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  • #16
    Re: God is Generally Opposed to Rape

    Originally posted by Swedish eskimo View Post
    It's a harsh punishment yes, but compared to the other punishments for other more serious sins in The Bible you have to admit it's pretty light, and the sin of rape is not nearly as offensive or serious as let's say working on sundays or children rebelling against their parents.
    That's because raping a virgin is a sin against the girl's father, whereas working on the Sabbath or children rebelling are crimes against God. Besides, in most cases, the virgins asked for it by wearing skimpy clothing or circulating naked pictures of themselves. I'm not saying that makes rape right, but you have to consider the actions of the slutty temptress when you judge a man's culpability. No virgins are tempting anyone into working on Sunday.
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    • #17
      Re: God is Generally Opposed to Rape

      Originally posted by WWJDnow View Post
      No virgins are tempting anyone into working on Sunday.
      That's what I'm saying, thanks for making that very important point, Brother!
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      • #18
        Re: God is Generally Opposed to Rape

        Here's another example of where God, in His infinite wisdom, temporarily suspended the rules for rape.

        After the men of the tribe of Benjamin raped and killed the concubine of a priest, the children of Israel went to war with them. After the war was over, the rest of the Israelites decided to no longer allow their daughters to marry the Benjamites.

        God felt sorry for His children who could no longer have wives, so He said that they could go and kill everyone from a tribe who didn't show up to kill the Benjamites for their crime and take their virgin women. When that didn't satisfy them, God said they could go to a neighboring tribe and capture all the women who came out to dance during a festival.

        Judges 21:1-14 Now the men of Israel had sworn in Mizpeh, saying, There shall not any of us give his daughter unto Benjamin to wife.
        ..
        And said, O LORD God of Israel, why is this come to pass in Israel, that there should be to day one tribe lacking in Israel?
        ...
        3And, behold, there came none to the camp from Jabeshgilead to the assembly. ...8And the congregation sent thither twelve thousand men of the valiantest, and commanded them, saying, Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead with the edge of the sword, with the women and the children.
        And this is the thing that ye shall do, Ye shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman that hath lain by man.


        12And they found among the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead four hundred young virgins, that had known no man by lying with any male: and they brought them unto the camp to Shiloh, which is in the land of Canaan. ..
        14 And Benjamin came again at that time; and they gave them wives which they had saved alive of the women of Jabeshgilead: and yet so they sufficed them not.
        ...
        19Then they said, Behold, there is a feast of the LORD in Shiloh yearly in a place which is on the north side of Bethel, on the east side of the highway that goeth up from Bethel to Shechem, and on the south of Lebonah.

        20Therefore they commanded the children of Benjamin, saying, Go and lie in wait in the vineyards;
        21And see, and, behold, if the daughters of Shiloh come out to dance in dances, then come ye out of the vineyards, and catch you every man his wife of the daughters of Shiloh, and go to the land of Benjamin.
        ..
        23And the children of Benjamin did so, and took them wives, according to their number, of them that danced, whom they caught: and they went and returned unto their inheritance, and repaired the cities, and dwelt in them.

        When God says rape is okay, it's okay.
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        • #19
          Re: God is Generally Opposed to Rape

          Yet another example of God's generosity to the Faithful.

          I can't wait to meet God and start to worship him for ever!

          Glory!
          1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

          Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

          Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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          • #20
            Re: God is Generally Opposed to Rape

            Originally posted by Steph Muff View Post

            Also, women are capable of raping men as well. No one seemed to have included that.
            How exactly is this done? Like with a broom handle or something?
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            • #21
              Re: God is Generally Opposed to Rape

              It can be done in a number of ways. For example, just in march of this year an elder woman was tried for breaking and entering, and forcing the homeowner's penis in her mouth and vagina while he remained tied.

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              • #22
                Re: God is Generally Opposed to Rape

                Originally posted by Staph Muff View Post
                It can be done in a number of ways. For example, just in march of this year an elder woman was tried for breaking and entering, and forcing the homeowner's penis in her mouth and cooter while he remained tied.
                That is disgusting. Why are you telling us these horrors?

