[Cranky Old Man]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

Although you people may find it amusing to berate me

There is nothing amusing about seeing someone going straight to Hell. Your refusal to follow the Holy Bible makes me very sad.

I know that Jesus loves me and if you're going to continue accusing me of being a harlot, this is not better then cyberbullying!

We are telling you the truth as God demands us to do: John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

And Jesus does not love you as you are spiting in His face. There is only one way to Heaven and that is to dedicate your life to Jesus: John 14:6 "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life: no man comes to the Father but by Me."

[sometimes]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

My pastor told me that it's my attacker who is going to hell.
And my pastor is a man of god and I trust his word.
I was 14 years old, honor roll, and hadn't even thought of anyone in a sexual manner.
Please, stop referring to me as that word, it's incredibly hurtful.
Not only did they steal my purity they also destroyed my father's dignity.
Please stop insulting me for a traumatic incident that happened 6 years ago... thanks.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

Although you people may find it amusing to berate me, I know that Jesus loves me and if you're going to continue accusing me of being a harlot, this is not better then cyberbullying!

You came onto our board, posted a ridiculous unbelievable story (I called my brother, a cop, he doesn't believe your story either), and we're the bullies?

Another victim of the liebral education system.

You were raped within a city and if you did "cry out" it couldn't of been very loud since you were only a block away from a school and on a public street, and you were not betrothed.


Deuteronomy 22

23If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her;
24Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.
25But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.
26But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:
27For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her.
28If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

Yep, seems that somebody owes your father fifty shekels of silver and you should be shopping for a wedding dress.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

My pastor told me that it's my attacker who is going to hell. And my pastor is a man of god and I trust his word.

Your Pastor is lying. If the attacker repents and has faith he could have killed you and still would be allowed in Heaven. It is your Pastor who will go to Hell for twisting God's word. Deuteronomy 4:2 "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."

Please stop insulting me for a traumatic incident that happened 6 years ago... thanks.

Please stop insulting Jesus by refusing to follow His word.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

My pastor told me that it's my attacker who is going to hell.
And my pastor is a man of god and I trust his word.
I was 14 years old, honor roll, and hadn't even thought of anyone in a sexual manner.
Please, stop referring to me as that word, it's incredibly hurtful.
Not only did they steal my purity they also destroyed my father's dignity.
Please stop insulting me for a traumatic incident that happened 6 years ago... thanks.

Who's your pastor? What's the name of your church? I'd like to call him up and give him a piece of my mind.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

My pastor told me that it's my attacker who is going to hell.
And my pastor is a man of god and I trust his word.
I was 14 years old, honor roll, and hadn't even thought of anyone in a sexual manner.
Please, stop referring to me as that word, it's incredibly hurtful.
Not only did they steal my purity they also destroyed my father's dignity.
Please stop insulting me for a traumatic incident that happened 6 years ago... thanks.

Aw..... Don't you just love the fuzzy bunny pastors? So much more interested in keeping the pews (and their pockets) filled than they are in telling people what the HOLY WORD OF GOD(C) says.

Did your pastor give you any Bible scriptures? Of course not, he just patted you on the hand and told you what you wanted to hear.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

My pastor told me that it's my attacker who is going to hell.
And my pastor is a man of god and I trust his word.
I was 14 years old, honor roll, and hadn't even thought of anyone in a sexual manner.
Please, stop referring to me as that word, it's incredibly hurtful.
Not only did they steal my purity they also destroyed my father's dignity.
Please stop insulting me for a traumatic incident that happened 6 years ago... thanks.

You are the one who comes on here bragging about how you got raped. If you had been properly ashamed of yourself, instead of rubbing everyone's faces in your whoredom, then you wouldn't be having this problem. If you'd just stop talking about how you got raped then we wouldn't be having this conversation. But you won't shut up about it.

[Thequestioned1]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

wooow I can't believe what I'm reading. 1st I see the title by my s/n as "unsaved trash" which How can anybody here even know whats in my heart besides GOD, then I read the racist comments, jokes, views on women and now claiming that the Bible condones rape? ohh man you all better repent quick. The verse that was cited Deuteronomy 22:28-29 has been twisted. In those days (Old Testament) women had to be virgins in order to be married. She could not earn her own money but had to rely on a man for support, weather it be her father or husband. If a woman was not a virgin she was left alone. Actually if you read the full context of this chapter it is quite clear that the Bible does not condone rape and in fact in some circumstances it sets forth the death penalty for a man who rapes a woman. In those days the rapist was punished by making him marry the victim and made to support her. The Bible clearly sets forth restitution or punishment for the man who rapes a young woman that is not betrothed (engaged). Women didn't have the right to own property or earn their own way in life. That punishment consists of two parts, first he must pay the woman’s father fifty shekels of silver and secondly he must marry and support the woman for the rest of her life. Fifty shekels of silver was a very substantial fine as at that time a shekel was a measurement of weight and not an actual coin. So clearly the Bible does not condone rape and instead outlines different degrees of punishment and fines to be brought against the man guilty of raping a woman. In fact the punishment for rape in the Old Testament was usually much more severe than rape is punished in today’s society. So go ahead and call me fluffy or whatever words you may feel because its amusing to me to see what insults and false teachings you will throw out there. but rememberthis while you say i'm the unsaved trash 2 Corinthians 11:13-14 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.

