[bonzo2 (On Moderation)]

Re: God Hates Cripples

For what?? So we can keep them alive so they'll need more money?? I just don't see the use for crips; somebody drooling on themselves and peeing in a bag is only funny for so long. If the top of their head was flat you could at least set a beer down on them; but other than that I have no idea why they're here.

Your head looks pretty flat my friend!

To quote from Silver Birch ' Pain and suffering are regarded as miseries, they are not. They have divine parts to play in the evolution of the individual' To spiritually progress who need to understand what it is like to suffer - a person with a learning disibility is a soul that as choosen to walk that pathway as a means of evolving spiritually.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Your head looks pretty flat my friend!

Allright, moron.
Your lack of manners and wits has just earned you an infraction, watch your language in God's own forum.

[bonzo2 (On Moderation)]

Re: God Hates Cripples

What about the content of the post got anything meaningful to say about that?

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: God Hates Cripples

What about the content of the post got anything meaningful to say about that?

If you with "content" refer to some "quote" from the person who doesn't exist except in the head of some possessed maniac, then yes.
Stop posting such quotes.


If you have any argument, provide chapter and verse from the Holy KJV1611 Bible in support of it instead.
We're not interested in fictitious quotes here, after all..
You don't see US quoting from comic books now do you?

[Rev. Dr. Davidson]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Your head looks pretty flat my friend!

To quote from Silver Birch ' Pain and suffering are regarded as miseries, they are not. They have divine parts to play in the evolution of the individual' To spiritually progress who need to understand what it is like to suffer - a person with a learning disibility is a soul that as choosen to walk that pathway as a means of evolving spiritually.

You're saying that a retard or cripple has chosen to be that way to come closer to God? You truly are warped.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Your head looks pretty flat my friend!

To quote from Silver Birch ' Pain and suffering are regarded as miseries, they are not. They have divine parts to play in the evolution of the individual' To spiritually progress who need to understand what it is like to suffer - a person with a learning disibility is a soul that as choosen to walk that pathway as a means of evolving spiritually.

Who on God's green Earth is this "Silver Birch" fool? I don't know where that Injun got this nonsense, but it's certainly not biblical!

[R-R-R]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Who on God's green Earth is this "Silver Birch" fool?

Supposedly it's an Indian spirit (apparently with philosophical ambitions ) that communicates through a medium (or a schizophrenic nutcase).

Who knows?

[Rev. Dr. Davidson]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Who on God's green Earth is this "Silver Birch" fool? I don't know where that Injun got this nonsense, but it's certainly not biblical!

Apparently this "Silver Birch" character is some type of spirit. It was "channeled" through some unGodly Brit homer by the name of Maurice Barbanell. This person wrote some books, all of which are mostly out of print, and some idiot on angelfire.com dedicated a website to him(using the Silver Birch name).

He was born to Jewish parents in a poor area of London's East End. His mother was devoutly religious but his father, a barber was an atheist so Barbanell heard many arguments about religion during his early years.

Barbanell attended a seance in which a medium, Mrs Blaustein, was entranced by various spirits of different nationalities. He was not impressed, and on a second visit fell asleep. Barbanell apologised, believing that either boredom or tiredness had been responsible, but the other circle members informed him that he had not been asleep but had been in a trance and a Red Indian had spoken through him.

Apparently LSD was big in London. This guy came along not many years after Gardner made up his own religion.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Your head looks pretty flat my friend!

To quote from Silver Birch ' Pain and suffering are regarded as miseries, they are not. They have divine parts to play in the evolution of the individual' To spiritually progress who need to understand what it is like to suffer - a person with a learning disibility is a soul that as choosen to walk that pathway as a means of evolving spiritually.

So you're saying that, next time I see a cripple, I should bear in mind that they've chosen to suffer as a means of "spiritual evolution", and I should tip them out of their chair and give them a quick boot in the ribs, to help them along their spiritual pathway? Will do.

[bonzo2 (On Moderation)]

Re: God Hates Cripples

So you're saying that, next time I see a cripple, I should bear in mind that they've chosen to suffer as a means of "spiritual evolution", and I should tip them out of their chair and give them a quick boot in the ribs, to help them along their spiritual pathway? Will do.

Thats Christian of you

[jalmquist (On Moderation)]

Re: God Hates Cripples

What the Bible says about Cripples

Ex.4:11
Who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

Lev.21:17-23
Whosoever ... hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken; No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God. ... Only he shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries.

