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  • Ask Jesus - 2024

    Confefe! My Pal Jesus has promised to appear once again this Christmas to answer the questions of y'all. So keep 'em queries a-comin', as Satan Claus has already panetrated our manly defences and is rampaging this Forum!


    I've been absent a bit as I had to ensure the election of my Pal Donnie. Now that everything's fixed I can once again concentrate on guiding you to Heaven. The first thing to remember if you want to be SavedR is to keep 'em Christmas tithes a-comin' as the golden pipes of the Flint Mansion will not fix themselves! But, back to business. Here's my question: Jesus, Pal, when you finally can't resist the temptation and you take the Donald up to frolick with you in Heaven, who's gonna replace him as the leader of the Free World? Have anyone in mind?
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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    Ask Jesus

    In conversation recently, not on public transport you'll be pleased to hear, it was suggested that maybe an indigenous person is more able to represent everyone. Other than an indigenous European: the caveat was spat out: I gathered that a Pacific savage or perhaps a Greenlander or someone from the Bay of Bengal (there are islands) was envisaged. A trans or perhaps conjoined twins, it was proposed, would more effectively bring the world together. I'm not sure whether I agree with this. Has your outreach to such places enabled you to comment?

    Thanking you in anticipation.

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    • #3
      Oh, my beloved : I do thank you for your very kind offer — from the bottom of my heart; 'tis very generous and gracious of you. My request this year is small, but very important. And, it is not for me, but for the betterment and protection of our beloved . Can you please ask the to ban that -bound SATAN Claus from infesting this Holy place? It appears that our JesOS might be infected, thereby not being effective at preventing evil from seeping in; so, might it be possible to have the "thousand years" promise of the advanced to 2024?

      Revelation 20:1-3:

      1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

      2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

      3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled:


      Thanking you in advance, Dear, and may truly bless and watch over you during this glorious mas season.

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      Hebrews 10:19 " Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the of "

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Isabella White View Post
        Revelation 20

        till the thousand years should be fulfilled:
        So that would be the year nine-nine-nine?
        Proverbs 20:23 Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD; and a false balance is not good.

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          Dear Baby Jesus,

          Do you have any copy of the only good comic about American history that ironically was not made by americans, aka Tex Willer?

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          I hope you won't confuse with the sinful and frenchie Lucky Luke.

          Thanks, and forgive the world for rejecting you in the latest years.

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          • #6
            Namaste Jesus

            I must betray several individuals next year, for reasons known only to my heart. Please ensure that I receive my thirty-one pieces of silver by January 2025, at least one more than what you arranged for Judas.

            Rest assured; the cows of my family Hindu temple are well-fed. I would offer you the first-born calf. Requesting it not be turned into a McDonald's hamburger. Please keep it as a plaything.

            Thank you come again.
            GanduHindu

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            • #7
              Originally posted by GanduHindu View Post
              Namaste Jesus ~ I must betray se
              Jesus does not respond to spell-casting (whether muttered or typed) and is 100% resistant to mesmerism. I'm not sure what the underlined incantation is supposed to achieve but in His case it won't work.

              At this time of year, Jesus is recalling His miraculous birth, the wonderful gifts brought to Him by The 3 Kings and the vast assemblage of angels singing about how glorious He is. What you put relates to Easter. Jesus does not want to think about Easter at Christmas. (You may think that God could have got Eve pregnant and simply murdered that baby, once it was born, but there would be no Judas; "sure," you may reflect, "yet Adam could have betrayed the thing," which overlooks the fact that The Betrayer goes and tops himself so if that were Adam, who'd be available to murder the baby? Eve couldn't do it due to her communicable defilement so if she touched the baby, whether or not it had grown up, it would no longer be pure and could not atone for Sin.) You really need to thing these things through!

              Luke 2:13-14 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                the wonderful gifts brought to Him by The 3 Kings ]​
                And one of the three wise dudes, Caspar, came from India. And he brought the most expensive gift: gold.

                In Sanskrit, Caspar means कोषाध्यक्ष​ (Kosha-dhyakhsha) or Treasurer. In other words, the Indian dude was the earthly financier of Jesus at the time of his birth.

