[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by MourningStar

If a girl refuses to marry her rapist?

Respect HER opinions. It's her choice not yours.

Where does it say that in the Holy Bible? Post the Scripture here, or apologize to Jesus here and now!

[MourningStarDemoness]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

Where does it say that in the Holy Bible? Post the Scripture here, or apologize to Jesus here and now!

25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.

26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:

27 For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her.

He can't marry her if he's dead!

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by MourningStarDemoness

25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.

26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:

27 For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her.

He can't marry her if he's dead!

Sorry dear, I'm having trouble find the phrases "respect her opinion," or "it's her choice" in this verse. Where do you see it?

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda

Sorry dear, I'm having trouble find the phrases "respect her opinion," or "it's her choice" in this verse. Where do you see it?

I suppose from the perspetive of MSD it depends on what the damsel cried in the field. The text does not mention what to do if she doesn't cry out (in the field).

I searched the whole chapter, Mrs Etheldreda, twice —

[Mary Thompson]

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

I suppose from the perspetive of MSD it depends on what the damsel cried in the field. The text does not mention what to do if she doesn't cry out (in the field).

I searched the whole chapter, Mrs Etheldreda, twice —

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Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda

Sorry dear, I'm having trouble find the phrases "respect her opinion," or "it's her choice" in this verse. Where do you see it?

I was curious and I searched the entire Bible for anything about women's opinions being important. None. Zero. The poster must be smoking some sort of sinful substance.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

I suppose from the perspetive of MSD it depends on what the damsel cried in the field. The text does not mention what to do if she doesn't cry out (in the field).

I searched the whole chapter, Mrs Etheldreda, twice —

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Sister Mitza, your dedication to find out the Truth is simply inspiring. Most people don't even read the Holy Bible but simply assume what they think must be in it, is in it. You search for concrete evidence. I hope this demoness learned something today.

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Mary Thompson

I was curious and I searched the entire Bible for anything about women's opinions being important. None. Zero. The poster must be smoking some sort of sinful substance.

When we read God's Word either straight through from Genesis to Revelation or in any other order, we find out how consistent He is. For example, sometimes I start with Judges—a really great book—and see God's Perfect Love in action. I find Deborah particularly encouraging.

JUDGES 4
1 And the children of Israel again did evil in the sight of the LORD, when Ehud was dead.

No surprises so far, then.

2 And the LORD sold them into the hand of Jabin king of Canaan, that reigned in Hazor; the captain of whose host was Sisera, which dwelt in Harosheth of the Gentiles.
3 And the children of Israel cried unto the LORD: for he had nine hundred chariots of iron; and twenty years he mightily oppressed the children of Israel.
4 And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time.
5 And she dwelt under the palm tree of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in mount Ephraim: and the children of Israel came up to her for judgment.
6 And she sent and called Barak the son of Abinoam out of Kedeshnaphtali, and said unto him, Hath not the LORD God of Israel commanded, saying, Go and draw toward mount Tabor, and take with thee ten thousand men of the children of Naphtali and of the children of Zebulun?
7 And I will draw unto thee to the river Kishon Sisera, the captain of Jabin's army, with his chariots and his multitude; and I will deliver him into thine hand.
8 And Barak said unto her, If thou wilt go with me, then I will go: but if thou wilt not go with me, then I will not go.
9 And she said, I will surely go with thee: notwithstanding the journey that thou takest shall not be for thine honour; for the LORD shall sell Sisera into the hand of a woman. And Deborah arose, and went with Barak to Kedesh.
KJV .. look up

Barak the wus set off and God's plan unfolded. Vile heathens were chopped up, their hero scarpered, was caught by the wife of an ally who saw an opportunity to witness for The Truth. She accepted Sisera into her tent, gave him some milk because he was thirsty and nailed his head to the floor.

Just as Deborah had foretold. But that was not because she obsessed over crystal balls or did séances. Indeed God is very clear that her ability to judge came from Him, not from her. And clear that such a situation where He ruled Israel Himself was infinitely better than having a king.

God explains that here.

God's Just Law isn't something we could ever think up for ourselves. Provision for rape victims is a good example, as ravings from Bible deniers illustrate in the thread. And just as the "opinion" of some harlot concerning whether she ought to be incinerated or crushed scores 0 in God's table of appropriate outcomes, it is worth noting that Deborah's opinion ranks at the same level. If she had one. Which she didn't.

And that is what I find encouraging, Mrs Thompson, that by having no opinion at all we can nevertheless still always be correct just like Deborah because we never express "comments" and stuff. Scripture alone is sufficient for us, and if anything else is necessary you can always ask your husband.

