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  • The Truth about Agnosticism and Atheism

    I've read so many untrue posts about agnostics and atheists that I wanted to clear some things up.

    Agnostics and atheists are not mentally ill, sadistic, satanist and depressed beings. They're normal people.

    I saw this one post where it said "do atheists really not believe in God?". Of course they don't!

    Atheists don't believe in God not because they're "blood-drinking sex-drugs-rock-and-roll" people who don't want to be controlled by a creator, but it's because they literally DO NOT THINK HE EVEN EXISTS AT ALL. Literally. They compare the evidence of science and the explaining of phenomenon or an event compared to the words of people saying that it's "magic" or "miracles". They simply dismiss your ideas as fairy-tales. So to incorrectly criticize a nonreligion is absolutely ignorant and bigoted.

    Agnostics can be almost exactly like an atheist, or the complete opposite. Some think that it's possible that they may physically find God, but because they haven't, they don't have a say. Others dismiss all claims about whether God exists or not because they don't see a way to prove either one, so they will stay in a stance to not be committed to anything. And they're not afraid to do that, because they're strong in their hearts for what they believe in.

    How do I know all this? I am an agnostic. I have atheist friends. I have Christian friends, Muslim friends, Jewish friends, Hindi friends, I even had a Mormon friend that I met online. I don't care what people spiritually believe in because it's not my life, but what I do care is correcting false opinions passing as true facts. We are not evil. Some atheists and possibly some agnostics in history were, but like any other religion, there's always a good amount of stupid people, because stupid people exist EVERYWHERE.

    "Atheists and agnostics are miserable". Well there probably is a little bit of truth to that, I can admit. We blame our actions on ourselves and the environment we are in, not God. When we screw up on something, the only thing that can forgive us, that we can fall back on and believe in is ourselves, and if you don't believe in yourself, then you're right, you're going to be depressed and miserable. That's why I think some people may or may not have the capability to think like us because they really would feel miserable, while others like me have a positive attitude on life, and if you keep that up, you're fine.

    And yes, we have morals and empathy. I know you people think that we don't, or we may not truly have the same morals, but we do. I would never steal or kill someone not because I don't want to get in trouble and get myself hurt, but it's literally sickening to my heart to do so. Since I don't believe in an afterlife, it's even worse for me to end the streaming consciousness of a living person with their own thoughts, memories and a loving family. They'd simply cease to exist in my beliefs. Stealing is wrong; why would I take something that would hurt the other person's feelings? It's distressing for not only them but for me to do that. The people that would steal or kill someone even if there were no laws would be a sociopath, and they exist in any form of religion or nonreligion, such as a muslim terrorist or a stalinist soldier.

    As for the part of going to Hell:

    Being an atheist means that this place doesn't exist, not because they're "spoiled brats", but because they believe that it isn't logical and scientifically factual that a place would exist for eternal torture simply because we haven't seen anything like that in our observed world. They see it manipulative to nonbelievers to be peer-pressured to join the religion out of fear, and if an atheist, or any nontheist were to believe in God, they would not believe that He would be this unforgiving to anyone because it doesn't seem reasonable.

    To an agnostic, it depends. Some of us don't believe in either, just like an atheist, and some of us think that God would be reasonable and if the person honestly lived an innocent life, they wouldn't go to Hell even if it does exist.

    So that's my spheel. If you delete this, you're being ignorant, foolish, and manipulative. I'm not being offensive or obscene. I'm stating facts for what atheists and agnostics think and believe in. You ask on forum posts what an atheist is like or why they're "this" and "that" (which are probably false accusations), so I'm answering them for you in the most unbiased way possible.

    Thank you for reading this post that will hopefully change somewhat about the way you think about us, because I fight for facts, not beliefs. Have a lovely day.

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    Re: The Truth about Agnosticism and Atheism

    tl:dr

    Who are you?



    Did it ever occur to you why this area of our friendly forum is called the Introduction Forum?

    I'll answer your questions when you abide by our few and reasonable rules.

    Yours in Christ,

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      Re: The Truth about Agnosticism and Atheism

      I'm introducing the truth to agnosticism and atheism.

      I'm just a man who wants to correct false facts about us by sharing my spheel.

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        Re: The Truth about Agnosticism and Atheism

        Originally posted by GullyBone View Post
        I'm introducing the truth to agnosticism and atheism.

        I'm just a man who wants to correct false facts about us by sharing my spheel.
        I'll be honest with you: I'm loathe to get the truth from someone who doesn't even know how to spell spiel. What other mistakes have you made (and I'm not even including your rejection of the conditional love of Jesus)?
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          Re: The Truth about Agnosticism and Atheism

          Originally posted by GullyBone View Post

          I saw this one post where it said "do atheists really not believe in God?". Of course they don't!
          Friend,

          Trust me when I say TRUE Christians(tm) know ALL about Atheism. All Atheists are is beard wearing, porn fancying scum who just love to sit around the intertubes all mocking other people's belief. Atheists in TRUTH(tm) believe God exists, after all the evidence for God's existence is overwhelming. They just pretend to say otherwise to make Christians angy.

