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  • #16
    Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

    Originally posted by davaca View Post
    No, I'm saying God knows humans change, and just might change his rules because there are bether alternatives for the specific, changed situation.
    So you're suggesting that God, who knows all past, present, and future, was not capable of determining rules that would apply in the future?

    So either God is an incompetent writer, or God is not omniscient. Which is it?

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    • #17
      Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

      Originally posted by davaca View Post
      We are going nowhere this way, are we? Youre interpretation of my words is wrong. I'm not saying that your God isn't perfect or unchanging, but humans are. Unless God is actually stupid,which I doubt, He is aware of this, and if must realise that if He want us to go back to his right path, the best way to get there might have changed too.



      And Jesus might or might not have been God, God's son, both or just some guy who had a lot of good stuff to say, by declaring the word of God while in a human form you are a prophet. The 'fact' that he is more than just a prophet doesn't mean he isn't a prophet any more.
      But of course, that's just a name and I don't think it really mathers.
      What is your native language? Because I'm certain it can't be American. We are having a difficult time trying to follow your childish thought patterns. Are you a drug addict of some kind? Or maybe in a group home?

      By the way, are you that pervert who has those out-of-focus photos all over Flicker? Because if you are, the DOF is looking for you.
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      Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

      Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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      • #18
        Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

        Originally posted by davaca View Post
        No, I'm saying God knows humans change, and just might change his rules because there are bether alternatives for the specific, changed situation.
        Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
        Hebrews 13:8

        For I am the LORD, I change not;
        Therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
        Malachi 3:6
        If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
        A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
        Proverbs 9:12-13

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        • #19
          Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

          Originally posted by Sister Mary Maria View Post
          I'm ignoring most of your rambling because you obviously know nothing of history or the Truth of the Bible. Instead I will focus on this one lie. Baptists were never catolists! We aren't even Protestants or Catholics. We predate them all, going right back to John the Baptist and Jesus Christ.
          And who told you that?
          That isn't true at all. First there was catholism, then the protestants split of of them. And baptists are just one form of protestantism.

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          • #20
            Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

            Originally posted by Sister Mary Maria View Post
            So if people suddenly decide that rape, murder, and drinking urine is okay, God makes allowances for that? I'm having trouble following your "logic" here...
            No, I'm saying that God can decide that, for the human race to get to the right path, some rules are only temporaly neccecary.

            Originally posted by OnYourKnees View Post
            So you're suggesting that God, who knows all past, present, and future, was not capable of determining rules that would apply in the future?

            So either God is an incompetent writer, or God is not omniscient. Which is it?
            see above...
            I'll give you the example of the ship again: you are a captain of a ship. You are fully aware of a storm brewing in the direction you want to go, but it's still better to go in the direction of the storm for some time, and then change that direction.

            Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
            What is your native language? Because I'm certain it can't be American. We are having a difficult time trying to follow your childish thought patterns. Are you a drug addict of some kind? Or maybe in a group home?

            By the way, are you that pervert who has those out-of-focus photos all over Flicker? Because if you are, the DOF is looking for you.
            My native language is Dutch/Flemish I am not a drug addict, and I'm also not in a group home. I also have nothing to do with the flicker guy.

            Originally posted by SalvationSeeker View Post
            Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
            Hebrews 13:8

            For I am the LORD, I change not;
            Therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
            Malachi 3:6
            You are not a son of Jacob, since you are not a Jew... So I gues you just have to be consumed, right?

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            • #21
              Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

              Originally posted by davaca View Post
              No, I'm saying that God can decide that, for the human race to get to the right path, some rules are only temporaly neccecary.
              The words are "temporarily" and "necessary", my retarded little friend. Not that it matters, because nowhere in the Bible does God say, "These rules are just for now, but don't worry about following them later." If He did, it would be different. If he gave a timetable, it would be different. But He didn't! The rules are still in effect today and will continue to be in effect until the very end!
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              • #22
                Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

                Originally posted by davaca View Post
                No, I'm saying that God can decide that, for the human race to get to the right path, some rules are only temporarily necessary.

                I'll give you the example of the ship again: you are a captain of a ship. You are fully aware of a storm brewing in the direction you want to go, but it's still better to go in the direction of the storm for some time, and then change that direction.
                For the captain of a ship who is steering the ship himself, without God, that applies perfectly.

