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[one_young_man]

Name: One Young Man
Church: A Flock Without a Shepard Ministry
Favorite Verses:

Mark 14:51-52
And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked.


Mark 16:5-6
As they entered the tomb, they saw a young man dressed in a white robe sitting on the right side, and they were alarmed. “Don’t be alarmed,” he said. “You are looking for Jesus the Nazarene, who was crucified. He has risen! He is not here. See the place where they laid him.

[Zechariah Smyth]

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Glory!



Tell me friend, what is it about these particular verses that makes you jump up and down, filled with the love of Jesus? Be specific!

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

P.S. Please use the KJV for all biblical quotes.

[John Creeser]

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Name: One Young Man
Church: A Flock Without a Shepard Ministry
Favorite Verses:

Mark 14:51-52
And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked.


Mark 16:5-6
As they entered the tomb, they saw a young man dressed in a white robe sitting on the right side, and they were alarmed. “Don’t be alarmed,” he said. “You are looking for Jesus the Nazarene, who was crucified. He has risen! He is not here. See the place where they laid him.

Thank you for your brief introduction. Please be aware if you continue to post from any other Bible besides the KJV1611, you will receive an infraction.

[Esther B.]

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Welcome! It's so nice to see someone following the instructions at the top of the page!

[one_young_man]

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I am not as adept at Scripture as many of your site's members clearly are, so I will not attempt to provide any supporting KJV Biblical references, but, if you don't mind, briefly explain my fascination of the above text.

These verses have always seemed very strange to me - and with that have provided me with great curiosity. Who is this man? Why has Mark, or the Holy Spirit, not provided us a name or identity for this individual. The use of the phrase "a young man" seems to be deliberately displayed in both chapters. Why? For my Christian studies have informed me that the latter mention of the young man is actually an angel appearing to Mary to inform her of the Lord's resurrection. But I am not prone to speculation since this is only revealed in later Gospels whereby the Evangelists specifically describe the man (or men) of the tomb as angels. And elsewhere in the Gospel Mark, too, clearly defines entities as angels (i.e., Mark 1:13) - why is this title not specificity bestowed upon the man of the tomb?

For me these have always been symbolic verses. Specifically, the young man presents us with baptismal symbolism. The young man, in both verses, represents the same individual. In the first instance, the young man symbolizes the pre-baptized beast of the wild - unsheathing himself in preparation for the blessing he is about to receive. This event coincides with the precise moment Jesus is seized for crucifixion and thus the precursor to the fulfillment of the Scriptures. Through his death and ultimate resurrection, the prophecy has been fulfilled and the salvation of humanity solidified. Thus, the young man at the tomb represents the baptized Christian. He is once again fully clothed in white and is filled with the knowledge of the risen Lord.

The transformation Jesus undergoes through death and resurrection, is emblematic of everyone's transformation that occurs during this sacrament. Hence, we all begin as the young man in Gethsemane: lost, confused and running naked. But, we all end as the young man in the tomb: saved and filled with the knowledge of Jesus Christ.

Now, I know many of you here are not open to interpretation and prefer to take the Scripture as verbatim, but for me this is one of the most underestimated and beautiful examples of literary symbolism in the New Testament.

[James Hutchins]

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Welcome friend, how often has your wife laid a son on the feet of God as proof of your families devotion?

[Zechariah Smyth]

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Let me ask you this: if you have a shop manual that tell you precisely how to adjust the Rochester 3G Tri-Power carburetors on a '65 GTO, would you feel the need to "interpret" those steps?



Do you think your GTO would be running any better by leaving out some steps and adding some others and generally just doing what you think feels right?

YiC,

Zech

[Mary Etheldreda]

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I am not as adept at Scripture as many of your site's members clearly are, so I will not attempt to provide any supporting KJV Biblical references, but, if you don't mind, briefly explain my fascination of the above text....we all begin as the young man in Gethsemane: lost, confused and running naked. But, we all end as the young man in the tomb: saved and filled with the knowledge of Jesus Christ.

You are not familiar with Scripture and yet you assume it means this? This doesn't even make sense, dear. No wonder you're so confused. I would suggest you stop inventing theology and simply read the Holy Bible and learn what the LORD Himself actually says.

[John Creeser]

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I am not as adept at Scripture as many of your site's members clearly are, so I will not attempt to provide any supporting KJV Biblical references, but, if you don't mind, briefly explain my fascination of the above text.

These verses have always seemed very strange to me - and with that have provided me with great curiosity. Who is this man? Why has Mark, or the Holy Spirit, not provided us a name or identity for this individual. The use of the phrase "a young man" seems to be deliberately displayed in both chapters. Why? For my Christian studies have informed me that the latter mention of the young man is actually an angel appearing to Mary to inform her of the Lord's resurrection. But I am not prone to speculation since this is only revealed in later Gospels whereby the Evangelists specifically describe the man (or men) of the tomb as angels. And elsewhere in the Gospel Mark, too, clearly defines entities as angels (i.e., Mark 1:13) - why is this title not specificity bestowed upon the man of the tomb?