Given these Holy Scriptures, why are we being forced by demoncrats to spend our hard earned tax dollars on such nonsense as "sheltered workshops" and wheelchairs?

Or your should realize this is something they have no control over and shouldnt be hated for it. No amount of spiritual healing could ever fix them and therefore you should not hate them but in a sense feel sorry for them. I know the pain they go thru everyday, I used to be a TA in High school for a class of mentally challenged kids and it was really heart breaking to see some of them.

God has not chosen for them to be crippled they were born that way but then again you belive the opposite.

Take it like this; hypothetically speaking of course. I find out were you live, go to your house and beat you with a baseball bat till your an inch away from death. But I dont kill you, instead of dying you end up mentally crippled and are forced to be in a wheel chair for the rest of your life. Are you therefore a sinner and an abomination to the human race? Or are you the same person just with a different perspective on life.

[eliot mayfield]

Re: God Hates Cripples

The Lord is very clear about what should happen to those He has chosen to smite with crippliness:
Deuteronomy 28:27 The LORD will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed.

28 The LORD shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart: 29 And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee.

"And no man shall save thee". Not "no man except the liberals", not "no man except the Big Government"... if the Lord wanted people to help the disabled, He'd have let us know.

What are emerods exactly? Yes, they could well be what you are dreading. And take this to heart: You can't be saved!
emerods: Hemorrhoids; piles; tumors; boils

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Emerods

I don't know about you, but I'd hate for God to inflict me with an incurrable case of emerods. Maybe that's why they can't find osma. He's hiding in a cave going insane for an incurrable case of emerods! Praise be!


But this passage puzzles me:
1 Samuel 6:4
Then said they, What shall be the trespass offering which we shall return to him? They answered, Five golden emerods, and five golden mice, according to the number of the lords of the Philistines: for one plague was on you all, and on your lords.

How do you get golden emerods? The ways of the lord are great indeed!

[Rev. Dr. Davidson]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Take it like this; hypothetically speaking of course. I find out were you live, go to your house and beat you with a baseball bat till your an inch away from death. But I dont kill you, instead of dying you end up mentally crippled and are forced to be in a wheel chair for the rest of your life. Are you therefore a sinner and an abomination to the human race? Or are you the same person just with a different perspective on life.

In this case, you would be the sinner. If this 'hypothetical' person was saved before you harmed him/her, then they were already assured of a place in paradise. If you did this to a non-believer or pagan, while not prescribed, you are actually doing God's will.(Even though you didn't stone them.)

The quoted scripture talks about people already suffering God's wrath for something they or their parents did. They are not allowed to apporach the altar of God.

Also, we don't hate these people. We just recognize that they are damned. Many of these children born with afflictions are being punished because their parents indulged in sin.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Your head looks pretty flat my friend!

To quote from Silver Birch ' Pain and suffering are regarded as miseries, they are not. They have divine parts to play in the evolution of the individual' To spiritually progress who need to understand what it is like to suffer - a person with a learning disibility is a soul that as choosen to walk that pathway as a means of evolving spiritually.

I must admit to being a bit confused here. Did "Silver Birch" have a learning disability and therefore "progressed" spiritually, or did "bonzo2" adopt a leaning disability in order to evolve spiritually? Did either of them "choose" a "learning disability"?

Sounds to me like it's time to "choose" Jesus.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Or your should realize this is something they have no control over and shouldnt be hated for it. No amount of spiritual healing could ever fix them and therefore you should not hate them but in a sense feel sorry for them. I know the pain they go thru everyday, I used to be a TA in High school for a class of mentally challenged kids and it was really heart breaking to see some of them.

We don't hate them. We recognize that God has stated that they are to be cast out from His congregation, which means that they are condemned to eternal hellfire.

I speculate that God knew that they would be sinners and unSaved before they were born, and chose in His infinite mercy to let them know up front that they weren't getting into Heaven.

God has not chosen for them to be crippled they were born that way but then again you belive the opposite.

Are you saying that things happen that God cannot control?!

That, friend, is blasphemous. I suggest you rethink that.

Take it like this; hypothetically speaking of course. I find out were you live, go to your house and beat you with a baseball bat till your an inch away from death. But I dont kill you, instead of dying you end up mentally crippled and are forced to be in a wheel chair for the rest of your life. Are you therefore a sinner and an abomination to the human race? Or are you the same person just with a different perspective on life.

Rev. Dr. D has already addressed this.