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  • prove it
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    • Nov 2009
    • 4

    #1

    prove to me that god exists

    you cannot use the bible as a way to prove to me that god exists. i will disregard it.

    i am an atheist. a firm beliver that there is no god. Why? because there is simply no proof. some guys 300 years after the son of your god died decided to write a book about talking snakes and how everything that exists today was created in 7 days. what about science? in a broad spectrum there's proof in that.

    this forum is rediculous. ive been here for 15 minutes browing your forum. your all full of such hate for people who hold opinions or lifestyles different from your own. leave them alone! its less selfish to think of only yourself and your belifs than to force it and let it be known upon others.

    i am not a troll. im not looking to rile people up.

    i simply want (the bible aside) some proof that god exists. and it can be anything. personal experices, miracles whatever.

    give me proof.
  • Lost Sheep McUinnean
    Linguistics and Translation Consultant
    True Christian™
    • Nov 2009
    • 2193

    #2
    Re: prove to me that god exists

    I was lost like yourself too. If it helps, maybe I can say that perhaps proof denies faith and withouot faith we are nothing? Proof is not really helpful when beliefs are at stake I think. Welcome anyway, brother. Hopefully you can browse another 15 minutes or so and open your mind.

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    • Talitha
      Deaconess
      Gracious, genteel, kind, tender, and warm True Christian™ Sister
      True Christian™
      • Oct 2025
      • 15118

      #3
      Re: prove to me that god exists

      Well, I guess hundreds of millions of Christians across the world had better stop believing in God because you just said so.

      Listen Son, go away and read a Bible.
      God is in The Bible.
      The Bible is real, therefore, God is as real as me.

      It's easy once you put your Faith in Jesus Christ

      Sister Talitha

      Markswoman, Circumcisionist, Platinum Tither.


      HE took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha Cumi; which is,
      being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise!...Mark 5:41



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      • Lost Sheep McUinnean
        Linguistics and Translation Consultant
        True Christian™
        • Nov 2009
        • 2193

        #4
        Re: prove to me that god exists

        Originally posted by Talitha View Post
        Well, I guess hundreds of millions of Christians across the world had better stop believing in God because you just said so.

        Listen Son, go away and read a Bible.
        God is in The Bible.
        The Bible is real, therefore, God is as real as me.

        It's easy once you put your Faith in Jesus Christ
        Well said sister. I am far less eloquent than your good self. You said that so much better than I could have been able to have said that.

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        • Lola Handcock
          Forum Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 739

          #5
          Re: prove to me that god exists

          Originally posted by prove it View Post
          you cannot use the bible as a way to prove to me that god exists. i will disregard it.

          i am an atheist. a firm beliver that there is no god. Why? because there is simply no proof. some guys 300 years after the son of your god died decided to write a book about talking snakes and how everything that exists today was created in 7 days. what about science? in a broad spectrum there's proof in that.

          this forum is rediculous. ive been here for 15 minutes browing your forum. your all full of such hate for people who hold opinions or lifestyles different from your own. leave them alone! its less selfish to think of only yourself and your belifs than to force it and let it be known upon others.

          i am not a troll. im not looking to rile people up.

          i simply want (the bible aside) some proof that god exists. and it can be anything. personal experices, miracles whatever.

          give me proof.

          Well aren't you special,you some how feel that you are the first to come to Gods favorite web site and ask that question.I see God in every one I meet.I see his work every where I look.You feel that we the Human race some how magically transformed from the ooze found on the bottom ocean,or we evolved from monkeys.Or better yet we all come from the BIG BANG ! Try this on for size ,Our Father In Heaven ,the Lord God himself created all you see.

