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Default Re: Could Jesus Love ME, Catman08?! - 03-21-2007, 10:56 PM

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Doesn't your God preach forgive and Forget??
I'd love to see you try to prove that with scripture!


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Default Re: Could Jesus Love ME, Catman08?! - 03-21-2007, 10:59 PM

Its all I can remember.. I'm sure he said forgive and forget? I know in the old bible it says an eye for an eye. Isn't there somthing about turning the other cheek to?

Ah but we escape the point. The Jews had to kill Jesus. So If God is all knowing he knew they were going to do it, as the point to Jesus. He had to die right? Naturlich I mean thats what makes him Jesus. So how can they be held responsible for something they had to do?


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Default Re: Could Jesus Love ME, Catman08?! - 03-21-2007, 11:01 PM

God knowing that they would betray Him doesn't mean that they weren't responsible for it! If the weatherman says that it will rain tomorrow, is it his fault for making it rain? No! God knew beforehand that the Jews would betray Jesus, but it wasn't His fault! Besides, as SalvationSeeker pointed out, the Jews themselves even admit to having betrayed Jesus and asked to be hated forever. If that doesn't tie it up in a nice little package, I don't know what does. You're just ignoring the truth willingly here.


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Default Re: Could Jesus Love ME, Catman08?! - 03-21-2007, 11:09 PM

I'm not saying it was Gods fault. Oh man this point is lost on you isn't it?


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Default Re: Could Jesus Love ME, Catman08?! - 03-21-2007, 11:13 PM

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I'm not saying it was Gods fault. Oh man this point is lost on you isn't it?
What point? You lack a point.
The only thing you seem to be doing while we share the message of Jesus love for mankind with you:
Is put your chubby fingers in your ears and going "la la la"..


Understand harlot, that God doesn't need you at all. He can kill you the next second and not miss you in the least.
You however, need Him! He is the ONLY way for you to save your accursed soul from hell!


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Default Re: Could Jesus Love ME, Catman08?! - 03-21-2007, 11:23 PM

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If the jews didn't kill Jesus he wouldn't have been the saviour of man kind. So they had to do it! if they didn't jesus would have lived and died normally and then he would not have died for you sins and then be reborn. So you are wrong they did what they had to do for us. Besides the Jews didn't kill himthemselves. One jew betrayed him (judas-Again and he knew he had to do it,)

If we use your argument of letting murderors go free, then can we hold the murderers son resonsible? Doesn't your God preach forgive and Forget??
Dear Bucket Enchanter:

If you'd read the Bible, you'd know that the Jews demanded that Pontius Pilate have Jesus crucified. That is, tortured to death in the most horrible manner available at the time.

Pilate said he found no guilt in Jesus, but the Jews demanded that he set Barabbas (a murderer) free, and crucify Jesus. They then said, "let his blood be upon us".

Where in the Bible have you seen this "forgive and forget" doctrine?
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Its all I can remember.. I'm sure he said forgive and forget? I know in the old bible it says an eye for an eye. Isn't there somthing about turning the other cheek to?

Ah but we escape the point. The Jews had to kill Jesus. So If God is all knowing he knew they were going to do it, as the point to Jesus. He had to die right? Naturally I mean thats what makes him Jesus. So how can they be held responsible for something they had to do?
Perhaps you'd do well to read the Bible, then you'd know what it says. Including what it says about not suffering a witch to live . . .
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I didnt think it was a result. I thought a vast majority of Jews emmigrated because america was the slogan "land of opportunity" I thought more Jews went to Iseral after the Holocaust.
What on earth would they do that for? Why in the world would any sane, rational being, fleeing Europe to get away from anti-semitism and persecution, go to a godforsaken wasteland infested with explosive anti-semitic sand diggers? It just doesn't make sense. They went to America because that's where Wall Street is, and they'd hardly be Jews if they didn't control international markets, now would they?

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If the jews didn't kill Jesus he wouldn't have been the saviour of man kind. So they had to do it! if they didn't jesus would have lived and died normally and then he would not have died for you sins and then be reborn. So you are wrong they did what they had to do for us. Besides the Jews didn't kill himthemselves. One jew betrayed him (judas-Again and he knew he had to do it,)

If we use your argument of letting murderors go free, then can we hold the murderers son resonsible? Doesn't your God preach forgive and Forget??
God preaches forgiveness to those who repent. The Jews have never repented, and Jesus' blood is still upon them - and their children:
Matthew 27:25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.
Did Jews kill Jesus? Let's see:
1 Thessalonians 2:14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men...

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I'm not saying it was Gods fault. Oh man this point is lost on you isn't it?
So if it wasn't the Jews' fault, and it wasn't God's fault, then whose was it? Are you going to work out some twisted liberal way to blame the Republicans for this, too?


O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.


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