                Traveling has always been expensive in any age. Joseph and Mary were basically broke hobos, mendicants. I think Jesus could have chosen to be birthed in India, in a Hindu temple. If you don't mind living next to the cows, our attached barn stables are free to use for anyone.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GanduHindu View Post

                  And one of the three wise dudes, Caspar, came from India. And he brought the most expensive gift: gold.

                  In Sanskrit, Caspar means कोषाध्यक्ष​ (Kosha-dhyakhsha) or Treasurer. In other words, the Indian dude was the earthly financier of Jesus at the time of his birth.

                  Traveling has always been expensive in any age. Joseph and Mary were basically broke hobos, mendicants. I think Jesus could have chosen to be birthed in India, in a Hindu temple. If you don't mind living next to the cows, our attached barn stables are free to use for anyone.
                  In your rather dubious source, the supposed etymology of "Caspar" derives from, rather than informs, his gift-bringing. Anyway, the main problem is: How would Mary (or Joseph) travel to India if they were broke hobos?

                  An additional concern is the source's going on about Romish heretics, none of whom—as you may be aware—have any connection with Christianity. Unless you want to consider papism a Godly creed: that would be difficult since in every matter catholicism is diametrically opposed to anything taught by Jesus. That doesn't require you to agree with either Christ or Rome BUT IT DOES MEAN THAT ROME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CHRISTIANITY regardless of what they claim. It's as easy as एकं द्वौ त्रयः at least for those holding that Christianity aligns with any teaching of Christ, otherwise one may conclude that Ganseh is more akin to Jesus than a pope. (As it happens, I already do think that.)

                  Prayerfully.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                    In your rather dubious source, the supposed etymology of "Caspar" derives from, rather than informs, his gift-bringing. Anyway, the main problem is: How would Mary (or Joseph) travel to India if they were broke hobos?

                    An additional concern is the source's going on about Romish heretics, none of whom—as you may be aware—have any connection with Christianity. Unless you want to consider papism a Godly creed: that would be difficult since in every matter catholicism is diametrically opposed to anything taught by Jesus. That doesn't require you to agree with either Christ or Rome BUT IT DOES MEAN THAT ROME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CHRISTIANITY regardless of what they claim. It's as easy as एकं द्वौ त्रयः at least for those holding that Christianity aligns with any teaching of Christ, otherwise one may conclude that Ganseh is more akin to Jesus than a pope. (As it happens, I already do think that.)

                    Prayerfully.
                    Oh dearest Sistah

                    I never said Jesus was born anywhere but where he was, in Bethlehem. I just wished a personal desire that perhaps it would have been better for all humanity had he been born in India. Only Jesus can tell why he didn't choose a cow stable in my country. I would have loved that.

                    I know the modern-day American education system is seriously deficient (that's why your country hijacks and lures away all our IIT engineers with the promise of more money. Their skills could have been used to make India a wealthier place. You don't even spare our highly qualified doctors who run away to America at the first opportunity leaving our clinics understaffed.

                    ​We Indians are greedy and you Americans continue to exploit our biggest weakness). Still I had expected you'd do some research a bit on this thing first.

                    Anyway, does Matthew 2:1 ring a bell 🔔? It clearly mentions three wise men from the east of Jerusalem without specifying their nationality..

                    Where would these easterners come from? The Moslems of Arabia are anything but wise. They reproduce with their siblings and the birth defects are extraordinary.

                    Around the year 1 AD, you'd have only two logical choices as regards to the east of Jerusalem, Persia (including Babylon) and India. Everything else was barren land.

                    The Hebrew word for "treasure" closely matches the one in Sanskrit. I'm not an expert in Persian but their language is not as advanced as ours.

                    Plus, India was wealthier, the source of all spices, gold, diamonds and what not. It was the United States of America of that time.

                    Maybe we can argue that Caspar came from China, another wealthy country. But I see that possibility as far-fetched.

                    As cunning as the Chinese are, they're atheists and communists. They don't love God the way Indians do.

