[Degenerate Godmocker]

Re: Evolution

Nonsense. I have no urge to do any of those things. I'm not an atheist.

Interesting because I've gone through a few debates in real life where the other person(usually a christian/muslim) literally told me that "I don't see how you can not believe in God, if I didn't believe in God there would be no point in living and I'd just murder people all I fucking wanted to". Yet I've never met an atheist or agnostic or a simple deist say that.

I see. We should be in an asylum because we believe God created the universe, but you are completely sane because you believe a whole bunch of nothing decided to become something for no reason at all about 13 billion years ago?

I never brought up the point of the Big Bang or Creation. It's just that you believe in a book that advocates such awful immoral things and yet you try and say that you have morality. The Bible is an awful place to get morals from. You should be locked up because without God you would be murdering and raping others.

*backs away from the crazy person*[/QUOTE]

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Evolution

I didn't click on the link because, well I'm sick of seeing the porn that the unsaved trash seem to think we need to see. Anyway, I find it interesting that this conversation came up, as we were driving down the highway and during my silent driving prayers, a thought came to me.

The fact that humans are at the top PROVES that evilution is a lie. Look at us, we don't have sharp teeth or claws, we're built rather awkward and fall down a lot, our children are hopelessly dependent for at least the first 12 years of their lives. We're slow and we're weak and unlike other "prey" creatures, we don't breed 15 times a year with 10-100 children at a time.

Nope, if evolution was real, we would have died out on the plains of Africa after all of the lions and cheetahs discovered how much easier it was to kill one of us rather than an animal with hooves that can break a skull.

[Degenerate Godmocker]

Re: Evolution

I didn't click on the link because, well I'm sick of seeing the porn that the unsaved trash seem to think we need to see. Anyway, I find it interesting that this conversation came up, as we were driving down the highway and during my silent driving prayers, a thought came to me.

The fact that humans are at the top PROVES that evilution is a lie. Look at us, we don't have sharp teeth or claws, we're built rather awkward and fall down a lot, our children are hopelessly dependent for at least the first 12 years of their lives. We're slow and we're weak and unlike other "prey" creatures, we don't breed 15 times a year with 10-100 children at a time.

Nope, if evolution was real, we would have died out on the plains of Africa after all of the lions and cheetahs discovered how much easier it was to kill one of us rather than an animal with hooves that can break a skull.

Actually if you studied evolution you would find that humans are remarkably adapted. We lost our fur which allows us to regulate our body heat an incredible amount(allowing us to travel vast distances), our feet have been designed through evolution to be superb for sprinting and even climbing. Yes you're right, we don't have claws, nor very large canines but we do have something no other animal has which is a large cognitive brain(at our level).

We can make weapons that are much more useful than claws(like spears for hunting), we were always a social animal we stuck together in groups kind of like a wolf-pack making it less likely that we would all die. we can track animals and make shelters out of very simple things. Simply putting a few branches in front of a cave mouth that's large enough will deter any large predators like a cheetah to attack inside because its too much work getting through the sticks and branches to even bother.

Yes our children are hopelessly dependent for a long time, but this is the drawback of evolving large brains. They need time to grow and fully develop. Unlike the human brain, the brain of a chimp grows relatively fast, but this is because it doesn't grow as big as ours so development can move quicker. Although we have found that if you were to take a chimp brain fatally and let it go 2 or 3 more rounds of division, it wouldn't be long till that chimp would be making symphonies and his own ideology(or following ours).

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Evolution

I never brought up the point of the Big Bang or Creation. It's just that you believe in a book that advocates such awful immoral things and yet you try and say that you have morality. The Bible is an awful place to get morals from. You should be locked up because without God you would be murdering and raping others.

Look pal, if God orders it, it ain't murder.

All morality eminates from the Holy Bible. God taught us to hate queers, witches and all non-Christians. God is the one who temporarily killed His only begotten son for my sins, not Chuck Darwin.

[Degenerate Godmocker]

Re: Evolution

Look pal, if God orders it, it ain't murder.

All morality eminates from the Holy Bible. God taught us to hate queers, witches and all non-Christians. God is the one who temporarily killed His only begotten son for my sins, not Chuck Darwin.

[Brother Enoch]

Re: Evolution

Although we have found that if you were to take a chimp brain fatally and let it go 2 or 3 more rounds of division, it wouldn't be long till that chimp would be making symphonies and his own ideology(or following ours).

What? Are you suddenly suffering from a psychotic break of some sort? What the hell does that sentence even mean?

And you think WE'RE insane?

Seriously, whatever meds you're off, go back on them. Quickly.

[Degenerate Godmocker]

Re: Evolution

What? Are you suddenly suffering from a psychotic break of some sort? What the hell does that sentence even mean?

And you think WE'RE insane?

Seriously, whatever meds you're off, go back on them. Quickly.