[Janine Walker]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

wooow I can't believe what I'm reading. 1st I see the title by my s/n as "unsaved trash" which How can anybody here even know whats in my heart besides GOD, then I read the racist comments, jokes, views on women and now claiming that the Bible condones rape? ohh man you all better repent quick. The verse that was cited Deuteronomy 22:28-29 has been twisted. In those days (Old Testament) women had to be virgins in order to be married.

I didn't know the Bible evolved each day, oh wait it doesn't. Because EVOLUTION DOESN'T EXIST.

She could not earn her own money but had to rely on a man for support, weather it be her father or husband. If a woman was not a virgin she was left alone. Actually if you read the full context of this chapter it is quite clear that the Bible does not condone rape and in fact in some circumstances it sets forth the death penalty for a man who rapes a woman.

That only applies to a married woman, not an unwed virgin. READ HERE.

Deuteronomy 22:25-29
But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man * force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die: 26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter: 27 For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her. 28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.


Edit: I think it clearly show this is more a crime against the father than it is against the virgin. The guy is actually doing the damsel a favor by becoming her husband, the only downside is the father cannot sell his daughter and thus there is a fine. It is to correct any wrongs of stealing. Sorry, was hard to read your bold text the first time.

2 Corinthians 11:13-14 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.

What exactly are you trying to say here, unsaved trash?

[handmaiden]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

wooow I can't believe what I'm reading. 1st I see the title by my s/n as "unsaved trash" which How can anybody here even know whats in my heart besides GOD, then I read the racist comments, jokes, views on women and now claiming that the Bible condones rape? ohh man you all better repent quick. The verse that was cited Deuteronomy 22:28-29 has been twisted. In those days (Old Testament) women had to be virgins in order to be married.

"In those days" sounds a tad dismissive to me. In those days, God was laying out His Holy Word and dealing with His people very directly. The way things were in those days -- "She could not earn her own money but had to rely on a man for support, weather it be her father or husband. If a woman was not a virgin she was left alone." was the way God WANTED it. God was telling it like it is, and people were living as He told them to do.

And yet, from the way you write about it, one might assume that you approve, understand or generally accept that the world is NOT arranged as God so clearly instructed in His Word. But you talk about God and believing that He loves you and so forth-- where did you pick up those notions if not from the same Bible that tells us, implicitly and explicitly, that a woman IS supposed to be a virgin and dependant on her father etc.? And then goes on to detail exactly how matters are to be dealt with in a virgin daughter is raped. How do you justify waving your Bible in our faces insisting that God loves you (or that He is real for that matter) when you are suggesting that the social norms in place back then were not as God Himself wanted them to be practiced by His followers who were being given the Bible, by God, for their instruction?

"Oh boy, you all better repent quick" you say. Why? Are you going to sic "your" God on us? And for what sin? For reading the Bible and taking it at its word? We aren't the ones tacitly claiming that "these days" as opposed to "those days" are better when nearly every modern social convention that you can point your finger at-- women's rights to vote, travel unaccustomed, earn and keep private income, give away their virginity and marry as they please or not marry and have sex anyway-- are not part of a lifestyle described, supported or approved of in the Bible.

Actually if you read the full context of this chapter it is quite clear that the Bible does not condone rape

No, the Bible makes it quite clear that rape is a serious property crime against a father or husband and that it creates an economic and social problem that must be managed.

God doesn't make any blatant statements about how rape hurts women's tender feelings and that men are automatically out of His favor for doing it. In fact, as you go on to point out

In those days the rapist was punished by making him marry the victim and made to support her.

Exactly! God -- remember Him? Holy, Perfect, Unchanging?-- Decreed that the man's responsibility was to support her, and have sex with her for the rest of their lives as part of his responsibility as her husband. God doesn't suggest prison, castration, or flogging for him or counselling for her. They are to get married and settle the matter of unapproved sexual relations forthwith!