                However, let's take your analogy a step further.

                In a Christian analogy, God isn't the captain of the ship, because each of us has our own ship which -- through free will -- we steer here and there. None of us are passive passengers.

                God is able to inspect each ship as He sees fit, and also see the big picture. He guides each captain along his journey, providing directions.

                Now, if God wants to make sure your ship gets from New York to London, and He knows there's a big storm in your way, what will He do?

                Will God say, "Go due east, and always go due east, and you'll get there", then let you guess the rest? Nope. He'll say, "Go due east for the next 12 hours, then turn southeast for 6 hours, then northeast . . ." etc. This way, He'd make sure you got to your intended destination and got around the storm. He'd not leave it for you to guess.

                If God were writing the Bible, and said, "Well, since I can see all the future, I know that these rules won't apply after 1963," do you not think He'd write in His own rule book, "These rules apply until 1963. After this date, this other set of rules applies"?

                Of course He would, unless one of the following applies:
                • God is not omniscient (which makes Him a liar)
                • God intended to trick people into following old rules for kicks (which also makes Him a liar)
                • God hates people and wants most of them to go to Hell, and sets up impossibly confusing rules to ensure it (isn't that Satan's job?)
                Are you suggesting one of these conditions is the case? Or do you have another explanation?
                Last edited by OnYourKnees; 02-13-2007, 09:50 PM.

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                • #23
                  Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

                  I'm giving up... You guys didn't convince me, but it's obvious it's also impossible to convince you. It looks like this whole argument was useless.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

                    How was it useless? You asked us to prove that the Bible is the only true Word of God, and we did exactly that. Your stubborn adherence to Satanic lies and "reason" may put you beyond the hope of Salvation, but I'm sure that others will come along, read this topic, discover the Truth contained within, and become Saved. Don't call the Salvation of others "useless" just because you refuse to accept Christ even when He's staring straight into your eyes (which is what happens when you read the Bible).
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                    • #25
                      Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

                      Originally posted by Virginia D. Templeton View Post
                      How was it useless? You asked us to prove that the Bible is the only true Word of God, and we did exactly that. Your stubborn adherence to Satanic lies and "reason" may put you beyond the hope of Salvation, but I'm sure that others will come along, read this topic, discover the Truth contained within, and become Saved. Don't call the Salvation of others "useless" just because you refuse to accept Christ even when He's staring straight into your eyes (which is what happens when you read the Bible).
                      And that's exaclty where it goed wrong:
                      I don't think the same way about the Bible as you do, and the only reason you people can think of to convince me that the Bible is actually the word of God is that it's in the Bible... If I write on a piece of paper that I can fly and that the paper is right, I would still die if I jump of a cliff.

                      but sure, it wasn't useless, maybe somebody will believe it. who knows?

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                      • #26
                        Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

                        Originally posted by davaca View Post
                        And that's exaclty where it goed wrong:
                        I don't think the same way about the Bible as you do, and the only reason you people can think of to convince me that the Bible is actually the word of God is that it's in the Bible... If I write on a piece of paper that I can fly and that the paper is right, I would still die if I jump of a cliff.
                        That's because you're not God. God is.
                        O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                        God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

                          Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                          That's because you're not God. God is.
                          and God didn't write the Bible, humans did.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

                            God dictated what was to be written through those humans you scorn. Please stop posting your hateful comments. Either find something useful to contribute to the conversations, or we'll tell your mommy.
                            "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. . . . And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the manservant's do."
                            (Leviticus 21:6-7)

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                            • #29
                              Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

                              Originally posted by Rev. Dr. Davidson View Post
                              God dictated what was to be written through those humans you scorn. Please stop posting your hateful comments. Either find something useful to contribute to the conversations, or we'll tell your mommy.
                              and how did he do that?
                              and I think my mommy doesn't really care.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

                                Originally posted by davaca View Post
                                and how did he do that?
                                and I think my mommy doesn't really care.
                                Your choice... Once you're in quaranteened, don't say I didn't warn you.
                                "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. . . . And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the manservant's do."
                                (Leviticus 21:6-7)

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