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Default That Noah's Ark was Round is a Boatload of Crap. - 01-25-2014, 08:16 PM

Here comes another attempt to discredit God's Word and scholar Ken Ham. Some nut thinks Noah's Ark was shaped like a tub instead of shaped like a boat.

Even more blasphemous is the idea it was made of rope and tar. Just because round boats made of rope were used in 5000 B.C. and some stone tablet gives instructions for making the Ark does not prove Noah's boat was round.

The Bible gives the dimensions of Noah's Ark. Ken Ham has invested millions on the fact that the Bible provides a shape and dimensions of the Ark. All he needs is some fool talking up a round Ark.

Then, there are the timbers found in several places exactly the length required for the Ark. Those are probably on display at various museums and they will all be harmed by publication of this so called "discovery".

Economically harmful talk like this has to stop.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/...ark-prototype/


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Default Re: That Noah's Ark was Round is a Boatload of Crap. - 01-25-2014, 09:31 PM

This is a joke, right? I mean, the headline is Ancient tablet reveals new details about Noah's Ark prototype, but the illustration just looks like a well-used cat's scratching post. I can't read that for the very good reason that it's not in any proper language.

And did 5000 B.C. even exist?

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Default Re: That Noah's Ark was Round is a Boatload of Crap. - 01-25-2014, 11:17 PM

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The Bible gives the dimensions of Noah's Ark. Ken Ham has invested millions on the fact that the Bible provides a shape and dimensions of the Ark.
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_http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/01/24/ancient-tablet-reveals-new-details-about-noah-ark-prototype
The tablet records a Mesopotamian god's instructions for building a giant vessel -- two-thirds the size of a soccer field in area -- made of rope, reinforced with wooden ribs and coated in bitumen.
What is it with these heathens?

I looked up "soccer" or 11-a-side football
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International matches . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . source
.. • length — 105m
.. • width — 68m
so that's 105 x 68 x = 4,760m
How on earth would 2 each of the unclean and 7 each of the clean animals + 7 each of all birds fit into a single deck rope coracle? Here is a coracle:
It is large enough to hold 1 elephant.
What do you think would happen if you put an elephant in there ? ? ?
Any rope construction, even coated with tar, would unform and decoil. When it rained, the coracle would fill up with water and a larger coracle would hold even more water. Can you imagine what of a soccer field full of water would weigh?

The historical record describes what material was used: gopher wood. It was 3 storeys high and its dimensions are included:
300 cubits length and 50 cubits breadth. Allowing ˝ metre per cubit, since it will be an early slightly longer cubit God's specifying here, we have

300 x ˝ = 150m
50 x ˝ = 25m

150 x 25 = 3,750m

and there's three decks

3,750 + 3,750 + 3,750 = 11,250m

ELEVEN THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY SQUARE METRES
AND A ROOF because God realises that birds have wings and just fly out of coracles especially when accompanied by bird eating tigers

The history is settled Genesis 6 and dimensions are preserved for us by God so that when charlatans start in with the "Bible? Shmyble, I dug up this clay tablet written in an extinct language and it says exactly what I knew it was going to say because there wasn't any Noah and your Bible is a crock" routine we can point out their error and in this case explain that we already know the size requirements for twos and sevens of all animals and birds and wriggling things and -the-size-of-a-soccer-field is woefully inadequate.
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Default Re: That Noah's Ark was Round is a Boatload of Crap. - 01-26-2014, 01:06 AM

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What is it with these heathens?

I looked up "soccer" or 11-a-side football


so that's 105 x 68 x = 4,760m
How on earth would 2 each of the unclean and 7 each of the clean animals + 7 each of all birds fit into a single deck rope coracle? Here is a coracle:
It is large enough to hold 1 elephant.
What do you think would happen if you put an elephant in there ? ? ?
Any rope construction, even coated with tar, would unform and decoil. When it rained, the coracle would fill up with water and a larger coracle would hold even more water. Can you imagine what of a soccer field full of water would weigh?

