[Didymus Much]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

...There are things in Buddhism I agree with whole-heartedly. There are things in Confucianism I agree with whole-heartedly...

So what do you disagree with, with regard to the teachings of Buddhism and Confucianism?

And why aren't you off pestering them?

[see_the_light]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

Things that contradict I obviously don't believe simultaneously.

And how do you (cherry) pick?

And by what authority or mandate?

PRAY TO JESUS!

[disgusting filthy dirty hippie (Quarantined)]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

....nor your American flag decal.....
....and try not to be too high when you do since that makes you gay and invites demonic possession.

First point: I assure you Morton, I have no such decal. I would never own anything that ties me to the horrible country I reside.

Second point: I would very much like to know how, first, weed makes me gay, and second, how weed invites demons. Please back up with scripture.

[see_the_light]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

First point: I assure you Morton, I have no such decal. I would never own anything that ties me to the horrible country I reside.

Second point: I would very much like to know how, first, weed makes me gay, and second, how weed invites demons. Please back up with scripture.

Matthew 13:37-38

He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

Tare being weed in case you're analphabet.

The wicked one satan himself.

If you invite satan, you invite his demons and his abominations.

PRAY TO JESUS!

[disgusting filthy dirty hippie (Quarantined)]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

You're right, "tare" is weed. But it is not marijuana.

Tare refers to any of various weedy plants of the genus Vicia, especially the common vetch.

It is a weed, but it's the kind you pull out of gardens, not smoke.

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

You're right, "tare" is weed. But it is not marijuana.

Tare refers to any of various weedy plants of the genus Vicia, especially the common vetch.

It is a weed, but it's the kind you pull out of gardens, not smoke.

My dear hippie,

You are using a fallacy called equivocation. You take the Wikipedia definition of "tare" and assume that that's it, no other definitions needed. You're satisfied and feel victorious.

The world and God's True Word are not that easy to unravel.

First, we have the dictionary (Merriam-Webster, if you think it is deficient, please, contact the publisher and sue them) definition: "a weed of grain fields especially of Biblical times that is usually held to be the darnel (that's a kind of hay of Poaceae family)." What this means is: tare is a weed of grain, i.e., it is harmful when you're growing actual food and not only trying to get high. Before God provided us with pesticides, there were, however, many harmful weeds of grain. Cannabis is one of them.

I refer you to a modern study on the nature of Cannabis sativa.
Reisinger P et al. 2005: Competitiveness and precision management of the noxious weed Cannabis sativa L. in winter wheat (this means "grain"). COMMUNICATIONS IN SOIL SCIENCE AND PLANT ANALYSIS 36, 629-634. They say, e.g.: "Wild hemp (Cannabis sativa ssp. spontanea) is a rapidly spreading weed in Hungary that forms large and stable patches in most agricultural fields". Exactly what would be expected of the Biblical tare. Q.O.D.

Thus, we have:

Tare = use the definition that is Biblically relevant
->Tare = harmful weed of grain
Harmful weed of grain = Cannabis sativa.

Many people come here with confirmation bias, sure of their own ignorance and certain to win any debate. They come badly prepared and usually become easily irritated and end up in a tantrum because their one-sided notions are not accepted. You don't have to do that. You can accept that, in addition to your biased way of looking at things, other possibilities are open. Here's the most important of them:

1 Peter 2:15-16. Read it as well. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: As free, and not using [your] liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.

It is easy to fall into seeking only information that supports your flawed views (such as this tare issue). True maturity can come when you accept also data that are contrary to your skewed beliefs, embrace JESUS and learn a bit of humility. Until that time you're not very interesting for discussions!

Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[disgusting filthy dirty hippie (Quarantined)]

Re: Ignorant, Communist, Freedom-Hating Hippie

So because "tare," which refers to all weeds, therefore refers to marijuana, using a reference clearly not used at that time. Even if it was, weed did not grow in those regions at that time!!

Also, thank you for changing my name to redundant redundant redundant hippie.

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: Ignorant, Communist, Freedom-Hating Hippie

So because "tare," which refers to all weeds, therefore refers to marijuana, using a reference clearly not used at that time. Even if it was, weed did not grow in those regions at that time!!

Also, thank you for changing my name to redundant redundant redundant hippie.

You're welcome. Since your lifestyle is clearly a choice on your part, it only makes sense to call a spade a spade and let others know how your heathenish ways are best described.

