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I'm Maroney00, and if you haven't seem my other posts and determined for yourself, I'm not much of a religious type. What I'm looking for in this forum is to defend others like myself who may have misstated their points, or simply were not well-spoken enough to defend their fair notions on these sometimes brutal discussion boards (when deserving of help). In addition, I also look to have my conceptions regarding the Christian doctrine fairly and logically challenged by the more educated individuals of this community to be effectively enlightened. I hope for good, friendly discussion in the future.
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2 Thess 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. -
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So you are hear to spread the gospel of Satan?5 Reasons why GOD HATES WOMEN!
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How can we have a logical discussion when God is beyond all logic.Originally posted by Maroney00 View Post
1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
YIC1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.Comment
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One who does not believe in God cannot believe in Satan.
Why is He beyond all logic?
I'm looking to have my conceptions challenged. I have doin the most convincing arguments are won on one's opponents terms. For example, if I wished to convert you to Buddhism, I would support my claim by using your beliefs. Most are unwilling to accept criticism or argument, and so need to have their own views used, for they will not listen to anything less.2 Thess 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.Comment
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Excuse my error, that should be 'found'.2 Thess 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.Comment
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And another question, at what point does the investigation process begin and end?2 Thess 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.Comment
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He most certainly can. He simply identifies him by a different name, like humanism, secularism, or evolution. Any fool who would pledge their allegiance to his lies deserves an eternity of burning and suffering if you ask me. I mean, how hard can it be to see how much trouble Jesus went to in order to take on the price of sin? You think it's easy to suffer for three hours and then temporarily die? But no one want's to think of Jesus' suffering. No one wants to put themselves in His place and imagine how hard it must have been to say, "Sure, I'll pay the price for the offense of Every Sinner On Earth until I return triumphantly with my own Personal Heavenly Militia." I mean, think of it. He could have done anything, but He chose this path. Who are you to say it was a foolish choice and you won't be grateful?Originally posted by Maroney00 View PostHello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Mary,
Why must something that does not necessarily follow the interests of religion be evil? Secularism is what our nation was founded on, and is most likely the reason out nation has come so far, an can truly call itself free.
The suffering of Jesus was very real, I have no doubts in that regard. My doubts, however, are in the legitimacy of his claim as the son of God, as well as the legitimacy of his miracles. God gave us the choice to believe, and I'm simply not convinced. I was raised to question, not to follow.2 Thess 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.Comment
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Don't be silly. You were raised to love and follow Jesus, all American children are. If you were raised by atheists, you'd be autistic or gay (or both).Originally posted by Maroney00 View PostHello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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I was raised by deists, individuals who believe in a higher power, but do not endorse any religion. I myself am atheist, and I can assure you I am neither gay nor autistic. Can we refrain from name-calling and talk like decent human beings?
Not all Americans are raised Christian, it seems your scope of variances in upbringing is somewhat limited.2 Thess 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.Comment
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"Deist" is another word for "Fluffy-Bunny Christian Who Doesn't Like The Idea That Jesus Will Send People To Hell For All Eternity And So Make Up Lies To Comfort Their Fragile Egos." In other words, you were brought up by Christians and then rejected Christ, like I said. To reject Christ is to embrace the devil and his works, like I said.Originally posted by Maroney00 View Post
Let me guess, you were public schooled, right?
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Call it what you will, but if that were the case then I'd still be an autistic homosexual by your rules, am I wrong? Why is my education background relevant?2 Thess 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.Comment
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Even though there's no evidence outside of the Bible (or blatantly fabricated) that Jesus even existed?Originally posted by Maroney00 View Post
Pieces of the "True Cross"? There are enough fragments in various cathedrals and basilicas across the globe to make an Ark out of, let alone something to nail one human onto.
Shroud of Turin? Medieval forgery.
Josephus? "...The general scholarly view is that while the Testimonium Flavianum is most likely not authentic in its entirety, it is broadly agreed upon that it originally consisted of an authentic nucleus, which was then subject to Christian interpolation or forgery by fourth-century apologist Eusebius or by others..." (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus)
You don't find it at all curious that the Romans, who were in charge of the area at the time and were meticulous record-keepers, fail to mention some carpenter's stepson who was traipsing about to mass gatherings and performing miracles everywhere He went?
What evidence are you relying on that removes all of your doubt?
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A book called "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel has me convinced, but I've been wrong before. I'll have to do some research, thanks for the post Didymus.2 Thess 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.Comment
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"...Lee Patrick Strobel (born January 25, 1952) is an American Christian author, journalist, apologist and pastor..."Originally posted by Maroney00 View Post
Yeah, no agenda there, eh?
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