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  • Yes: Bible problem! Should you spare the rod and thus hate your child? Yes, the Bible says you should hate

    Yes, it is Harsha Shah here. I am soon going to be wishing you happy holidays, yes. I am hoping that I am not offending you but I am having a problem with your bible, yes I am. Yes, one of my pupils is not doing well and I am thinking that he is being bruised and yes perhaps his parents are hitting him. Yes, they are and I have been contacting the social services and they are doing what they can, yes. I am hoping that this sad story is not offending you. I was talking with the authorities and the parents had been saying that they are christians and that the bible is telling that they should be hitting their child and I am thinking that it is terrible, yes it is.

    I was also reading the Bible and yes it is there it is in the proverbs chapter 13 verse 24 it is like this He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes. Yes it is there. I am thinking that it is not good to be hating your child but your bible is saying that in fact you should be hating him. It is in the Luke gospel chapter 14 verse 26 and it is If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

    Yes. I have been thinking and my thinking is going like this. Yes.
    If you are not hitting your child you are hating him. But you are supposed to be hating her. So the best way to be pleasing your jesus is not to hit your child and that way everything will be all right.

    I am certain that I have been reading this correctly but I am sorry if I am offending you. You must stop hitting children is what these two verses are saying. I am now understanding that your Bible is like the story of the blind men and the elephant. One is touching the trunk and thinking that it is a boulder and another one is feeling the tail and thinking that it is a broom. I am now seeing that you need to be reading many verses. One is saying that not hitting a child is the same as hating him but in fact not hating is exactly what Jesus is wanting. Yes.
    "Ecclesiastes 3:7
    A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak."
    Yes. Women are saving lives. It is time we are speaking! Yes!

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    Re: Yes: Bible problem! Should you spare the rod and thus hate your child? Yes, the Bible says you should

    Harsha--It is common for Hindus like you to think there are contradictions in the Bible. Really, you should be coming to our Sunday sermons. Pastor Zeke scolds people in the pews who think there are contradictions--everyone leaves church convinced the idea of contradictions is a tool of Satan.
    Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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      Re: Yes: Bible problem! Should you spare the rod and thus hate your child? Yes, the Bible says you should

      Originally posted by Harsha Shah View Post
      Yes, it is Harsha Shah here. I am soon going to be wishing you happy holidays, yes. I am hoping that I am not offending you but I am having a problem with your bible, yes I am. Yes, one of my pupils is not doing well and I am thinking that he is being bruised and yes perhaps his parents are hitting him. Yes, they are and I have been contacting the social services and they are doing what they can, yes. I am hoping that this sad story is not offending you. I was talking with the authorities and the parents had been saying that they are christians and that the bible is telling that they should be hitting their child and I am thinking that it is terrible, yes it is.

      I was also reading the Bible and yes it is there it is in the proverbs chapter 13 verse 24 it is like this He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes. Yes it is there. I am thinking that it is not good to be hating your child but your bible is saying that in fact you should be hating him. It is in the Luke gospel chapter 14 verse 26 and it is If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

      Yes. I have been thinking and my thinking is going like this. Yes.
      If you are not hitting your child you are hating him. But you are supposed to be hating her. So the best way to be pleasing your jesus is not to hit your child and that way everything will be all right.

      I am certain that I have been reading this correctly but I am sorry if I am offending you. You must stop hitting children is what these two verses are saying. I am now understanding that your Bible is like the story of the blind men and the elephant. One is touching the trunk and thinking that it is a boulder and another one is feeling the tail and thinking that it is a broom. I am now seeing that you need to be reading many verses. One is saying that not hitting a child is the same as hating him but in fact not hating is exactly what Jesus is wanting. Yes.



      The Bible is perfectly consistent. Unlike your use of capitalization.
      READ THE BIBLE

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        Re: Yes: Bible problem! Should you spare the rod and thus hate your child? Yes, the Bible says you should

        Perhaps there's some confusion here. Self flagellation is voguish in some quarters and often to an insane extent. If the child is the father of the man and if monks or friars channel the inner child Mark 10:15 then in their delusion it's probably the father (themselves as a child) who is punishing them. Since they repudiate Genesis 1:28, a direct Commandment from God, following His later advice would achieve the opposite of what He intended.

        A bit like doing arithmetic with negative numbers.

        Being fruitful and multiplying in their paradigm means being celibate and lying. It follows then that discipline itself is a form of hate and that smiting their adult selves with chains and spikes is a form of loathing Christ. Other cultures have similar carryings-on I Kings 18:28 which are very easy to identify but are the result of, rather than the intent to cause, immense abhorrence of The Lord. Satan is very much at work, even if the idols don't have eleven heads and twenty-five arms.

        Joel 1:17 The seed is rotten under their clods, the garners are laid desolate, the barns are broken down; for the corn is withered.

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