After reading Judges, usually I go on to Joshua, or Zephaniah.

II Corinthians 12:9

Heathens never read it at all.

I SAMUEL 8
JUDGES 4

[Mary Thompson]

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

When we read God's Word either straight through from Genesis to Revelation or in any other order, we find out how consistent He is. For example, sometimes I start with Judges—a really great book—and see God's Perfect Love in action. I find Deborah particularly encouraging.

JUDGES 4
1 And the children of Israel again did evil in the sight of the LORD, when Ehud was dead.

No surprises so far, then.

2 And the LORD sold them into the hand of Jabin king of Canaan, that reigned in Hazor; the captain of whose host was Sisera, which dwelt in Harosheth of the Gentiles.
3 And the children of Israel cried unto the LORD: for he had nine hundred chariots of iron; and twenty years he mightily oppressed the children of Israel.
4 And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time.
5 And she dwelt under the palm tree of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in mount Ephraim: and the children of Israel came up to her for judgment.
6 And she sent and called Barak the son of Abinoam out of Kedeshnaphtali, and said unto him, Hath not the LORD God of Israel commanded, saying, Go and draw toward mount Tabor, and take with thee ten thousand men of the children of Naphtali and of the children of Zebulun?
7 And I will draw unto thee to the river Kishon Sisera, the captain of Jabin's army, with his chariots and his multitude; and I will deliver him into thine hand.
8 And Barak said unto her, If thou wilt go with me, then I will go: but if thou wilt not go with me, then I will not go.
9 And she said, I will surely go with thee: notwithstanding the journey that thou takest shall not be for thine honour; for the LORD shall sell Sisera into the hand of a woman. And Deborah arose, and went with Barak to Kedesh.
KJV .. look up

Barak the wus set off and God's plan unfolded. Vile heathens were chopped up, their hero scarpered, was caught by the wife of an ally who saw an opportunity to witness for The Truth. She accepted Sisera into her tent, gave him some milk because he was thirsty and nailed his head to the floor.

Just as Deborah had foretold. But that was not because she obsessed over crystal balls or did séances. Indeed God is very clear that her ability to judge came from Him, not from her. And clear that such a situation where He ruled Israel Himself was infinitely better than having a king.

God explains that here.

God's Just Law isn't something we could ever think up for ourselves. Provision for rape victims is a good example, as ravings from Bible deniers illustrate in the thread. And just as the "opinion" of some harlot concerning whether she ought to be incinerated or crushed scores 0 in God's table of appropriate outcomes, it is worth noting that Deborah's opinion ranks at the same level. If she had one. Which she didn't.

And that is what I find encouraging, Mrs Thompson, that by having no opinion at all we can nevertheless still always be correct just like Deborah because we never express "comments" and stuff. Scripture alone is sufficient for us, and if anything else is necessary you can always ask your husband.

After reading Judges, usually I go on to Joshua, or Zephaniah.

II Corinthians 12:9

Heathens never read it at all.

I SAMUEL 8

JUDGES 4

I'm a bit boring. I read straight from Genesis to Revelations in one sitting. It only takes me about fourteen hours or so. I use one hand to turn the pages and the other hand to cook and clean!

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Mary Thompson

I'm a bit boring. I read straight from Genesis to Revelations in one sitting. It only takes me about fourteen hours or so. I use one hand to turn the pages and the other hand to cook and clean!

I don't think you're boring. Once I tried going Genesis, Revelation .. Exodus, Jude .. Leviticus, III John .. Numbers etc.,
and Numbers is a fantastic book

Here's a quote from John:

III JOHN 1
11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.
KJV

That is always such a help for me, especially in the context of this topic.

[LovemyBeer]

This has gotta be a joke right?

It seems to me this girl has her head screwed on the proper way!!!! Absolutely she should press charges, absolutely she should terminate this pregnancy and she should NEVER consider marrying a rapist!!!!
All of the other people out there who disagree with me keep one thing in mind-YOU ARE DELUSIONAL!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE SICK, SICK PEOPLE!!!!!
What kind of parent are you that you want your daughter to marry the coward who raped her?????????
All of you will be front and center waiting at Hell's Gate.

[LovemyBeer]

Well we know that Brother Terrance, along with the rest of the uneducated fools that write in here: CANNOT SPELL PROPERLY!!
Go figure

[Mother Of Seven]

Originally Posted by LovemyBible

Blah blah blah.

Hey Gay boy, why haven't you made your Introduction thread yet? Still waiting ......

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Mother Of Seven

Hey Gay boy, why haven't you made your Introduction thread yet? Still waiting ......

