[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Yet Another Shocking New Non Religious Member.

Atheists have no morals because they have no religion. This one is no exception. Let's count his lies.

I am not here to tell you your wrong

Yet, your post says we are wrong over and over again. LIE #1

#2: I Base my beliefs on what science has proven and not what is written in a several thousand year old book.

A lot of science is written in books that are over 1000 years old. LIE #2 And you base your believes on what people around you told you, you seldom actually read the scientific papers behind those scientific theories. LIE #3

#3: I believe that women and children are all equal and should be treated equally. (regardless of there ethnic origins or sexual orientation)

Yet you often treat them differently both consciously and subconsciously. Something you would have known if you actually studied the science between these phenomena. LIE #4

#4: I am not here to say your wrong or spread hate (I only wish that religious and non religious community's would live together happily and without consistent hate)

You're saying we are wrong over and over again. LIE #5

#5: Don't try and convert me it wont happen. (no I was not abused or forced to be atheist it was my choice and mine alone if god wishes to punish me for being myself then so be it I will face hell and all the horrors that await me there proud in knowing that I made a choice and that I stood by it)

You didn't invent Atheism. Others taught you about it and manipulated you into believing it's the truth. LIE #6

I have a challenge for you. Can you make a single post that doesn't contain any lies? I predict you will fail since lying is second nature for Atheists because they have no morals.

[winstonthewhiner]

Re: New Non Religious Member.

There are some atheist that are oblivious to the fact that they are not-knowingly worshiping Satan, but Satan is their master all the same as with those atheists that openly worship Satan.

No, you don't get it. Atheists do not worship satan. Neither knowingly nor unknowingly. They worship noone.

You may be unable to live without the illusion that somebody guides you through life, but that doesn't mean everybody else needs that. People are different. And if this wasn't the case, life would be so dull.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: New Non Religious Member.

No, you don't get it. Atheists do not worship satan. Neither knowingly nor unknowingly. They worship noone.

Not so.

Rom 1:21-23, 25
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
[. . .]
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

If you know God exists (and you do) yet don't acknowledge Him, you worship created things instead of the Creator. You may worship nature, money, yourself, whatever, but everyone worships something, and if you're not worshipping God, ultimately you're worshipping satan.

You may be unable to live without the illusion that somebody guides you through life, but that doesn't mean everybody else needs that. People are different. And if this wasn't the case, life would be so dull.

But all of us Christians are being transformed into the same image, the image of Jesus. And we're not dull.

2 Cor 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

[winstonthewhiner]

Re: New Non Religious Member.

Not so.

If you know God exists (and you do)

That is wrong. I am sure there is no god. I may use expressions like god damn it and to hell with this, but not because I am religious. These are just words that allow me to get rid of some steam, so to speak, which I use because of habit (I was raised catholic, as you know if you read my first post here) but they do not imply I believe there is an immortal and omnipotent being that controls everything. An all powerful being is a contradiction in terms, I am sure you have heard something like 'if there was an omnipotent god, he could make or could not make a stone he can't lift. If he can, there is something he can't do, namely lift that stone and then he's not all powerful and if he can't then he's not all powerful'.

yet don't acknowledge Him, you worship created things instead of the Creator.

ou may worship nature, money, yourself, whatever, but everyone worships something,

Sure, some people worship money and cannot get enough of it, even though they can't spend what they have in a lifetime.

Admittedly, I like having money to a certain degree, but I don't deem it THE holy thing. I enjoy walks in the forest and at the coast, but that does not mean I worship it like a deity. People can be very enthusiastic about their hobbies or a beloved person. Does that mean they worship them? No.

and if you're not worshipping God, ultimately you're worshipping satan.

Ok, nature was created by man, as stated in the book Genesis (God created all the plants, the oceans, the animals). Let's say they worship nature. Which is god's creation according to you. Then how is worshipping a creation made by god, not the devil, worshipping satan?

Atheists have no morals because they have no religion.

That is wrong. I personally consider Kant's categorical imperative the basis of my morals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative

Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law.