                    ​​​​​​Even without the so-called dubious source (have you checked the scholarly references at the bottom of that page?), I'm firmly convinced this Gold-bearing Magi was a Hindu Brahmin who came all the way from India. It's called INFERENTIAL REASONING.

                    Back in Jesus's time, India's currency was pegged to the gold standard. Not the fiat currency imposed on us more recently by ungodly Britishers.

                    India's Hindu religion had strict prohibition against bastardy even in ancient times (Deut 23:2).

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                    Now I love Jesus as much as you do, dearest sistah. But business is business. We Indian Hindus are owed some serious repayment by Jesus for all that gold gifted to him. We're like the Jews on the topic of money. And Caspar was a treasurer representing an Indian king, a bank accountant in modern parlance.

                    That pot of gold wasn't really a gift in the modern sense. More of a loan. That's my sole purpose of joining this forum. To remind Mr. Jesus that he needs to repay us Hindus the gold we gave him based on 2000 years of compound interest. The current interest rate in my country is 8%. I'll hand over an invoice to Landover Baptist church as soon as Jesus accepts a settlement.

                    While Jesus's shedding his blood for humanity might be adequate repayment for you Christian folks, it's not good enough for us Hindus.

                    All I asked Jesus was thirty-one pieces of silver 🥈 one more than he arranged for Judas. That would have been the first installment of the loan.

                    As a duly representative of a Hindu temple, my family are legitimate recipients. We also have the power to waive off some outstanding dues.

                    If Jesus makes his first installment this January, I give your church my personal assurance that we will defer the next payment to a foreseeable time in future.

                    But we certainly don't write off payments. Sorry the Wall Street culture doesn't fly around in my country. Waivers are unacceptable to us. Deferments are okay.

                    And Merry Christmas everyone. I love Jesus.


                    Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him. When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born. And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,

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                    • #11
                      Thank you for an interesting, if ill-informed, reply. The first problem concerns what "The East" signifies. The Star was in the east when they saw it, as you've quoted. But where were the wise men? Mali for instance is on the east coast of the Atlantic ocean and was awash with gold. Seafaring types may well describe such landlubbers as "from the east" – of where they plied their trade on a north/south route from Cornwall to the Congo River; even Libya would be east from Carthage.

                      Matthew 2:9 When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.

                      The Star was in the east and they followed it to Jerusalem: are you suggesting they went the whole way backwards? Or did they see The Star when they were in the east? In which case The Star would need to be in the west. It was of course mobile, so other combinations are possible.

                      What is not possible, however, is for islamic Arabs to be involved.
                      Where would these easterners come from? The Moslems of Arabia are anything but wise. They reproduce with their siblings and the birth defects are extraordinary.​
                      There were no moslems in Arabia at that time. A second question arose, concerning Jesus as follows ~
                      Only Jesus can tell why he didn't choose a cow stable in my country. I would have loved that.
                      You'd answered that already​: Mary could not have afforded to travel there.
                      I'm not an expert in Persian but their language is not as advanced as ours.​
                      That's because Persian is older and Sanskrit is a later development. Other details are unimportant; we know this because if they were God would have included them in The Bible, much as He told us about the origin of sin—which otherwise we may not have known—and how to get rid of it. But first, Jesus had to be born, the best gift ever.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                        Thank you for an interesting, if ill-informed, reply. The first problem concerns what "The East" signifies.

                        The Star was in the east and they followed it to Jerusalem: are you suggesting they went the whole way backwards? Or did they see The Star when they were in the east? In which case The Star would need to be in the west.
                        Thank you, Sister Miza, for bringing good information to this "debate." You have inadvertently provided the Hindus with a nifty marketing slogan, "Join the Hindu religion. Our camels walk backwards."
                        Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                          Thank you for an interesting, if ill-informed, reply.
                          That's a bit of a preconceived notion, don't you think? I hadn't even replied before you decided I was wrong. Anyway, it's a waste of the limited time God has given us all to argue semantics.