And I love how you say "[i]n those days" again, like the people who believed in God back then were,--I don't know ,wrong?-- in how they handled things--when they were following the Bible. A point that you imply once AGAIN with :

The Bible clearly sets forth restitution or punishment for the man who rapes a young woman that is not betrothed (engaged). Women didn't have the right to own property or earn their own way in life. That punishment consists of two parts, first he must pay the woman’s father fifty shekels of silver and secondly he must marry and support the woman for the rest of her life. Fifty shekels of silver was a very substantial fine as at that time a shekel was a measurement of weight and not an actual coin. So clearly the Bible does not condone rape and instead outlines different degrees of punishment and fines to be brought against the man guilty of raping a woman. In fact the punishment for rape in the Old Testament was usually much more severe than rape is punished in today’s society.

Again, I get a kick from how, once more, you pretty much talk out of both sides of your mouth by implying that the old (Biblical) ways were flawed because a woman couldn't own property, etc, but shore up your opinion by stating that the Bible doesn't "condone" rape.

The question you should ask yourself is: In what exact way does the Bible "condemn" rape? It's not an automatic ticket to hell, or to being cast out of the community. It's never referred to as an abomination, such as homosexual activity or eating certain unclean foods. And despite what you wrote about a possible death sentence, that's only levied in very specific circumstances, with the woman's emotional response being way down on the list of contributing factors.

So go ahead and call me fluffy or whatever words you may feel because its amusing to me to see what insults and false teachings you will throw out there.

Not only are you a "nibble on the tasty Bible parts and discard the bitter truths of His Holy Unchanging Word" fluffy bunny Christian, but you have displayed fluffy logic as well. I could see how this could isolate you from hard-core Bible Believers and earn you pity from atheists alike.

And no True Christian would think about "twisting" Deuteronomy 22 or any other book of the Bible, for that matter. We have too much respect for its power. We stand behind it and hold it up so that it may speak for itself. You, on the other hand, seem determined to speak for your own self and the tailored-to-fit form of Christianity that allows you to have the comfort to believe God loves you (more than us, probably) even as you live a modern life that is far removed from God's Own Ordinances, while you remove page after page of the text that tells you exactly how to live for God rather than yourself.

And you call us "false prophets".

Disapprovingly Yours,

Handmaiden

[iVotedPalinOnce]

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YOU [deleted] ARE SCARY!

[iVotedPalinOnce]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

Aw..... Don't you just love the fuzzy bunny pastors? So much more interested in keeping the pews (and their pockets) filled than they are in telling people what the HOLY WORD OF GOD© says.

Did your pastor give you any Bible scriptures? Of course not, he just patted you on the hand and told you what you wanted to hear.

Wooaahh. "BelieverInGod", you're one messed up, confused human being. I feel sorry for people unfortunate enough to cross your path.

[Bible Student]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

Originally Posted by BelieverInGod
Aw..... Don't you just love the fuzzy bunny pastors? So much more interested in keeping the pews (and their pockets) filled than they are in telling people what the HOLY WORD OF GOD© says.

Did your pastor give you any Bible scriptures? Of course not, he just patted you on the hand and told you what you wanted to hear.

Wooaahh. "BelieverInGod", you're one messed up, confused human being. I feel sorry for people unfortunate enough to cross your path.

What an impertinent heathen twerp you are!!!! How dare you speak in that manner to Sister BelieverInGod. You might notice she is a True Christian(tm) and as such is superior to a mealy mouthed piece of Unsaved Trash like you.

Now kindly go down to your nearest hardware store, purchase a bar of Fels-Naptha soap; wash your mouth out with it; rinse and repeat four times.

[OurSavior]

Re: ATTENTION SLUTS! Why women get raped

Rape victims are nothing but harlots.

Fornicating with anything that moves, and then they go and cry about it. It wouldn't have happened if they didn't abandon His teachings. There is no hope for these women.

Serves them right.

Please forgive my anger, but this is how I feel.

[The Saint]

Re: Why Women Get Raped...

Folks, I learned something about our sister Sarah Palin today. Back when sister Palin was mayor of that quaint little town, she decided to charge the rape victims for the rape kit that was used by the police on them. I know this is the sort of thing that gets liberals all riled up, but have you ever pondered why a woman might get raped anyway? Perhaps sister Palin's Christian wisdom helped her to realize that some hussies ask for it and shouldn't automatically be given "victim" status? YOUR THOUGHTS???

In a way, I agree. Girls dressing like complete sluts is absolutely unacceptable, especially with parents teaching their daughters at ages as young as 1 to be in "beauty pagents", getting them all dolled up with frilly exposing dresses and swimwear... Repulsive.

BUT what about the women who dress modestly and get raped anyway? What did they do? Surely if a woman covers everything and acts modestly, then what will they do?

Thank goodness Palin didn't get elected, I never wish to see innocent modest women have to pay for justice. I don't want to see anyone have to pay for justice...