          Why Did you come here ? to spew you hateful opinions ? No Jesus is pulling you here to receive the Word of God,shut your PIE hole and open your heart and RECIVE JESUS

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          • Rev. Jim Osborne
            True Christian™ Televangelist
            Director of Fundraising and Tithing
            On the Look Out for Wife #6!
            True Christian™
            • Jun 2009
            • 8622

            #6
            Re: prove to me that god exists

            Originally posted by prove it View Post
            you cannot use the bible as a way to prove to me that god exists. i will disregard it.
            But if the Bible is proof of God's existence, and you disregard it, then you are ignoring the evidence we are trying to give you. So if I tried to convince you of the reality of God, and showed you a Bible, you would throw out my evidence.

            You cannot set limits to truth. You cannot just arbitrarily throw out evidence simply because you don't like it. You need to be more open-minded and rational like us Christians, instead of being a close-minded atheist.

            Watch the #1 Televangelist Gospel Hour in the World! "Turn or Burn: Accept Christ or Go to Hell with Rev. Jim Osborne." Check your local cable listings.

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            • piercegraham
              Confirmed Enemy of God
              • Sep 2009
              • 186

              #7
              Re: prove to me that god exists

              Originally posted by prove it View Post
              you cannot use the bible as a way to prove to me that god exists. i will disregard it.

              i am an atheist. a firm beliver that there is no god. Why? because there is simply no proof. some guys 300 years after the son of your god died decided to write a book about talking snakes and how everything that exists today was created in 7 days. what about science? in a broad spectrum there's proof in that.

              this forum is rediculous. ive been here for 15 minutes browing your forum. your all full of such hate for people who hold opinions or lifestyles different from your own. leave them alone! its less selfish to think of only yourself and your belifs than to force it and let it be known upon others.

              i am not a troll. im not looking to rile people up.

              i simply want (the bible aside) some proof that god exists. and it can be anything. personal experices, miracles whatever.

              give me proof.
              There is no proof God exists. But there is no proof he doesn't exist, either. Which is why this whole Religion/Atheism debate will never end.

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              • Rev. Jim Osborne
                True Christian™ Televangelist
                Director of Fundraising and Tithing
                On the Look Out for Wife #6!
                True Christian™
                • Jun 2009
                • 8622

                #8
                Re: prove to me that god exists

                Originally posted by piercegraham View Post
                There is no proof God exists. But there is no proof he doesn't exist, either. Which is why this whole Religion/Atheism debate will never end.
                There is no proof there is an invisible pink unicorn. And there is no proof that he doesn't exist either. So do you believe in a pink unicorn or not, and why, Pierce?

                Watch the #1 Televangelist Gospel Hour in the World! "Turn or Burn: Accept Christ or Go to Hell with Rev. Jim Osborne." Check your local cable listings.

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                • Lola Handcock
                  Forum Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 739

                  #9
                  Re: prove to me that god exists

                  Originally posted by piercegraham View Post
                  There is no proof God exists. But there is no proof he doesn't exist, either. Which is why this whole Religion/Atheism debate will never end.


                  Percy,there you go again.Crack open the Bible and READ.There is no debate .God is real end of story.

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                  • prove it
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                    • Nov 2009
                    • 4

                    #10
                    Re: prove to me that god exists

                    Originally posted by piercegraham View Post
                    But there is no proof he doesn't exist, either.
                    be rational.

                    religion is the number one reason why humanity has not advanced any further. think back to the dark ages. society and comfort was non existant. your body was regarded as a so called housing of the soul. you lived to die so you could go and be with your heavenly father. disease, death, war, pain, suffering reigned supreme back then. and yet they all blindly turned to god asking for relief. guess what happened?

                    NOTHING!

                    plauge, war, death ect still carried on. if god created this why didint he stop it? humans did not posses the mental capaity to overcome these problems.

                    then people started to question. what if there isnt a god? if there was one why would our heavenly father let this happen. it doesnt have to be like this does it?

                    the renassiance was brought fourth. culture,arts and the one i hold nessecary, SCIENCE was born again. people looked at things a different way. we actually started to know how our body works, the solar system, things we had never thought imanginable were finally being unveiled.

                    when we discovered vacinations and medicine guess what? those dieases from the dark ages such as the bubonic plauge is now actually curable! if you got the plauge right now what would you do? pray to your almighty or go to the hospital and actually be cured.


                    in essence, everything you see, use and enjoy today was a result of loss of faith. your car, your cell phone, your computer. if we all still had faith we would still be living in pain and suffering. think about it. i actually want you to think. not just dismiss it and call me a non beliver.

