[Levi Jones]

Re: Stoning Should be the Method of Capital Punishment

Yes, we are to refrain from sin. That does not mean we conquer it. Also, you are not pure and are already tainted with sin.

I'm going to type this slowly for you to understand it. If 1 John 3 says we cannot sin once we are believers in Christ, how can you say that we do?

Does that mean no one has ever known Christ? If so, why even bother trying?

There is no twisting of scripture occuring.

Again, the passage from 1 John 3 is telling us to run from sin. You are reading into the text. You are missing the context of it.

Where is the word run in this? Where does the term avoid sin come into play here? In false Christian world, I guess words don't mean what they mean.

6Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 7Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

• Genesis 6:5: "The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."
• Genesis 8:21: "And when the LORD smelled the pleasing aroma, the LORD said in his heart, "I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man’s heart is evil from his youth. Neither will I ever again strike down every living creature as I have done.
• Job 15:14: What is man, that he can be pure? Or he who is born of a woman, that he can be righteous?

[s]15 Behold, God puts no trust in his holy ones, and the heavens are not pure in his sight; how much less one who is abominable and corrupt, a man who drinks injustice like water!

• Job 25:4-6: How then can man be in the right before God? How can he who is born of woman be pure? 5 Behold, even the moon is not bright, and the stars are not pure in his eyes; 6 how much less man, who is a maggot, and the son of man, who is a worm!"
• Psalms 51:5: "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me."
• Psalms 58:3: "The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from birth, speaking lies."
• Ecclesiastes 7:20: "Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins."
• Ecclesiastes 9:3: "This is an evil in all that is done under the sun, that the same event happens to all. Also, the hearts of the children of man are full of evil, and madness is in their hearts while they live, and after that they go to the dead."
• Jeremiah 17:9: "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?"
• Jeremiah 13:23: : "Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots? Neither can you do good who are accustomed to doing evil."
• Isaiah 64:6 "We have all become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous deeds are like a polluted garment. We all fade like a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away"
• Isaiah 64:7 "There is no one who calls upon your name, who rouses himself to take hold of you, for you have hidden your face from us and have made us melt in the hand of our iniquities."
• Isaiah 64:8 "But now, O LORD, you are our Father; we are the clay, and you are our potter; we are all the work of your hand."

This is so typical of a false Christian. They quote the Old Testament when it happens to agree with them, but mock it as the "old covenant" and say we don't have to follow it when they disagree.

• Mark 7:21-23: "For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within, and they defile a person."

• John 3:19: "And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their deeds were evil."
• John 6:44: "[Jesus said,] 'No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.'"
• John 6:64-65: "[Jesus said,] 'But there are some of you who do not believe.' (For Jesus knew from the beginning who those were who did not believe, and who it was who would betray him.) And he said, 'This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.'"
• John 8:34: "Jesus answered them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin.'"
• Romans 3:10-11: "None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God."
• Romans 8:7-8: "For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God."
• 1 Corinthians 2:14: "The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned."
• Ephesians 2:1-3: "And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience - among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind." (our depravity being emphasised in the concept of being "dead"; only something external -i.e. God- can give a dead man life)
• Titus 3:3: "For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated by others and hating one another."

Every one of these scriptures you post have to do with prior to Salvation.

After Salvation we cannot sin, QED repeatedly.

I ask you to look at this.

Quoting Isaiah.

You don't believe in the OT.

This passage says, you and I are both sinners. We are made righteous through our faith in Christ in addition to our efforts to run from sin. Also, read this.

It says we were sinners. There's a huge difference.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Stoning Should be the Method of Capital Punishment

Bible Defender, I suggest you read this before you start with the diarrhea of the mouth.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Stoning Should be the Method of Capital Punishment

Face it Pastor, he's just another false Christian who doesn't want to give up his Sin. Like the catholics, he thinks he can sin all week, beg forgiveness on Saturday and everything's cool Sunday morning.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

It sickens me.

[TC Patriot]

Re: Stoning Should be the Method of Capital Punishment

Face it Pastor, he's just another false Christian who doesn't want to give up his Sin. Like the catholics, he thinks he can sin all week, beg forgiveness on Saturday and everything's cool Sunday morning.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

It sickens me.

It's crazy. Some Cathylicker can go to some male pedophile in a dress and get "absolution" HA!

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Stoning Should be the Method of Capital Punishment

Bible Defender, if you want to come up with a proper Scripturally-based reply to any of the points we made, I'd be happy to see it. Your interpretation of the Bible is hideously flawed, but I respect your ability to hold a civilised conversation, so please feel free to continue defending your heresy.