[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Maybe this time...

Mary, I honor and respect your diligence to the word and realize you are concerned about my eternity but I feel that over time the word has got twisted and mistranslated. I don't think a loving God could condemn his creation to hell based on trivial issues such as geography and sexual preferences.

Again, you're confused about the very Nature and Character of the LORD. He isn't loving to everyone, dear. Jesus Himself makes it very clear that the LORD will love he who first loves Jesus (John 14:23). The LORD makes it very clear Himself that He hates those who offend Him through sin (Psalm 5:5). In this sense, condemning creation to Hell is like condemning a child rapist to jail. Justice only feels bad to the person who got caught, and rest assured, everyone who sins against the LORD will get caught.

But you say things like geography and sexual preferences are trivial. Where in the Bible do you find support for this? Does the LORD Himself not say He controls all things, than nothing is done without His approval (Lamentations 3:37)? Does the LORD Himself not warn the homosexuals that poking each other in the bum makes him want to puke (Leviticus 18:22), that He won't mourn their damnation (Leviticus 20:13)? It's not like He's playing a game of "gotcha" here. He's very forthcoming in His Word, and this Word is all we have to know about His Will and Desire.

Don't you think that man has had an agenda and something to gain by twisting scripture? Please don't take this the wrong way as I'm just being honest and open.

I appreciate your honesty and openness. I think your sincerity is the only thing that can save you from your pride. Yes, I do think man has had an agenda and something to gain by twisting Scripture. It's called Pride, and that also makes the LORD divinely disgusted (Proverbs 16:5). It's the idea that man can know the Mind and Heart of God better than God Almighty Himself can know it. It's the idea that man can know what's morally good without the insight of the LORD. It's the very thing Eve tricked Adam with - the idea that man can know right and wrong without having to rely solely on God (Genesis 3:6). Is this your agenda, too? Look deeply into your heart dear. Do you also seek to assume you know better than the LORD, as revealed in the Holy Bible, what is Good and what is Bad?

What about the gospel of Judas?? That never made it in and some speculate Jesus and Judas were lovers.

What about L. Ron Hubbard? That never made it into the Bible and he thought there are invisible, intangible things called "thetans" that animate a man's conscience and will.

Jealous?!?! Ughh, how is that even possible- he created us! Besides, if he was jealous then he must have other human emotions such as uncertainty but since he is all knowing that can't be the case. I think the meaning of the word jealousy is being misunderstood here.

You might find that by reading the Holy Bible, you'll know who God really is. Didy is just a foul atheist, but he knows the Holy Bible because he's read it. I'm sorry to be the one to tell you, but he is right.

[endofdays]

Re: Maybe this time...

Pastor Ed!- PLEASE don't say that about me!!! I'm feeling bad enough now as it is, I expected a peace to come over me during my walk but felt condemned instead. Maybe I did open the doorway to the darkside and allow evil in but that's not what I want. My carnal mind sickens me and I strive to be pure and righteous.

Mary, I hate to break it to you but morality doesn't come from God. I had atheist friends who knew not to kill and steal. Even in my days of sin I knew right from wrong. Also, throwing scripture verses at me will NOT change my mind, I've studied scripture in my early days and that's partly why I left the church. If the christians here really want to make a change they need to level using 21st century logic.

I came here for support and encouragement, if I want to be preached at I can just go to church. Can we please talk about ways to overcome temptation and how to prove the bible is true instead?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Maybe this time...

Mary, I hate to break it to you but morality doesn't come from God. I had atheist friends who knew not to kill and steal. Even in my days of sin I knew right from wrong. Also, throwing scripture verses at me will NOT change my mind

This is precisely how con men (short for "confidence men") gain your confidence, dear. They show you the things you want to see. Atheists are no more trustworthy than child rapists, and don't just take my word for it. The good people of these Godly United States knows not to trust the dirty atheist. Why, just look at meek and seemingly harmless Bill Nye, the guy who made geek "cool." After spending years to gain the trust of decent and moral Christians by showing the mechanics of the LORD's wonderful creation through observational science, he now makes a living bullying decent people, people who are not willing to drink the secular kool-aide, Christians who are willing to take upon themselves the persecution of these soulless monsters.

Bill Nye "Science Guy" Leads The Bully Brigade Against Those Who Dare Question The Scientific Faith

It seems to me you've not only opened your home to them, you've opened your heart. This shall be your own undoing (Leviticus 10:10).

[Russell Holbeck]

Re: Maybe this time...

