[HollowHead]

Re: Follow the Word of God, not your "conscience"

Satan doesn't send people to Hell, that's God's job. Protip: read Revelation and learn how Satan will end in the very same lake of fire alongside all those he's deceived into sin (NOT ruling over it).



You're right! 2 Peter 2:9 "The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:"



Is anyone laughing?



Yet you expect these people to exactly that.



Uh, let's see, freedom of speech? Freedom of religion? Or are you in favour of those things ONLY FOR PEOPLE THAT AGREE WITH YOU? Hmmm?

Y'know there's no need for someone to laugh for something to be funny and
I was pointing the contradiction on how they want him to sit down and do nothing.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Follow the Word of God, not your "conscience"

...I was pointing the contradiction on how they want him to sit down and do nothing.

So you do the same thing, and accuse them of being hypocrites? Hypocrite.

You don't like something you read hear? You have three options:

1) Leave. Little red "x" on your browser window. Use it.

2) Prove them wrong with Scripture, it's the only form of proof acceptable here.

3) Try to prove them wrong with anything else, and be banned. It's their forum, not yours.

And if you think you can plead that you have a right to "free speech", think again. That's in the Constitution, not the Bible, and as this place is not run or funded by any level of government, it does not apply here.

[HollowHead]

Re: Follow the Word of God, not your "conscience"

So you do the same thing, and accuse them of being hypocrites? Hypocrite.

You don't like something you read hear? You have three options:

1) Leave. Little red "x" on your browser window. Use it.

2) Prove them wrong with Scripture, it's the only form of proof acceptable here.

3) Try to prove them wrong with anything else, and be banned. It's their forum, not yours.

And if you think you can plead that you have a right to "free speech", think again. That's in the Constitution, not the Bible, and as this place is not run or funded by any level of government, it does not apply here.

1) I'm not going to leave, this type of logic affects my life in a negative way and affects a lot of other people lives this way too.

2) Fine here's something: So why all the unbelivers are doomed if there are people who never EVER heard about God and by not knowing His existence do not belive Him? It's cleary the caracteristics of a magnificent sadist.

[John North]

Re: Follow the Word of God, not your "conscience"

2) Fine here's something: So why all the unbelivers are doomed if there are people who never EVER heard about God and by not knowing His existence do not belive Him? It's cleary the caracteristics of a magnificent sadist.

By scripture we mean that you should be able to back up whatever you say with a reference to the Bible (KJV 1611). By scripture we do NOT mean that you should use your own twisted logic.

If you make a claim and it contradicts what we think is right, point at the part of the Bible that proves you correct and us wrong.

[HollowHead]

Re: Follow the Word of God, not your "conscience"

By scripture we mean that you should be able to back up whatever you say with a reference to the Bible (KJV 1611). By scripture we do NOT mean that you should use your own twisted logic.

If you make a claim and it contradicts what we think is right, point at the part of the Bible that proves you correct and us wrong.

Twisted logic? Humans did re-write the book, they could have simply put their twisted logic in the bible. If you stopped and thought about that.
Instead of using your conscience to read the book and follow it like decisions...

[Nobar King]

Re: Follow the Word of God, not your "conscience"

Twisted logic? Humans did re-write the book, they could have simply put their twisted logic in the bible. If you stopped and thought about that.
Instead of using your conscience to read the book and follow it like decisions...

Millions of Bible scholars have stopped and thought about that for thousands of years. You would think that one of them would have pointed out any inaccuracies in translation.

[HollowHead]

Re: Follow the Word of God, not your "conscience"

Millions of Bible scholars have stopped and thought about that for thousands of years. You would think that one of them would have pointed out any inaccuracies in translation.

Yep, they couldn't. Maybe because who re-write it was smart enough to erase all clues of how it really was written.
There are a lot of rapist priests out there who says we couldn't have some of these twisted minds in the past too?

[Didymus Much]

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...2) Fine here's something: So why all the unbelivers are doomed if there are people who never EVER heard about God and by not knowing His existence do not belive Him?...

Didn't I tell you to use Scripture?

Here's a bit for ya; Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."

Now, as to why all the unbelievers who only disbelieve because they've never been exposed to the Bible and it's teachings, Romans 9:21 "Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?" This tells us that there have to be some condemned to Hell; if no one was destined to go there, why would God have created Hell in the first place?

... It's cleary the caracteristics of a magnificent sadist.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Follow the Word of God, not your "conscience"

Yep, they couldn't. Maybe because who re-write it was smart enough to erase all clues of how it really was written.
There are a lot of rapist priests out there who says we couldn't have some of these twisted minds in the past too?