The historical record describes what material was used: gopher wood. It was 3 storeys high and its dimensions are included:
300 cubits length and 50 cubits breadth. Allowing ˝ metre per cubit, since it will be an early slightly longer cubit God's specifying here, we have

300 x ˝ = 150m
50 x ˝ = 25m

150 x 25 = 3,750m

and there's three decks

3,750 + 3,750 + 3,750 = 11,250m

ELEVEN THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY SQUARE METRES
AND A ROOF because God realises that birds have wings and just fly out of coracles especially when accompanied by bird eating tigers

The history is settled Genesis 6 and dimensions are preserved for us by God so that when charlatans start in with the "Bible? Shmyble, I dug up this clay tablet written in an extinct language and it says exactly what I knew it was going to say because there wasn't any Noah and your Bible is a crock" routine we can point out their error and in this case explain that we already know the size requirements for twos and sevens of all animals and birds and wriggling things and -the-size-of-a-soccer-field is woefully inadequate.
Godly observations, Mitza. The Bible tells how the Ark was constructed--why would someone make up this other stuff?

Another question, why would former Republican Presidental Candidate John McCain be photographed in a silly tub?


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Default Re: That Noah's Ark was Round is a Boatload of Crap. - 01-26-2014, 01:22 AM

I chose that picture because it colour co-ordinated with the background. I will have to go and see..
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Default Re: That Noah's Ark was Round is a Boatload of Crap. - 01-26-2014, 01:28 AM

It says:
You might expect a fragile boat that consists of basketwork covered with calico, weighing only 25lb and looking like an upturned turtle when carried on the back, would sink the moment a full-sized adult stepped into it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/out...e-coracle.html
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Default Re: That Noah's Ark was Round is a Boatload of Crap. - 01-26-2014, 03:49 AM

The fact of the matter is that God sent the flood to wipe out a vast population of people that were engaging in sin, wickedness and corruption. If some of these same people were sitting around wasting their time designing round boats just underscores God righteousness.

Now we have a bunch of "scientists" that just happened to find some of these old waterlogged plans and think its somehow significant is simply incredulous.


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Default Re: That Noah's Ark was Round is a Boatload of Crap. - 01-26-2014, 03:52 AM

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I will have to go and see..
A round Ark is just another atheist attempt to discredit the Holy Bible.

It makes me wonder how else they will humiliate God's Word. Maybe next they will claim Moses came down the mountain with the Ten Commandments written on an Etch a Sketch.


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A round Ark is just another atheist attempt to discredit the Holy Bible.

It makes me wonder how else they will humiliate God's Word. Maybe next they will claim Moses came down the mountain with the Ten Commandments written on an Etch a Sketch.
Well, my understanding is that an etch-a-sketch is mineral based. As are stone tablets. And the 10 Commandments are in the Ark-Of-The-Covenant aren't they? When Jesus reveals their true location despite tilitng they will be unchanged. I feel that they will become world law almost at once. Any ideas recorded by etch-a-sketch are impermanent, they float like dreams in the sky and disapper forever.

The 10 Commandments have not disappeared and are therefore true.
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Default Re: That Noah's Ark was Round is a Boatload of Crap. - 01-26-2014, 10:15 AM

Simple science shows that this couldn't be true.

If the Ark had been round, what would have happened if it had gone into a spin? There would have been nothing to stop it spinning. This video illustrates the problem:



You can see that once the coracle is spinning, she needs to put the oar back into the water to stop it, otherwise it would just continue spinning forever.

Now the Ark was a LOT bigger than this, so just imagine how many people you'd need to hang over the side with oars! And where would they store oars long enough to reach the water? No, this is just anti-scientific heathen nonsense.

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Default Re: That Noah's Ark was Round is a Boatload of Crap. - 01-26-2014, 10:37 AM

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Simple science shows that this couldn't be true.

If the Ark had been round, what would have happened if it had gone into a spin? There would have been nothing to stop it spinning.
An excellent point Mrs Hun. Just imagine the gurgling involved as the water drained away with sufficient suction to erode the Grand Canyon in a matter of weeks! That ark would be spinning like a top and all the animals would be squashed

Do these "scientists" all get electroconvulsive therapy as part of their vocational guidance at school? With the 10 Commandments removed from the classroom they'd have no reason not to do that. Perhaps they's have other reasons though, I dread to consider.
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Exclamation Re: That Noah's Ark was Round is a Boatload of Crap. - 01-27-2014, 12:17 AM

A teency bit irrelevant but nonetheless true-
Noah's Ark never HAPPENED!
It wasn't round nor was it any other configuration.
It is a myth.
It is a story!
A creative one but an inaccurate one.
Noah's Ark=Story
Noah's Ark= Scientifically Accurate and True
Here are 11 reasons why:

1. Getting every animal into a boat. Getting the kangaroos from Australia, the penguins from Antartica and every other native animal into a boat, would be logistically IMPOSSIBLE.

