweet fragrance of Holiness.
Did You Know that sin stinks to God?
That is were the saying "It stinks to high
Heaven" came from.

I want the Lord to smell that sweet sweet
fragrance of Holiness upon me.
Sin is all unrighteousness.
I strive to to make sure everything I do is right
and will be acceptable before God.
Everyday All Day Long.
This brings great peace and happiness upon my life.

I avoid sin like the plague.
Sin is a plague.
The plague of evil. When you sin
you bring evil upon yourself and others.
I hate evil. I hate sin.
And I do not want it upon me.

So I avoid sin like I would avoid a rattlesnake.
See when you sin its like a rattlesnake bites you.
It paralyzes you. It paralyzes your life.
I see so many lives everyday
with all kinds of evil upon them.
And they do not know why.
They have all the turmoil upon their lives.
It is because of their sin or the sin of others.

I hope my little sermon on Righteousness
will help some sinner
bring his deeds to the Light and smell the sweet
fragrance of Holiness.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Nothing But The Truth!

Did leaving off " :for this is the law and the prophets" change the meaning of "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them"?

If so from what to what?

You need to stop whining and post a sermon.

Don't leave anything out.



YiC,

Zech

[PreacherOfTruth]

Re: Nothing But The Truth!

I'm sure that even you can admit that the following phrases completely change when you omit some words:

"I'm going to cut you."

"I'm going to cut you a piece of cake."

YiC,

Zech

P.S. Still waiting on one of your sermons. Tick-tock!

Did leaving off " :for this is the law and the prophets" change the meaning of "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them"?

If so from what to what?

[Donovan A. Mordecai]

Re: Nothing But The Truth!

Then I did not misquote what I did not quote.

Do you have a comprehension problem?

By omitting part of a verse you misquote it

You misunderstand something when you think it means anything other than what it actually does.

I hope that you are able to follow what I'm saying now, so we can avoid any of your future misunderstandings

Yours in Him
DAM

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Nothing But The Truth!

I'm sure that even you can admit that the following phrases completely change when you omit some words:

"I'm going to cut you."

"I'm going to cut you a piece of cake."

YiC,

Zech

P.S. Still waiting on one of your sermons. Tick-tock!

[Donovan A. Mordecai]

Re: Nothing But The Truth!

You have no rights here, and even if I had that power, I wouldn't use it to make you seem like a better/smarter person than you are.

Only you can do that, through God

Philippians 4:12-13
12 I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.
13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

[PreacherOfTruth]

Re: Nothing But The Truth!

It has already been pointed out that you did not quote the whole verse. Don't get all uppity.

Brother Zech has already posted the part you omitted, please don't act like a little baby.

YiC
DAM

Then I did not misquote what I did not quote.

[PreacherOfTruth]

Re: Nothing But The Truth!

You don't seem like too bad of a guy, what's with all the hostility?

YiC
DAM

You said

"misunderstanding the Bible'

How did I misunderstand the bible by quoting some verse from it? I sure want to know how you can come to that conclusion.

I believe you need to put me back in the green where I rightfully belong.

[Donovan A. Mordecai]

Re: Nothing But The Truth!

Instead of typing "Matthew, Chapter 7, 12" format it like "Matthew 7:12" so that people can hover their cursor over it to check a verse.

And hey, lookee there: you omitted part of the verse!

(Matthew 7:12) "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets."

Why would you just arbitrarily chop "for this is the law and the prophets" from your post?

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

Since you seem incapable of finding it for yourself, I have quoted it here for your convenience

God Bless
DAM

[Donovan A. Mordecai]

Re: Nothing But The Truth!

"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them" I do not see 1 word that I omitted from what I quoted. If you see it, please post it.

It has already been pointed out that you did not quote the whole verse. Don't get all uppity.

Brother Zech has already posted the part you omitted, please don't act like a little baby.

YiC
DAM

[PreacherOfTruth]

Re: Nothing But The Truth!

Look up above: it's all right there (omission is misquoting, BTW).

Also, please post one of your sermons here: I'm sure we'd all love to see it.

YiC,

Zech

"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them" I do not see 1 word that I omitted from what I quoted. If you see it, please post it.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Nothing But The Truth!

Well for starters what part of the verse you said I misquoted did I misquote?

Post the words here.

Look up above: it's all right there (omission is misquoting, BTW).

Also, please post one of your sermons here: I'm sure we'd all love to see it.

YiC,

Zech

[PreacherOfTruth]

Re: Nothing But The Truth!

Please, feel free to point out where any True Christian™ has made a mistake, particularly one as grievous as the one you made (misquoting Scripture).

Maybe in your frantic internet searches of Bible verses you ran across this one:

(Revelation 22:19) "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

You aren't going to Google your way to Salvation, son: you'll have to put in the work. Read the Bible cover-to-cover, that's the only way to truly know God's Word.



YiC,

Zech

Well for starters what part of the verse you said I misquoted did I misquote?

Post the words here.

[Donovan A. Mordecai]

Re: Nothing But The Truth!

This will address many of your concerns READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

As of this moment you are a guest here, not a member, and not a True Christian™.

Your complaints fall upon deaf ears, and you will not be able to cherry pick The Bible to justify yourself

Hebrews 12:8

But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

I would see this as an opportunity to grow with The Lord, not as one to wantonly issue criticism and spite

Yours in Christ
DAM