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Default Re: Ancestry of Jesus - 04-12-2007, 02:47 PM

If you wanna debate on why there is no god, read Richard Dawkins' "The God Delusion". It'll make you see sense.
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Default Re: Ancestry of Jesus - 04-12-2007, 03:19 PM

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If you wanna debate on why there is no god, read Richard Dawkins' "The God Delusion". It'll make you see sense.
I've read part of it.
It's a crappy and satanic book, and it will be included at the next book burning.
And he doesn't present ANYTHING that could disprove God.. And neither could anyone, because God is as real as you and me.


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If you wanna debate on why there is no god, read Richard Dawkins' "The God Delusion". It'll make you see sense.
How exactly is us reading a book - a deaf, dumb book, which cannot respond to anything we say to it - a debate? A debate is where two parties exchange their views, reading a book is a one-way transfer of ideas from an author to a passive reader - just the way you Nietzschean atheist-fascists like it.


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Default Re: Ancestry of Jesus - 04-12-2007, 04:40 PM

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How exactly is us reading a book - a deaf, dumb book, which cannot respond to anything we say to it - a debate? A debate is where two parties exchange their views, reading a book is a one-way transfer of ideas from an author to a passive reader - just the way you Nietzschean atheist-fascists like it.
Read the book and then we can debate, however, you nay be atheist by the time you finish it.

Read "part of it"? What "part"? The title? You just think it's satanic because he goes through many, many "Arguments for God's Existence" and one by one explains why they're simply not an argument.

And before you continue to call me a fascist, I'd like to declare that I'm not. It "exalts the nation above the individual", and I'm all for humanism. I can't be fascist and humanist. I choose humanist. Atheism is frequently associated with humanism anyways.
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Read the book and then we can debate, however, you may be atheist by the time you finish it.


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Read "part of it"? What "part"? The title? You just think it's satanic because he goes through many, many "Arguments for God's Existence" and one by one explains why they're simply not an argument.
Part of a book would naturally refer to part of the contents.
It's been quite awhile since I had to explain such obvious things, but then it's also been awhile since I communicated with anyone who's intelligence is that of a 6year old...


The arguments I've seen (but as I said, I didn't read it all.) "debunked" by him are the most stupid and false ones available, so very well done of him..

Explain this then, if you think you know anything:
If the universe started with the "big bang", what caused it?
And what was before the big bang? Nothing?

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And before you continue to call me a fascist, I'd like to declare that I'm not. It "exalts the nation above the individual", and I'm all for humanism. I can't be fascist and humanist. I choose humanist. Atheism is frequently associated with humanism anyways.
Stalin was an atheist, and what a shining example of humanity and morals he was.


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If you wanna debate on why there is no god, read Richard Dawkins' "The God Delusion". It'll make you see sense.
OK, I'll read your Dawkins book if you read Lee Stroebel's "The Case for a Creator".
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If you wanna debate on why there is no god, read Richard Dawkins' "The God Delusion". It'll make you see sense.
You expect us to poison our minds with that satanic claptrap?

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You expect us to poison our minds with that satanic claptrap?

If you want to gain Salvation©, then you need to read the Holy Bible.
Interesting that I agreed to read it in exchange for her reading the Godly Lee Stroebel's "Case for a Creator", and she immediately quit the Forum!

Perhaps his irrefutable arguments blew her delicate little mind.
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Default Re: Ancestry of Jesus - 06-23-2007, 02:57 AM

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There's a point to being an atheist? News to me. What is it, to see how much you can enrage Jesus?
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Oh, so we're noy enraging you? Because if we were, then you'd technically be claiming to be Jesus.

And I believe that's a "Blasphemie."

But I can still do it.

Cause I'm an atheist.

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Oh, so we're noy enraging you? Because if we were, then you'd technically be claiming to be Jesus.

And I believe that's a "Blasphemie."

But I can still do it.

Cause I'm an atheist.

*Throws a "I'm God and you're Not! Eat a Taco" party.*
You ignorant unsaved trash can't even read a post correctly.

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Default Re: Ancestry of Jesus - 06-23-2007, 11:21 PM

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You ignorant unsaved trash can't even read a post correctly.

God gave you two eyes and one mouth, He meant for you to use them in that proportion.
Sir, I have read the post. And I used my ligical atheist mind to make the assertion that if you become mad at what I'm saying, you're calling yourself Jesus.

And you have the gall to call ME ignorant?

HA!

What a joke, you saved-from-nothing-but-my-wonderful-arguements guy.

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Sir, I have read the post. And I used my ligical atheist mind to make the assertion that if you become mad at what I'm saying, you're calling yourself Jesus.

And you have the gall to call ME ignorant?

HA!

What a joke, you saved-from-nothing-but-my-wonderful-arguements guy.

^_________^

I censored myself for my own good. 3 infractions for 1 day is enough.
This is just what is wrong with your fundamentalist atheism, you are seeing things that are not there. Show me just how you conclude from Brother Temperance's post that he is in the least bit enraged. His exact quote is "to see how much you can enrage Jesus?". To any "logical" mind that would be "Jesus" that would be "enraged", not Brother Temperance. And how exactly would you conclude that Brother Temperance is claiming to be Jesus? This is grasping for straws and certainly a figment of your imagination.

And now you are asserting that anyone who calls attention you your obvious mistakes is somehow "becoming mad" and thereby claiming to be Jesus? By your "ligic" anyone who disagrees with you is somehow claiming to be Jesus.

I not only have the gall, but the mitigated temerity to raise your "ignorant" status to feckless imbecile.