For me these have always been symbolic verses. Specifically, the young man presents us with baptismal symbolism. The young man, in both verses, represents the same individual. In the first instance, the young man symbolizes the pre-baptized beast of the wild - unsheathing himself in preparation for the blessing he is about to receive. This event coincides with the precise moment Jesus is seized for crucifixion and thus the precursor to the fulfillment of the Scriptures. Through his death and ultimate resurrection, the prophecy has been fulfilled and the salvation of humanity solidified. Thus, the young man at the tomb represents the baptized Christian. He is once again fully clothed in white and is filled with the knowledge of the risen Lord.

The transformation Jesus undergoes through death and resurrection, is emblematic of everyone's transformation that occurs during this sacrament. Hence, we all begin as the young man in Gethsemane: lost, confused and running naked. But, we all end as the young man in the tomb: saved and filled with the knowledge of Jesus Christ.

Now, I know many of you here are not open to interpretation and prefer to take the Scripture as verbatim, but for me this is one of the most underestimated and beautiful examples of literary symbolism in the New Testament.

It's true that only Mark mentions this. So who is this young man? Truth be told, the Holy Ghost chose to leave him nameless, so we don't know. However, this event is recorded for a reason, a good one since it’s the Word of God!

Less thinking, more worship.

[one_young_man]

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Maybe. If the manual in question was one of many versions (NIV, NASB, ASB, KJV, NKJV, DRV, etc.), originally translated from Greek to Latin and then finally (1,000 years after it was originally written) into English (and whose instructions altered slightly with each translation), was subject to both accidental / human error (caused by ancient techniques used to translate and copy texts from one medium to the next) and intentional interpolation, while also containing inconsistencies within it's own version?

Yes, if my Rochester 3G tri-power carburetor's instructional manual fell victim to any of the above, then I would consider interperating its recommendation for proper calibration and float adjustment.

[John Creeser]

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Maybe. If the manual in question was one of many versions (NIV, NASB, ASB, KJV, NKJV, DRV, etc.), originally translated from Greek to Latin and then finally (1,000 years after it was originally written) into English (and whose instructions altered slightly with each translation), was subject to both accidental / human error (caused by ancient techniques used to translate and copy texts from one medium to the next) and intentional interpolation, while also containing inconsistencies within it's own version?

Yes, if my Rochester 3G tri-power carburetor's instructional manual fell victim to any of the above, then I would consider interperating its recommendation for proper calibration and float adjustment.

And that is precisely why we only quote from the inerrant and infallible King James Version of the Bible. All others will send you to hell because as you mentioned above, they stray from the original Word and God says that is unacceptable;

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.


And my favorite regarding the subject of mincing God's Holy Word;

Galatians 1:7-9
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

[one_young_man]

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You are not familiar with Scripture and yet you assume it means this? This doesn't even make sense, dear. No wonder you're so confused. I would suggest you stop inventing theology and simply read the Holy Bible and learn what the LORD Himself actually says.

Well, I didn't say I was not familiar with the Scripture. Only that I am not well versed in Scripture enough to quote specific passages as many of this site's members clearly are.

But thank you for your kind response and recommendation.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Well, I didn't say I was not familiar with the Scripture. Only that I am not well versed in Scripture enough to quote specific passages as many of this site's members clearly are.

But thank you for your kind response and recommendation.

The more familiar you are with Scripture, the more you'll see how silly your little theory is. And you're welcome.

[John Creeser]

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So young man, let's just cut to the chase. Do you believe Jesus Christ is your personal Savior? Do you believe sinners go to hell for eternity and that the Saved will sit at the right hand of Jesus himself?

I await your response.

[James Hutchins]

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Maybe. If the manual in question was one of many versions (NIV, NASB, ASB, KJV, NKJV, DRV, etc.), originally translated from Greek to Latin and then finally (1,000 years after it was originally written) into English (and whose instructions altered slightly with each translation), was subject to both accidental / human error (caused by ancient techniques used to translate and copy texts from one medium to the next) and intentional interpolation, while also containing inconsistencies within it's own version?

Yes, if my Rochester 3G tri-power carburetor's instructional manual fell victim to any of the above, then I would consider interperating its recommendation for proper calibration and float adjustment.

Friend, you are deluded. No offense intended.

You cannot make stuff up and be believable. Simply not possible. Everyone would have an opinion and no understanding could ever come of it. This is why God Himself oversaw the creation of the KJV1611 Holy Bible. No where in it does it tell you all the guidance in it is 'mere suggestion' and to 'please feel free to make anything up as you go along'.

If everyting was so simple that even a person like you could figure it out (tell me, how would you balance the tri-power?) then why have all the scientists in the world, for 1,000's of years, not been able to explation creation with anything better than 'it was an accident'? Truth be told, every accident I have had, things turned out for the worse. Do you think we are for the worse?