                          Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                          The first problem concerns what "The East" signifies. The Star was in the east when they saw it, as you've quoted. But where were the wise men? Mali for instance is on the east coast of the Atlantic ocean and was awash with gold. Seafaring types may well describe such landlubbers as "from the east" – of where they plied their trade on a north/south route from Cornwall to the Congo River; even Libya would be east from Carthage.
                          I don't understand how Cornwall, the Congo River, Carthage, or Libya fit into your argument. Each of these locations is thousands of miles from Jerusalem. In fact, India is relatively closer by a few dozen miles (ancient India included the present-day western territories of Pakistan). We believe that, for the sake of God, we will reclaim that territory (we don't recognize it as a country in its own right), show them the error of Islam, and encourage them to return to the Hindu fold. Anyway, I don't want to digress on that one.

                          Mali, I'll get to that in a while.


                          Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                          Matthew 2:9 When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them[COLOR=#d35400], till it came and stood over where the young child was.[The Star was in the east and they followed it to Jerusalem: are you suggesting they went the whole way backwards? Or did they see The Star when they were in the east? In which case The Star would need to be in the west. It was of course mobile, so other combinations are possible./COLOR]
                          That's a good one, but I'm still not impressed. Clearly, you've never closely examined the night sky, with or without a telescope. However, you correctly mentioned that the course of the sky could have been mobile.

                          Back in 1 BC or 1 AD, the magnetic compass had already been invented by the Han Chinese. However, it wasn't a perfect design and wasn't truly perfected until the 11th century Song dynasty. The chances of a navigation error were as high as 20 percent, meaning these instruments were unreliable at best and dangerous at worst. Imagine trying to meet Jesus in Bethlehem and ending up somewhere near Mecca, where Muhammad's ancestors were worshipping the Black Stone, just as Moslems do today.

                          Stargazing was the only way to navigate from Point A to Point B.

                          As for Matthew 2:9, now of course, you would know that there's only one star that appears fixed at a point in the sky as it is aligned with the Earth's rotational axis at the North Pole. The Pole star, or the North star.

                          Every other star's position changes depending on the observer's reference point (the Magi in this case). East depends on the original direction and the time of day. Interestingly, the North Star is not explicitly mentioned in the Bible, which I've always found curious. If you find an indirect reference, let me know. The north star was well known to most ancient navigators. However, there's mention of astronomy in Job 38:31-32, indicating that the ancient Heebs were well aware of celestial mapping. So they definitely knew it all about the North star.

                          But let's just focus on another verse in the second chapter of Matthew, Matthew 2:7

                          Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, enquired of them diligently what time the star appeared.
                          Enquired of them obviously means having a face-to-face conversation. Obviously, there were no cellphones back then. Did Herod use some sort of ancient pigeon service to call upon the wise men? Possible, but very unlikely.

                          The most logical deduction is that the wise men, who were wealthy foreigners, had a face-to-face audience with King Herod. After traveling on camels for days, they would have been very tired. Being wealthy, they could afford to rest at the King's palace by buying their way in. Thus, the three Wise men likely spent quite a bit of time with King Herod before learning about Jesus's upcoming birth.

                          Now, where exactly was King Herod's palace? Obviously in his capital city. But as King, Herod fancied having multiple capitals: Jerusalem, Caesarea Maritima, and Herodium.

                          For argument's sake, let's assume that Herod received the Magi at his capital in Caesarea, which is a port near the Mediterranean Sea. Bethlehem is to the southeast from there. So, it's possible the Magi looked at the eastern sky (not clear on the time of day) and decided to follow its path.

                          Let me clarify again that 'east' in the night sky is not a well-defined navigation point. If you were an astronomy student, you'd fail for writing that in your paper, even in an ancient class. The only fixed point is the North Star, and if they were wise men, they wouldn't be so foolish as to head blindly in that direction. So your logical argument about Matthew 2:9 is moot. or irrelevant to our discussion.

                          Perhaps they decided that mentioning the North Star was not important. Israel is a small country, tinier than Vermont or Mizoram in India. You could just walk with your camel and end up near Bethlehem with a few educated guesses.

                          Maybe the light of Jesus was so luminous that they couldn't have lost their way. [See, Christians - I'm taking YOUR side here on matters of faith. I may be a devout Hindu but don't anyone ever accuse me of insulting the Bible or whatever..]