                Granny rape, how revolting! Almost as bad as your "staph muff", which I really don't want to think about.
                Bible boring? Nonsense!
                Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
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                • #23
                  Re: God is Generally Opposed to Rape

                  Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
                  Here's another example of where God, in His infinite wisdom, temporarily suspended the rules for rape.

                  [hilite]After the men of the tribe of Benjamin raped and killed the concubine of a priest, the children of Israel went to war with them. After the war was over, the rest of the Israelites decided to no longer allow their daughters to marry the Benjamites.[/B]

                  God felt sorry for His children who could no longer have wives, so He said that they could go and kill everyone from a tribe who didn't show up to kill the Benjamites for their crime and take their virgin women. When that didn't satisfy them, God said they could go to a neighboring tribe and capture all the women who came out to dance during a festival.

                  Judges 21:1-14 Now the men of Israel had sworn in Mizpeh, saying, There shall not any of us give his daughter unto Benjamin to wife.
                  ..
                  And said, O LORD God of Israel, why is this come to pass in Israel, that there should be to day one tribe lacking in Israel?
                  ...
                  3And, behold, there came none to the camp from Jabeshgilead to the assembly. ...8And the congregation sent thither twelve thousand men of the valiantest, and commanded them, saying, Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead with the edge of the sword, with the women and the children.
                  And this is the thing that ye shall do, Ye shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman that hath lain by man.


                  12And they found among the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead four hundred young virgins, that had known no man by lying with any male: and they brought them unto the camp to Shiloh, which is in the land of Canaan. ..
                  14 And Benjamin came again at that time; and they gave them wives which they had saved alive of the women of Jabeshgilead: and yet so they sufficed them not.
                  ...
                  19Then they said, Behold, there is a feast of the LORD in Shiloh yearly in a place which is on the north side of Bethel, on the east side of the highway that goeth up from Bethel to Shechem, and on the south of Lebonah.

                  20Therefore they commanded the children of Benjamin, saying, Go and lie in wait in the vineyards;
                  21And see, and, behold, if the daughters of Shiloh come out to dance in dances, then come ye out of the vineyards, and catch you every man his wife of the daughters of Shiloh, and go to the land of Benjamin.
                  ..
                  23And the children of Benjamin did so, and took them wives, according to their number, of them that danced, whom they caught: and they went and returned unto their inheritance, and repaired the cities, and dwelt in them.

                  When God says rape is okay, it's okay.
                  Judges 19:1-2 And it came to passe in those dayes, when there was no King in Israel, that there was a certaine Leuite soiourning on the side of mount Ephraim, who tooke to him a concubine out of Bethlehem Iudah. And his concubine played the whore against him, and went away from him vnto her fathers house to Bethlehem Iudah, and was there foure whole moneths.
                  ©1611

                  Judges is such an encouraging book, reassuring us how God loves & protects us even in the face of adversity. That Benjaminite concubine was a whore. Her destruction was certain - even her father was pleased when her owner turned up at his house to remove her!
                  Judges 19:3 And her husband arose, and went after her to speake friendly vnto her, and to bring her againe, hauing his seruant with him, and a couple of asses: and shee brought him into her fathers house, and when the father of the damsell saw him, he reioyced to meet him.
                  ©1611

                  When destruction of these wantons is to be by sexual abuse and (when the slut refused to speak to her owner the following morning)
                  by subsequent chopping up can the outcome be considered "rape" at all?
                  Throughout this chapter we see the patience of the priest contrasted with the ungrateful urges of his strumpet concubine and in the end God's Just Law prevails as she is dealt the certain destruction which must follow rejection of His Commandments, harlotry, prostitution and filth.

                  God had everything in hand. The merciful priest offered forgiveness and love but the woman chose hate and bile. Everything here is in accordance with Leviticus and Deuteronomy and justice prevailed - so can such an outcome be considered rape? It is so confusing for me sometimes and I'd welcome clarification from Pastor Jones (or from one of the medical team at the Landover University School of Creation Sciences).

                  So, uncertain - but thanking you in anticipation.

                  Judges 19:25
                  Judges 19:28
                  Judges 19:29
                  whole chapter linked here

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