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This is just what is wrong with your fundamentalist atheism, you are seeing things that are not there. Show me just how you conclude from Brother Temperance's post that he is in the least bit enraged. His exact quote is "to see how much you can enrage Jesus?". To any "logical" mind that would be "Jesus" that would be "enraged", not Brother Temperance. And how exactly would you conclude that Brother Temperance is claiming to be Jesus? This is grasping for straws and certainly a figment of your imagination.

And now you are asserting that anyone who calls attention you your obvious mistakes is somehow "becoming mad" and thereby claiming to be Jesus? By your "ligic" anyone who disagrees with you is somehow claiming to be Jesus.

I not only have the gall, but the mitigated temerity to raise your "ignorant" status to feckless imbecile.
Excuse the typo, maybe if you people allowed us to edit posts, there'd be less of those little buggers running around.

Next.

He claimed that "There's a point to being an atheist? News to me. What is it, to see how much you can enrage Jesus?"

Therefore, by his thinking, atheists exist only to enrage JESUS.

In his OWN words, he's saying our posts are ONLY ment to enrage JESUS.

If HE get's mad at what we're saying, he's basically claiming to be JESUS.

Therefore you chris-chins are no longer allowed to be mad at us, because you'd be commiting a blasphemy against you're "lord and savior."
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Default Re: Ancestry of Jesus - 06-24-2007, 06:09 PM

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You expect us to poison our minds with that satanic claptrap?

If you want to gain Salvation©, then you need to read the Holy Bible.
So..If I want to be pure and holy and all things True Christian, I just have to read a book?

Really? That seems easy.
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Oh, so we're noy enraging you? Because if we were, then you'd technically be claiming to be Jesus.
Did you intend to write "now", "not", or "soy"? It's impossible to say.
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This is just what is wrong with your fundamentalist atheism, you are seeing things that are not there. Show me just how you conclude from Brother Temperance's post that he is in the least bit enraged. His exact quote is "to see how much you can enrage Jesus?". To any "logical" mind that would be "Jesus" that would be "enraged", not Brother Temperance. And how exactly would you conclude that Brother Temperance is claiming to be Jesus? This is grasping for straws and certainly a figment of your imagination.
Well, you certainly seem to have shot his argument down in flames. I'll be interested to see where his atheist logic will lead him next - will he claim that I shot his argument down in flames, that Jesus did, or Miss Hikari did?
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He claimed that "There's a point to being an atheist? News to me. What is it, to see how much you can enrage Jesus?"

Therefore, by his thinking, atheists exist only to enrage JESUS.

In his OWN words, he's saying our posts are ONLY ment to enrage JESUS.

If HE get's mad at what we're saying, he's basically claiming to be JESUS.
That's a logical, or perhaps a ligical, fallacy. Cow milk is ONLY meant to feed baby cows, so I suppose anyone who has milk with their cornflakes is basically claiming to be a cow?
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So..If I want to be pure and holy and all things True Christian, I just have to read a book?
Read a book AND follow all its commands. You cannot be Saved without reading the Bible, but reading the Bible does not automatically make one Saved.


O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.


God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
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Default Re: Ancestry of Jesus - 06-24-2007, 06:29 PM

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Did you intend to write "now", "not", or "soy"? It's impossible to say.

And I don't believe that's a "word", or at least not in English, anyway.

Well, you certainly seem to have shot his argument down in flames. I'll be interested to see where his atheist logic will lead him next - will he claim that I shot his argument down in flames, that Jesus did, or Miss Hikari did?

That's a logical, or perhaps a ligical, fallacy. Cow milk is ONLY meant to feed baby cows, so I suppose anyone who has milk with their cornflakes is basically claiming to be a cow?

Read a book AND follow all its commands. You cannot be Saved without reading the Bible, but reading the Bible does not automatically make one Saved.
But Ezekiel said Read the book.

I think that you may not be truly saved Temperance, otherwise, ye would follow all the commandments.

Do you think you're saved?
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Default Re: Ancestry of Jesus - 06-24-2007, 06:33 PM

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Read a book AND follow all its commands. You cannot be Saved without reading the Bible, but reading the Bible does not automatically make one Saved.
So, I can read ANY book?

And do as it tells me, and I'll be saved?

I read Eragon, and I follow the commandments, specifically not to use Gramayre for evil purposes, and not to use lies to make people follow me.

And I can claim this to be MY Bible.

Therefore I'm saved.

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Default Re: Ancestry of Jesus - 06-24-2007, 06:36 PM

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So, I can read ANY book?

And do as it tells me, and I'll be saved?

I read Eragon, and I follow the commandments, specifically not to use Gramayre for evil purposes, and not to use lies to make people follow me.

And I can claim this to be MY Bible.

Therefore I'm saved.

PRAISE SAPHIRA!

PRAISE ERAGON!
PRAISE ERAGON, THE DRAGONRIDER!

Ahaha. I read and follow that book as well.

So if I read the Harry Potter series, and follow the school's rules in the book....I'm also saved.

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Default Re: Ancestry of Jesus - 06-24-2007, 06:40 PM

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I think that you may not be truly saved Temperance, otherwise, ye would follow all the commandments.
What commandments do I not follow?
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So, I can read ANY book?
No, that's why I specifically stated the Holy Bible, as did Pastor Ezekiel.
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Bestial pornography? This is one of those things I'm happier not knowing about, isn't it?


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Default Re: Ancestry of Jesus - 06-24-2007, 06:44 PM

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What commandments do I not follow?

No, that's why I specifically stated the Holy Bible, as did Pastor Ezekiel.

Bestial pornography? This is one of those things I'm happier not knowing about, isn't it?
Do humans not ride horses for travel? Is this beastiality?
Do humans not drive cars for travel? Is this a form of mechaniality?

Sir, you cannot seem to understand the rider part.

I call someone who rides a horse a horse rider, does this mean beastiality?
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