                          Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post

                          What is not possible, however, is for islamic Arabs to be involved.There were no moslems in Arabia at that time.
                          Of course, Sistah. I was joking. But my point is still valid, and those Arabs were never the brightest bulbs. The chances that there may have been a Magus among them are very slim. Muhammad's ancestors were living in Arabia, worshiping that black stone in Mecca.

                          Most 7th century Islamic practices can be traced to ancient Arab moon-worshiping rituals. It's not relevant to our current discussion. So, please laugh at my joke and let's move on.


                          Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                          ​A second question arose, concerning Jesus as follows ~You'd answered that already​: Mary could not have afforded to travel there.
                          Sure, Mary couldn't have traveled here. But, it would have been nice if Jesus had chosen a different womb for his earthly reincarnation.

                          You see, the western parts of India saw a lot of mixing of cultures. There were Greeks, Scythians, Persians, and even a few Hebrews. There has been a continuous Jewish presence in the state of Kerala, India, since the time the tribes were kicked out of Egypt by Pharaoh for being welfare stealers.

                          Ancient Indians were aware of the Jews. We may not have understood them very well (that's why the Vedas and Bhagavad Gita don't mention them at all), but we liked the fact that they mostly kept to themselves. They loved money as much as we did. In fact, India is the only country in the world with no record of anti-Semitism. That concept has never existed here. The Jews, as limited as their numbers were, were free to live and do as they pleased. Indians wouldn't bother them.

                          I wonder why Jesus didn't see that safety advantage and choose a different Jewess's womb. Of course, he definitely had different plans. All I said was it would have been nice for us to host him.


                          Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post

                          That's because Persian is older and Sanskrit is a later development.
                          I already covered that in my discussion with you on another thread. Sanskrit is the most civilized language ever. The Rig Veda, the world's oldest continuous religious text, is in Sanskrit. Even the gods prefer to communicate in Sanskrit. Nothing beats Sanskrit.

                          Proto-Indo-European is not a real language—it's an artificial construct like Klingon from the Star Trek Universe.

                          Persian is old, but it's the second oldest thing after Sanskrit. We Indians have always beaten the Iranians in every competition. Their nation has always been second fiddle to ours throughout history. End of story.

                          Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post

                          Other details are unimportant; we know this because if they were God would have included them in The Bible, much as He told us about the origin of sin—which otherwise we may not have known—and how to get rid of it. But first, Jesus had to be born, the best gift ever.
                          Of course. Jesus was/is still amazing, but he owes us Hindus some money. And then all will be good.
                          Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, enquired of them diligently what time the star appeared.

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                          • #14

                            Originally posted by Johny Joe Hold View Post

                            Thank you, Sister Miza, for bringing good information to this "debate."
                            Oh Mayor my friend.

                            It's called a "DISCUSSION."

                            Originally posted by Johny Joe Hold View Post
                            You have inadvertently provided the Hindus with a nifty marketing slogan, "Join the Hindu religion. Our camels walk backwards."
                            Cows, mayor. Cows. How many times do I have to tell you we Hindus prefer cows (and bullocks) over other animals.

                            But I can see they couldn't have lasted longer in the Israel desert. So, the Indian Magus would have traded his cattle for a sturdy Arabian camel.

                            Now Indians and cows have a complicated bond. I don't expect you to understand it. But please respect it as I'm respecting the Bible here.

                            Two million years ago, large, fierce mammals known as aurochs originated in India and spread westwards. They were massive, often reaching 1,500 kg, had huge cur

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by GanduHindu View Post


                              Cows, mayor. Cows. How many times do I have to tell you we Hindus prefer cows (and bullocks) over other animals.

                              But I can see they couldn't have lasted longer in the Israel desert. So, the Indian Magus would have traded his cattle for a sturdy Arabian camel.
                              HitotheHindu--It makes sense the Hindus reverence of cows has its limits. I'm pleased you are not one of those atheists who argues with us about camels. The Bible states clearly that Abraham owned lots of camels. Smart a$$ atheists claim this cannot be true because camels were domesticated after the time of Abraham. That is heresy. God knows if he provided Abraham with camels or if he did not. God wrote in the Bible he had camels. End of story,

                              Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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