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                    • Lost Sheep McUinnean
                      Linguistics and Translation Consultant
                      True Christian™
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 2193

                      #11
                      Re: prove to me that god exists

                      what is 'plauge' ?

                      Isn't that French for 'rain'?

                      Why would that be a bad thing?

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                      • prove it
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                        • Nov 2009
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                        #12
                        Re: prove to me that god exists

                        Originally posted by Lost Sheep McUinnean View Post
                        what is 'plauge' ?

                        Isn't that French for 'rain'?

                        Why would that be a bad thing?
                        pleut is french for rain.

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                        • Lola Handcock
                          Forum Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 739

                          #13
                          Re: prove to me that god exists

                          God created everything from you and I to the universe.God is responsible for all of things made by man,after all God gave us minds to think with.It is his infallible wisdom that is responsible for every thing.

                          God has brought you here for a reason,open your heart and let Jesus in

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                          • Lost Sheep McUinnean
                            Linguistics and Translation Consultant
                            True Christian™
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 2193

                            #14
                            Re: prove to me that god exists

                            Originally posted by prove it View Post
                            No. pleut is the 3rd person singular of the present indicative verb form - meaning 'raineth'. Meaningless without a subject.

                            La pluge or plauge ( I think) is the noun.

                            Or was 'plauge' beach? I can't remember. I still don't see its relevance though.

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                            • Rev. Jim Osborne
                              True Christian™ Televangelist
                              Director of Fundraising and Tithing
                              On the Look Out for Wife #6!
                              True Christian™
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 8622

                              #15
                              Re: prove to me that god exists

                              Originally posted by prove it View Post
                              plauge, war, death ect still carried on. if god created this why didint he stop it? humans did not posses the mental capaity to overcome these problems.
                              Haven't you ever read a Bible? God gives plagues, wars, and death as punishments! Ever heard of the story of Noah's Ark? What about Moses's Exodus and the plagues of Egypt? Sodom and Gomorrah?

                              Quit trying to frame God into your terms. You think because God allows all these terrible things to happen to this world that somehow that means He doesn't exist. Ever stop to think maybe He uses suffering as punishment to unsaved trash like yourself?

                              then people started to question. what if there isnt a god? if there was one why would our heavenly father let this happen. it doesnt have to be like this does it?
                              Again, framing God in your own terms. He lets it happen because it is His will. He creates both light and darkness, pain and pleasure.

                              Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

                              Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

                              Exodus 4:11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?


                              the renassiance was brought fourth. culture,arts and the one i hold nessecary, SCIENCE was born again. people looked at things a different way. we actually started to know how our body works, the solar system, things we had never thought imanginable were finally being unveiled.
                              I can see spelling didn't improve in this era.

                              when we discovered vacinations and medicine guess what? those dieases from the dark ages such as the bubonic plauge is now actually curable! if you got the plauge right now what would you do? pray to your almighty or go to the hospital and actually be cured.
                              But now we have diseases of the modern age that cannot be cured at all. AIDS, Cancer, ALS, Multiple Sclerosis, Lupus, Leukemia, etc. Oh yes, some progress!

                              in essence, everything you see, use and enjoy today was a result of loss of faith. your car, your cell phone, your computer. if we all still had faith we would still be living in pain and suffering. think about it. i actually want you to think. not just dismiss it and call me a non beliver.
                              So the whole point of living is to enjoy material objects? You'd rather give up an eternity in Heaven for a Nokia and a trip to Hell? Hey, if that's what you want.

                              And why do you think there is no pain and suffering anymore? Are you blind or a mongoloid or something?

                              Watch the #1 Televangelist Gospel Hour in the World! "Turn or Burn: Accept Christ or Go to Hell with Rev. Jim Osborne." Check your local cable listings.

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