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            Re: The Truth about Agnosticism and Atheism

            Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post
            Friend,

            Trust me when I say TRUE Christians™ know ALL about Atheism. All Atheists are is beard wearing, porn fancying scum who just love to sit around the intertubes all mocking other people's belief. Atheists in TRUTH™ believe God exists, after all the evidence for God's existence is overwhelming. They just pretend to say otherwise to make Christians angy.
            Yes, Brother, this is what I heard from the kind and always informative Kirk Cameron - Recovering Atheist. The way in which it works is this - the soul cries out for the LORD, as indeed all His creation knows He exists (Romans 1:20), and the atheist, hateful and spiteful and bitter and lonely, does his best to distract the soul with such things as ridicule and pornography.


            Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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              Re: The Truth about Agnosticism and Atheism

              Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post
              Friend,

              Trust me when I say TRUE Christians™ know ALL about Atheism. All Atheists are is beard wearing, porn fancying scum who just love to sit around the intertubes all mocking other people's belief. Atheists in TRUTH™ believe God exists, after all the evidence for God's existence is overwhelming. They just pretend to say otherwise to make Christians angry.
              Bobby-Joe,

              God's Holy Ghost inspired you to write this, brother. Gloria in the Highest, Almighty Savior and Soon-Coming King! Praises to my precious Lord! Our agnostic (heathen) friend spews forth much verbiage and yet so little meaning as he tries to convince himself that he is not headed for satan's barbecue and demonic bistro on Perdition Lane. My heart weeps for him and yet I also find it so hard to understand why in this age of knowledge that a person could ignore the evidence of our Lord's existence.

              I won't address this person directly because Jesus has given me divine unction to despise him in True Christian(TM) love. However, I will leave him with these words:

              Psalms 120:5
              Woe is me, that I soiourne in Mesech: that I dwell in the tents of Kedar.

              I don't see how much more clear our Lord can be.

              Faithfully in Christ,
              NRL
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                Re: The Truth about Agnosticism and Atheism

                tl;dr but the bits in bold and red stood out, so I assumed those are the mad, shouty, VERY IMPORTANT bits you want us to read.

                Originally posted by GullyBone View Post
                I have Christian friends, Muslim friends, Jewish friends, Hindi friends, I even had a Mormon friend that I met online.
                Hindi is a language, dear.

                So that's my spheel. If you delete this, you're being ignorant, foolish, and manipulative. I'm not being offensive or obscene. I'm stating facts for what atheists and agnostics think and believe in. You ask on forum posts what an atheist is like or why they're "this" and "that" (which are probably false accusations), so I'm answering them for you in the most unbiased way possible.
                So, one hilarious misspelling which indicates that you don't even know how to pronounce the word; one sentence of preemptive abuse (totally uncalled for, as it happens; why would anyone take the trouble to delete your post?); and yes, you are being offensive in the abusive content of the previous sentence.

                I'd pray for you but frankly I have more important people on my list.

                2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

                In His Name,
                AW
                2 Timothy 3:16

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                  Re: The Truth about Agnosticism and Atheism

                  THANK YOU!!!! Someone on this site who understands what athiesm/agnosticism is!
                  Rom.1:26-27
                  For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

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                    Re: The Truth about Agnosticism and Atheism

                    There's no point talking to these idiots. You can't educated a faggot and unfortunately, 99.9% of the people here are just that.
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                      Re: The Truth about Agnosticism and Atheism

                      Originally posted by lesdong chingchong View Post
                      There's no point talking to these idiots. You can't educated a faggot and unfortunately, 99.9% of the people here are just that.
                      I find it interesting that the atheist resorts to aggressive ad hominem attacks when his lies and deceptions aren't accepted.

                      May God have mercy on your soul.

                      But I doubt He will.

                      Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                        Re: The Truth about Agnosticism and Atheism

                        Originally posted by lesdong chingchong View Post
                        There's no point talking to these idiots. You can't educated a faggot and unfortunately, 99.9% of the people here are just that.
                        Wait a second. We hate the homers because God commands it.


                        Why do you hate them?
                        Who Will Jesus Damn?

                        Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                        Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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                          Re: The Truth about Agnosticism and Atheism

                          The introduction forum Attention Unsaved Trash: This the ONLY subforum you can start threads in. Here is where you introduce yourself. Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.

                          Do not let the demons that infest your brain spread horrible excretion through your fingers all over our Holy Boards. We are here to worship Jesus, not hear these Anti-Jesus (the most evil, vile thing possible) lies.
                          Thinking of Abortion?
                          That fetus will be in Hell, because they never had a chance to repent their sinful ways (Psalms 51:5) (1 Kings 8:46)
                          Think of the children. Stop being a slut.

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                            Re: The Truth about Agnosticism and Atheism

                            Originally posted by GullyBone View Post
                            I've read so many untrue posts about agnostics and atheists that I wanted to clear some things up.

                            Agnostics and atheists are not mentally ill, sadistic, satanist and depressed
                            If atheists were not insanely committed to sinning 24/7 they would not have needed to abandon the sole source of morality. God.

                            And with no moral compass abomination is all that remains. No wonder they're depressed!

                            EVIDENCE
                            Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. KJV

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                              Re: The Truth about Agnosticism and Atheism

                              Originally posted by lesdong chingchong View Post
                              You can't educated a faggot and unfortunately,
                              What a horrid thing to say. I suppose you hate black people, too.

                              Bastard.
                              A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. Proverbs 26:3

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