Of course, should you choose to clean that lint out of your belly button, embrace Jesus Christ, and enlist in God's American Military (as well as show evidence of a changed life, accompanied by at least a Tin-level tithe offering to God's Favorite Church), then maybe we can discuss another username change?

It's all up to you, son. Always has been.

Psalm 86:11: Teach me thy way, O LORD; I will walk in thy truth: unite my heart to fear thy name.

Sincerely,

Pastor Ed

[Marko Loimaan-Aho]

Re: Ignorant, Communist, Freedom-Hating Hippie

So because "tare," which refers to all weeds, therefore refers to marijuana, using a reference clearly not used at that time. Even if it was, weed did not grow in those regions at that time!!

Also, thank you for changing my name to redundant redundant redundant hippie.

Seems to me that because you, Hippie, are high all the time, You don't see this real world very clearly. You think You know better than Bible what grew and did not grew in those regions at that time?

In addition to everything else, The Holy Bible is the best natural science book!!!

[Attila's Wife]

Re: Ignorant, Communist, Freedom-Hating Hippie

Even if it was, weed did not grow in those regions at that time!!

Putting 2 exclamation marks after such an assertion does not make it true. Source, please?

[disgusting filthy dirty hippie (Quarantined)]

Re: Ignorant, Communist, Freedom-Hating Hippie

Ed, I did not mean that my username change accurately reflects my lifestyle. It is hateful, unnecessary, and redundant, because the three words that replaced "dirty," which are "disgusting filthy dirty" are all basically the same.

Also, I shower three times a week and always do the laundry so I'm actually pretty clean!

To Marco, weed originated in China, and was not brought into the world until about 1500 A.D.

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Ignorant, Communist, Freedom-Hating Hippie

So because "tare," which refers to all weeds, therefore refers to marijuana, using a reference clearly not used at that time. Even if it was, weed did not grow in those regions at that time!!

My dear hippie,

The scripture that was quoted to you earlier by a True Christian (Matthew 13:37-38 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one) is not about any specific "species of plant" in the way secular godless scientists misuse the terminology. It is about harmful growth that suffocates and suppresses the growth of the desired outcome, the Kingdom of God. Any weed that prevents the spread of good seed is the "tare". It is not a biological species but a spiritual one, and thus Cannabis sativa is just a symbol of one of these spiritual bad seeds that infiltrate the fallen world of men, and you.

Regarding the possible presence of Cannabis (hemp, it does have proper uses also, such as cloth) in the region:

3000 BC in China.
1500 BC documents of Scythians (present day Iran and also wider regions - does that ring a Biblical bell?) using it.
600 BC in the region of modern Southern Russia.
And Plinius the Elder documented it in Rome (Sorry, but I think I have to mention the papist city).

All these regions have good land access to the Holy Land. Check the map.

Ephesians 4:18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:


In addition to avoiding confirmation bias, I suggest source criticism. After you've written a claim, please, check it. See if there's data supporting it. then, check if scripture supports it. Then re-write or - better till - re-consider if your views are flawed and if you should pray more, be less opinionated.


Yours,


Elmer

[Marko Loimaan-Aho]

Re: Ignorant, Communist, Freedom-Hating Hippie

To Marco, weed originated in China, and was not brought into the world until about 1500 A.D.

Poor High-on-drugs-Hippie: THE BIBLE is LORD'S HOLY WORD. I am just an ordinary peasant, Eskimo Savage from Finland but even I am sure that THE LORD knows WHAT HE HAS CREATED!

PRAISE THE LORD ALMIGHTY!!!

[disgusting filthy dirty hippie (Quarantined)]

Re: Ignorant, Communist, Freedom-Hating Hippie

I apologize for getting the facts wrong. I can no longer argue from that standpoint.

However, Elmer, you argued against me, saying that "tare" refers to plants that cause spiritual health to decrease.

One, this is different then what you first argued, but I'll let it slide.

Two, in what ways does weed degenerate spiritual or even physical health?

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Ignorant, Communist, Freedom-Hating Hippie

in what ways does weed degenerate spiritual or even physical health?

There's an excellent thread here at LBC for you to study.

In summary, it is a way to sodomy and physical breakdown, similar to other devious plans of SATAN.

I'm so happy you're reconsidering your position. Search the Forums, lots of help there!

Yours,

Elmer