I think this will work out fine. And it even agrees with the bible and the ten commandments in some places.

Thou shalt not murder - I don't want people to go around murdering other people and ultimately murdering me - fulfilled
Thou shalt not steal - Same as with murder
Thou shalt not cheat (commit adultery) - see above.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor - see above.

I think this imperative provides a splendid basis to organize living together in our society. And all without religion. Isn't it nice? Instead of ten commandments, you can break it down to a single one. Don't you see the beauty in something like that?

A lot of science is written in books that are over 1000 years old.

What kind of science? History probably, theology quite sure, literature, yes, but modern natural sciences and engineering? They need more accurate sources than the holy bible to invent new treatments and construct bridges.

[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

Re: New Non Religious Member.

Don't be silly. You are with Jesus or against Him.
Those that are against Jesus are automatically satanic.

Amen, Brother!

[Darwin's Disciple]

Re: Yet Another Shocking New Non Religious Member.

I hope one day you do choose the Lord, like I have, yet I respect that you are an atheist. I was an atheist, which was a byproduct of my occupation within the sciences, but I found God and am at peace with Him. I joined this site to learn more about Jesus and religion as you have and my wishes are for both of us to discover the path of enlightenment.

I believe no one can determine who will be condemned to to the pits of Hell or to the glorious heights of Heaven, the only one who holds this power is God. Despite this, it seems that your rejection of God may be an indication of you straying towards the route to Hell, yet as I said, only God will be able to decide.

God Bless you.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Yet Another Shocking New Non Religious Member.

I hope one day you do choose the Lord, like I have, yet I respect that you are an atheist. I was an atheist, which was a byproduct of my occupation within the sciences, but I found God and am at peace with Him. I joined this site to learn more about Jesus and religion as you have and my wishes are for both of us to discover the path of enlightenment.

I believe no one can determine who will be condemned to to the pits of Hell or to the glorious heights of Heaven, the only one who holds this power is God. Despite this, it seems that your rejection of God may be an indication of you straying towards the route to Hell, yet as I said, only God will be able to decide.

God Bless you.

The Holy Bible does not indicate in any way that atheist scum deserve respect. Quite the contrary.

"Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds" -- 2 John 1:9-11

[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

Re: Yet Another Shocking New Non Religious Member.

The Holy Bible does not indicate in any way that atheist scum deserve respect. Quite the contrary.

So right you are...why would I ever respect someone who hate the Holy Father and tries to deceive others into thinking there is no evidence for His existence? It takes a blind and dull mind to look at all the wonders He has bestowed upon us and say there is no need to attribute these to the One True God.

The atheist swine have pride in their hearts and refuse to grovel before their Creator, seeking to repent for their sinful nature.

That they say they do not worship Satan and his minions is staggering, and an insult to the superior mind of the true believer. Praise God for giving us the ability to see through this guise, that tricks so many weak-minded fools.

Atheists, we know what you are and you know what you are...do not try to fool us ...you will be schooled at every turn for your wicked foolishness, as this thread has thus far so brilliantly demonstrated.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Yet Another Shocking New Non Religious Member.

God tells us to shun atheists in large part to preserve our anal virginity.

Some of us had to learn the hard way.

[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

Re: Yet Another Shocking New Non Religious Member.

God tells us to shun atheists in large part to preserve our anal virginity.

Some of us had to learn the hard way.

Yes how true, I clench uncontrollably every time I think of a world so filled with sodomites.

I am glad to find a hatred and loathing for the fudge packing sissy-boys here...how refreshing in a world that seems to be so increasingly tolerant of butt-pirates.

[Thomas Taylor]

Re: Yet Another Shocking New Non Religious Member.

Yes how true, I clench uncontrollably every time I think of a world so filled with sodomites.

I am glad to find a hatred and loathing for the fudge packing sissy-boys here...how refreshing in a world that seems to be so increasingly tolerant of butt-pirates.

Son, it's not that we hate the starfish stabbers, God does and all we are doing is following His instruction. Same with Ethiopians:

Zephaniah 1:12:

Ye Ethiopians also, ye shalbe slaine by my sword