2. The animals fight. Some animals are naturally inclined to fight each other and Noah would have to control all… 4 million + animals on the boat.

3. The water just materializes? Where does enough water to cover the entire world up to 8848m(the height of Mount Everest!)

4.Gliding from the third point- God commands the water to go above the highest mountain. Which we will say is Mount Everest- there could have been taller- we will and the animals will die from a lack of oxygen at such heights.



5.Presuming we get past all these issues- a few hundred thousand of the insects we have aboard are parasites and many deadly to humans and other mammals aboard the Ark.

6. God commands Noah to get every type of food to be eaten. Which means for larger animals like lions and elephants, tonnes upon tonnes of food. 20 million tonnes of various food sources are needed for the animals alone, let alone at least two or three tonnes for the humans.

7. A lot of the before mentioned food is meat and will go off, if not properly refridgerated. I’m relatively sure refrigerators didn’t exist then, even if they did it would need to be pretty huge.

8. Why are there no signs of the Ark anywhere in the world that would be consistent (some evangelical Christians claim that the Mariana Trench is evidence that the Ark was abandoned there and created such a trench), however there are no signs of any ship ever crashing and remaining in the Mariana Trench.

9. After the flood is over, Noah releases every animal back into the world. The carnivores cannot eat any meat otherwise a species will become extinct, and all plant life was killed in the flood along with all the marine life, so the herbivores are screwed too.

10. How do the animals walk back to there native lands! Penguins, kangaroos? - How do they get home?

11. To repopulate every species properly 50 animals would be needed. But 2 would mean lots and lots of incestual breeding, combining with several genetic defects.
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Default Re: That Noah's Ark was Round is a Boatload of Crap. - 01-27-2014, 12:26 AM

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Default Re: That Noah's Ark was Round is a Boatload of Crap. - 01-27-2014, 12:31 AM

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A teency bit irrelevant but nonetheless true-
Noah's Ark never HAPPENED!
It wasn't round nor was it any other configuration.
It is a myth.
It is a story!
You, like all atheists, have not done you home work.

1.)Experiments have been done showing the Ark could have been constructed in a timely manner by Noah and his sons.

2.) Computer models have been run on fitting all living animals and adequate food into the Ark.

3.) Remaining pieces of the Ark have been discovered and are on display.

4.) Noah and his family recorded everything that happened, including the bird that returned with a twig, so the entire is event is documented history.

Read the Bible more carefully and I think you will change your tune in a hurry. And, maybe find Jesus as a bonus.

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Thumbs up Re: That Noah's Ark was Round is a Boatload of Crap. - 01-27-2014, 12:33 AM

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Don't sell yourself short, friend: your post was entirely irrelevant.

YiC,

Zech
Actually if you want something relevant then here-
My previous post proves...
Noah's Ark wasn't round....
Nor was it ANY OTHER CONFIGURATION.
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Default Re: That Noah's Ark was Round is a Boatload of Crap. - 01-27-2014, 12:42 AM

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...My previous post proves...
NOTHING. You offered NO evidence (nor links to any), just assertions based solely on what YOU think.

Just because YOU think something is true, does not make it so.


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I really would have liked the opportunity to rip your "evidence" to shreds (youtube? really? that's worse than claiming something is true because you saw it on Wikipedia), but the moderators have prevented me from even seeing it.

Now, before you go claiming, "HA! that proves I'm right", no, it does not.

If you look around Landover, you'll find that there are many places where evidence for the "other side" is left untouched. This stuff is posted by people who, though they disagree with Landover, are able to discuss matters calmly and maturely, without resorting to inflammatory comments or materials. On the basis of that (of which there IS evidence), I have to assume that the material you posted was either rude, ignorant, irrelevant, or all of those.

"Professor of Evolution at Sydney U"? Try claiming to be something that actually exists next time.


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Default Re: That Noah's Ark was Round is a Boatload of Crap. - 01-27-2014, 02:26 AM

Noah's Ark couldn't have been made of rope and tar. The mastodons and the dragons would have fallen right through the bottom!


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