I'm confused. You think there's a trail of clues to be found somewhere in the past? I think you've been reading too much of Dan Brown, dear. This sounds like a grand conspiracy to me, and in all honesty, it doesn't take that much cleverness to read and believe the Holy Bible.

[MitzaLizalor]

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I'm confused. You think there's a trail of clues to be found somewhere in the past? I think you've been reading too much of Dan Brown, dear. This sounds like a grand conspiracy to me, and in all honesty, it doesn't take that much cleverness to read and believe the Holy Bible.

There IS a trail of clues though. Ancient documents, fragments, whole Books and complete Bibles preserved in museums or discovered by archæologists. Passages carved in stone from ancient monuments (often used as builders rubble & quite well preserved, although broken up) record testimony from other cultures (Egyptian stelæ for example). The longer we look for them the more we find and they are all the same. This myth of "re-written by man" simply does not hold up. Why oh why do these heathens not check their facts, Mrs Etheldreda?

It's so easy to do but no, they'd rather expose their ignorance and spout nonsense.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Follow the Word of God, not your "conscience"

1) I'm not going to leave, this type of logic affects my life in a negative way and affects a lot of other people lives this way too.

2) Fine here's something: So why all the unbelivers are doomed if there are people who never EVER heard about God and by not knowing His existence do not belive Him? It's cleary the caracteristics of a magnificent sadist.

Because He makes the rules and He said so.

See John 3:18.

Yep, they couldn't. Maybe because who re-write it was smart enough to erase all clues of how it really was written.
There are a lot of rapist priests out there who says we couldn't have some of these twisted minds in the past too?

You want to play logic? OK, let's play logic.

The Bible claims to be God's inerrant Word. So, either:

1. God has preserved His Word accurately, and the Bible says what He wants it to say; or

2. God is unable to preserve His Word accurately, and is not omnipotent; or

3. God would rather we all guess what's right and wrong, with the promise of unending torment in Hell if we guess wrong.

In the case of #2 or #3, that "god" would hardly be worth worshiping. The one in #2 is a wimp, and the one in #3 is a sadistic monster who won't even give us a fair chance.

Which of these three options do you believe to be true, and why?

[Shimei]

Re: Follow the Word of God, not your "conscience"

Excuse me for not having read through the all the posts. The title though makes me think. As a former drug addict, I can rationalize the reasons for my success having quitting da' drugs. I could attribute the success to rational reasons, such as community support, superb leadership, and the reason I type this, conviction by the Holy Spirit to my conscience. There's not much really to expand on conviction wise, other than that many tears had been shed in and out of church during my course while having an addiction. There's a poem I'd like to share on this subject, anyone who has been through the "fire" probably will understand this. I for one love the conviction of the Holy Spirit on my conscience, God I love this, it is the reason why I attend church... tell me how to grow, how to improve, and what I have done wrong so that I may improve:

I sat alone with my conscience

In a place where time had ceased,

And we talked of my former living

In the land where the years increased,

And I felt I should have to answer

The question it put to me,

And to face the answer and question

Through all eternity.

The ghost of forgotten actions

Came floating before my sight,

And things that I thought were dead things

Were alive with a terrible might;

And the vision of all my past life

Was an awful thing to face,

Alone with my conscience sitting

In that solemn silent place.

And I know of the future Judgment,

How dreadful soe'er it be,

To sit alone with my conscience

Will be judgment enough for me.

Charles William Stubbs, 1845-1912

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Follow the Word of God, not your "conscience"

[I've removed the poetry, no-one needs to read that twice]

Charles William Stubbs, 1845-1912

Christians do not worship poets, especially not Anglican Bishops.

Next you'll be suggesting that Mary Shelley concocted a chaste standard for living!

[Matthew Hopkins]

Re: Follow the Word of God, not your "conscience"

Christians do not worship poets, especially not Anglican Bishops.

Next you'll be suggesting that Mary Shelley concocted a chaste standard for living!

Amen. Bad Anglican devotional verse is worse than awful.

Perhaps Sister Shimei would find true solace in the psalms of King David. I hesistate to recommend the Song of Solomon, as it is often misinterpreted by fornicators.

YBIC

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Follow the Word of God, not your "conscience"

Amen. Bad Anglican devotional verse is worse than awful.

Perhaps Sister Shimei would find true solace in the psalms of King David. I hesistate to recommend the Song of Solomon, as it is often misinterpreted by fornicators.

YBIC

Thank you for confirming that Mr Hopking. I had suspected no better from their warped minds. Generally those witches find pornographic display in everything, even The Word Of God. No wonder they invented autoerotic asphyxiation!

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