Hello endofdays.

I do not believe you are telling the truth. I do not think that you want to come back to Jesus and accept His conditions. I do not believe that you joined two other Christian forums. I have read your original post and the later posts many times and I think that you are here to be mean and sarcastic and to pick things apart and to argue.

I have some cognitive problems from an accident but if I read something several times and think about it then read it several more times I can figure things out that is the way I read the Bible If I am wrong about you I apologize I do want you to go to Heaven.

Thank you.

Rusty

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Maybe this time...

Can we please talk about ways to overcome temptation and how to prove the bible is true instead?

God promises us that we can overcome temptation if we do it His way:

[1 Corinthians 10:13 KJV] 13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it].

Doing it His way means walking in the Spirit and resisting the devil:

[Galatians 5:16 KJV] 16 [This] I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

[James 4:7 KJV] 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

If you have such a difficult time with temptation, perhaps you are not walking in the Spirit and resisting the devil.

As for proof that the Bible is true, we know that the Bible is true because it says so right in the Bible:

[2 Timothy 3:16 KJV] 16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

[endofdays]

Re: Maybe this time...

It's funny, I get the impression that if I do go to hell the majority of christians will consider it true justice. To be honest I don't even want to live eternally, I just want to sleep peacefully. I might as well not even try to be a christian because God must know my true motive is fear of hell- not a desire to go to heaven. To be honest your music sucks, church is boring, you always need money and your potlucks aint all that good. Oh, one last thing- you preachers, your daughters really are freaks in the sheets.

[Wide-Open]

Re: Maybe this time...

To be honest your music sucks

Are you seriously saying you don't like Roper Crossburn?

The nerve!

[see_the_light]

Re: Maybe this time...

It's funny, I get the impression that if I do go to hell the majority of christians will consider it true justice. To be honest I don't even want to live eternally, I just want to sleep peacefully.

Some quick reflections for you:

1. If you do go to hell, then GOD has sent you to hell, GOD is your sole rightful owner, disobey HIS rules and it is the most perfect of justices that you end up in hell. You only have to make sure that you have behaved in such a way that you are given to JESUS.

John 6:39

And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

If on the other hand you spit on sweet JESUS you may forget any good night sleep, then you're satan's and he'll go medieval on your sensitive parts just on general principle.

I might as well not even try to be a christian because God must know my true motive is fear of hell- not a desire to go to heaven.

Fear of hell is GOOD!, That's the proof of GOD's generosity, a fool's proof guide to salvation don't do X this will end you ALWAYS in hell. Even a dimwit can get the rules and follow them, and any concerned TRUE CHRISTIAN can add a rod to a proper education to make sure it get into ANYONE's skull. Only twisted hell-bent sinners choose that path (even YOU know the way and the pitfalls).

To be honest your music sucks, church is boring, you always need money and your potlucks aint all that good. Oh, one last thing- you preachers, your daughters really are freaks in the sheets.

Well, this doesn't read well as something from somebody truly seeking salvation. Your insults we cherish because they only make our faith stronger, but your pride and disdain for GOD's gift will surely be your downfall if you don't repent and make amends.

BTW, we don't care where in hell you end up, it's only up to JESUS and you, but we have the obligation to rebuke you on your errors.

In the unlikely case of your sins being cleaned by the blood of JESUS, I will rejoice for then you'll be my brother in CHRIST, until then accept my disdain for your sinful attitude.

PRAISE THE LORD!

P.S. And drop your "pimp my god" idea, GOD is like a Ford T, "Any customer can have a car painted any colour that he wants so long as it is black.", So if it's not the Full KJV 1611 GOD you ain't getting it.

[endofdays]

Re: Maybe next time my attempted troll will be more believable

Sometimes my anger gets the best of me and I say things I don't mean. I've asked forgiveness for what I typed and now I am here to apologize. I just get so frustrated at times at the way life is these days and feel hopeless. I will watch my tongue and try to be more positive. I'm angry and resentful that I was raised in a non christian home and feel like I missed out on so much growing up and into early adulthood. To this day my mom is still an atheist and won't even consider christianity. She thinks I'm crazy for being a christian and it's tearing the family apart.

[see_the_light]

Re: Maybe next time my attempted troll will be more believable

Sometimes my anger gets the best of me and I say things I don't mean. I've asked forgiveness for what I typed and now I am here to apologize. I just get so frustrated at times at the way life is these days and feel hopeless. I will watch my tongue and try to be more positive. I'm angry and resentful that I was raised in a non christian home and feel like I missed out on so much growing up and into early adulthood. To this day my mom is still an atheist and won't even consider christianity. She thinks I'm crazy for being a christian and it's tearing the family apart.