Oh, I wondered where his other 2 posts were. I wonder if he's ever read any of it at all?

[Mary Thompson]

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

Oh, I wondered where his other 2 posts were. I wonder if he's ever read any of it at all?

I doubt it. Is "he" even a he? He/she seems a bit too irrational and emotional to be a man. Maybe its a girl who was raped and didn't marry the rapist. Sinners these days...

[theuglyduckling]

what the piffle the young lady shouldn't have to marry the man and she should be able to make her own choice on the kid and she should plead rape so piffle off you piffleing inconsiderate son of a bitch

[A Follower]

Originally Posted by theuglyduckling

what the piffle the young lady shouldn't have to marry the man and she should be able to make her own choice on the kid and she should plead rape so piffle off you piffleing inconsiderate son of a bitch

Haven't you ever heard of the Ten Commandments? It says not to kill. Children should not be murdered, not even if one of the parents is accused of being a criminal. And if the woman simply marries the man then it wasn't really rape, just a first date.

[whiteroses]

I had plans to wait until I was married before engaging in any sexual act, however my husband....he did not agree with these plans. My protests were unheeded, and there are those who would consider our initial physical encounter to be rape. However I turned to psalms, and found my guidance in 'psalms 27:8. 'wash me thoroughly from my inequity and cleanse me from my sin'.

It became obvious to me that my protests were inefficient and I sinned in some way by leading my husbands desires beyond his control. By marrying him, it would correct the sin. And everyone knows a husband cannot rape wife, as a wife cannot deny her husband anything. Once we married, my husband also disciplined me for being to him a tempting vision before we were married. He told me the day after this so called rape that I would be his wife, and I would not want for anything again once I ensured I kept him happy and did not deny him anything. He did not even claim his 50 shekels.

[Increase Boone]

Once I knew this gal a few years older than me Kelly Thompson and she got herself raped by one of those old McGintly boys and somebody shot him and buried him down in the holler and I wonder if she should have married him fore or after they shot him cause she went on to marry old Clayton Kelly and now her name is Kelly Kelly and that always made me laugh. Have a nice day.

Increase Boone.

[Redletter warrior]

Oh my heart is heavy and my anger burns at the madness of this misrepresentation of Gods holy word .you clearly lack an understanding of oldtestment law. That law protected a wemon from being unable to marry because she was considerd unwanted and was cast out if she was not a vergin. christ clearly stated that evan looking on a female with lust in ones heart made him a adulterer and there for a sinner. He is unclean and worthy of condemnation.Also read&nbsp;galatians 3:28 that might help with your hyper sexist bull squat.A postion of athority in Gods kingdom is one of servatude or did you forget our Lord Jesus died on a cross for us he washed the feet of his friends and filled the bellys of the 5000. He resucued the wemon caught in adultry and cured the wemon who latched to his garment.My advice read a bible before you are exsposed as a fake and the man who raped this girl is guilty of a crime he should be prosocuted end of story.<div>&nbsp;</div>

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Redletter warrior

Oh my heart is heavy and my anger burns at the madness of this misrepresentation of Gods holy word .you clearly lack an understanding of oldtestment law...

What's to misunderstand? The Scripture says that they are to be married, right? The girl was refusing to comply with [what these people believe to be] God's clearly expressed and unambiguous wish. How could anyone who considers themself to be a Christian approve of her actions?

...Also read&nbsp; galatians 3:28 that might help with your hyper sexist bull squat...

No, you read it. See what it says? "...for ye are all one in Christ Jesus..." <--- that bit. She's not "in Christ Jesus" if she's in rebellion against His word, now, is she?

...A postion of athority in Gods kingdom is one of servatude or did you forget our Lord Jesus died on a cross for us he washed the feet of his friends...

Lol, every position in God's Kingdom is one of servitude (except God's).

... and filled the bellys of the 5000...

So He bought someone lunch. Whooop de dooo. Pastor Zeke does that all the time.

...He resucued the wemon caught in adultry...

No, He took a convenient opportunity to mock some hypocrites (curiously, that's one of my favourite habits ). As for the woman? He knew that she was still going to burn in Hell for eternity if she didn't acknowledge Him as her Lord and Master and beg forgiveness for dishonouring her husband so grievously, so what if she doesn't die immediately? He's in no rush.

...and cured the wemon who latched to his garment...

Are you expecting Brother Percy to start healing people by touch, now?

...My advice read a bible before you are exsposed as a fake and the man who raped this girl is guilty of a crime he should be prosocuted end of story...

The point is, your God lays out the punishment that He sees appropriate in this case in Deuteronomy. Why are you so anxious to see people disobey God's commands?