Did you think JESUS was joking?

Luke 14:26

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Matthew 10:34

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

If ANY of your so-called family does not belong to JESUS, then they deserve (in your heart) nothing but GOD's ratified hate.

PRAISE THE LORD!

[endofdays]

Re: Maybe next time my attempted troll will be more believable

Wow- I'm on this forum less than a day and I receive two infractions for just being myself!?!? And then to label me as unsaved trash when I've been trying so hard to live for God!! You christians these days are worse than I remember.

No offense to any christians here... but I do not like christianity for this very reason..

I realize you guys mean well but show some compassion like your christ shows. How is handing out infractions going to win the lost? Please, if any pastors read this reach out to the flock and set them straight. we are to love one another as he loved us..The world persecutes us christians enough as it is, us brothers and sisters ic christ need to stick together and build eachother up!! I'm sure that the pastors here will agree with me- PLEASE pastor ED, Ezekiel and Issac- remember me are Gods children and we all bleed the same

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Maybe next time my attempted troll will be more believable

I rededicated my life to the lord when I got home

I do not like christianity for this very reason

Boy, that escalated quickly.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Maybe next time my attempted troll will be more believable

...I receive two infractions for just being myself...

BIBLE. READ IT.

Seriously, read the Gospels you're so fond of misrepresenting. See how much of the time Jesus spends telling EVERYONE (including His mother) how they're doing pretty much EVERYTHING wrong. Frankly, from the amount of sarcasm, ridicule and abuse He throws their way, you'd think He picked His disciples for comic relief.

...I realize you guys mean well but show some compassion like your christ shows...

Jesus in a nutshell: "Do exactly as I tell you or suffer the consequences".

That's compassion?

[Des]

Re: Maybe next time my attempted troll will be more believable

Jesus in a nutshell: "Do exactly as I tell you or suffer the consequences".

That's compassion?

Yes, yes it is! Jesus loves you and wants you to end your sinning ways. He loves you so much that he temporarily died for your sins. That's compassion for you right there.

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: Maybe next time my attempted troll will be more believable

It's funny, I get the impression that if I do go to hell the majority of christians will consider it true justice. To be honest I don't even want to live eternally, I just want to sleep peacefully. I might as well not even try to be a christian because God must know my true motive is fear of hell- not a desire to go to heaven. To be honest your music sucks, church is boring, you always need money and your potlucks aint all that good. Oh, one last thing- you preachers, your daughters really are freaks in the sheets.

This is how you really feel. Feels good to finally just come out and admit you hate Jesus, no?

Sometimes my anger gets the best of me and I say things I don't mean. I've asked forgiveness for what I typed and now I am here to apologize. I just get so frustrated at times at the way life is these days and feel hopeless. I will watch my tongue and try to be more positive. I'm angry and resentful that I was raised in a non christian home and feel like I missed out on so much growing up and into early adulthood. To this day my mom is still an atheist and won't even consider christianity. She thinks I'm crazy for being a christian and it's tearing the family apart.

No. What you mean is that you WISH you regretted what you typed (above) and wish you really wanted Jesus, but instead, you know you don't. So you boil over inside at your unwillingness to surrender to Jesus' Marvelous Sacrifice™.

Sometimes Jesus calls us out even when we think we are following him (see Mark 8:31-33). Sounds like you are a house divided. Therefore, you cannot stand (Mark 3:20-27; Luke 11:14-23).

Wow- I'm on this forum less than a day and I receive two infractions for just being myself!?!? And then to label me as unsaved trash when I've been trying so hard to live for God!! You christians these days are worse than I remember.

No offense to any christians here... but I do not like christianity for this very reason..

I realize you guys mean well but show some compassion like your christ shows. How is handing out infractions going to win the lost? Please, if any pastors read this reach out to the flock and set them straight. we are to love one another as he loved us..The world persecutes us christians enough as it is, us brothers and sisters ic christ need to stick together and build eachother up!! I'm sure that the pastors here will agree with me- PLEASE pastor ED, Ezekiel and Issac- remember me are Gods children and we all bleed the same

You are not acting like a Child of God at all, just a whining, simpering, conflicted homer. Stop whining and repent...

Revelation 3:19: As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Regards,

Pastor Ed