Brains go through cell division in the womb, the difference between chimp and human brains is that our brains divide 2 maybe 3 more times than that of the chimp brain. So if you were to extend chimp brain division to divide 2 or 3 extra times it would come out of the womb basically as a human baby with fur. And grow up with the ability to think like a human, write symphonies like a human, do math like a human, and so on.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Evolution

Actually if you studied evolution you would find that humans are remarkably adapted. We lost our fur which allows us to regulate our body heat an incredible amount(allowing us to travel vast distances), our feet have been designed through evolution to be superb for sprinting and even climbing. Yes you're right, we don't have claws, nor very large canines but we do have something no other animal has which is a large cognitive brain(at our level).

Actually fur works quite well as insulation, that's why we kill animals and use their fur. So no, I don't buy the "losing our fur was a good thing". As for sprinting, What's the record around 3.5 minute mile? I can't think of any predator that is that slow. Climbing? Compared to other animals (even the apes) we suck at it. Just ask any emergency doctor. Oh, and where did this magical brain come from? As for adaptability, why aren't rats running the show? I can't think of any animal that is more adaptable than a rat.

We can make weapons that are much more useful than claws(like spears for hunting), we were always a social animal we stuck together in groups kind of like a wolf-pack making it less likely that we would all die. we can track animals and make shelters out of very simple things. Simply putting a few branches in front of a cave mouth that's large enough will deter any large predators like a cheetah to attack inside because its too much work getting through the sticks and branches to even bother.

I'm sorry, but you're not selling it. We would have been eaten into extinction long before we figured out how to make a spear. A few branches? I think you've watched too many movies about cave men. Wolves are faster, stronger and have sharper teeth, acting like them is not going to protect a bunch of monkey men with pointy sticks.

Yes our children are hopelessly dependent for a long time, but this is the drawback of evolving large brains. They need time to grow and fully develop. Unlike the human brain, the brain of a chimp grows relatively fast, but this is because it doesn't grow as big as ours so development can move quicker. Although we have found that if you were to take a chimp brain fatally and let it go 2 or 3 more rounds of division, it wouldn't be long till that chimp would be making symphonies and his own ideology(or following ours).

Really? I thought you scientists say that chimps are as smart as we are. That it's just that they lack the vocalization skills. Isn't that why you're all running around in the bush trying to teach them sign language?

Anyway, as far as chimps go. People think they're the cute little animals they see in the movies. Even though they're the same size as us (approximately) they're strong enough to rip us from limb to limb. But yeah, humans climbed to the top in an ape eat ape world.


The ludicrousness of such a claim proves that God gave us our "giant brains" created some animals to be our assistants, and others to be our food, nothing else makes sense.

[Bible Student]

Re: Evolution

Originally Posted by BelieverInGod
I didn't click on the link because, well I'm sick of seeing the porn that the unsaved trash seem to think we need to see. Anyway, I find it interesting that this conversation came up, as we were driving down the highway and during my silent driving prayers, a thought came to me.

The fact that humans are at the top PROVES that evilution is a lie. Look at us, we don't have sharp teeth or claws, we're built rather awkward and fall down a lot, our children are hopelessly dependent for at least the first 12 years of their lives. We're slow and we're weak and unlike other "prey" creatures, we don't breed 15 times a year with 10-100 children at a time.

Nope, if evolution was real, we would have died out on the plains of Africa after all of the lions and cheetahs discovered how much easier it was to kill one of us rather than an animal with hooves that can break a skull.

Actually if you studied evolution you would find that humans are remarkably adapted. We lost our fur

Tell me about it. My sweetie said something about losing her fur. Do you know how much a mink stole costs these days. Losing one's fur is never a good idea.

which allows us to regulate our body heat an incredible amount(allowing us to travel vast distances), our feet have been designed through evolution to be superb for sprinting and even climbing. Yes you're right, we don't have claws, nor very large canines but we do have something no other animal has which is a large cognitive brain(at our level).

Homo sapiens neanderthalensis also known as the Nephilim, which are mentioned in the Bible had a brain size ranging from about 1200 - 1750 ml which is about 100 ml larger than those of homo sapiens sapiens (that's us). And we know the Great Flood wiped out homo sapiens neanderthalensis. Apparently brain size isn't all those heathen, devil worshiping atheistic scientists make it out to be.

Genesis 6:4 -- There were Giants in the earth in those daies: and also after that, when the sonnes of God came in vnto the daughters of men, & they bare children to them; the same became mightie men, which were of old, men of renowme.

We can make weapons that are much more useful than claws(like spears for hunting), we were always a social animal we stuck together in groups kind of like a wolf-pack making it less likely that we would all die. we can track animals and make shelters out of very simple things. Simply putting a few branches in front of a cave mouth that's large enough will deter any large predators like a cheetah to attack inside because its too much work getting through the sticks and branches to even bother.

Yes our children are hopelessly dependent for a long time, but this is the drawback of evolving large brains. They need time to grow and fully develop. Unlike the human brain, the brain of a chimp grows relatively fast, but this is because it doesn't grow as big as ours so development can move quicker. Although we have found that if you were to take a chimp brain fatally and let it go 2 or 3 more rounds of division, it wouldn't be long till that chimp would be making symphonies and his own ideology(or following ours).

There you go comparing size again. Next you will be bragging about another part that is large.

[s. warnin]

Re: Evolution

eh?

You're obviously from Canada, which, by default, speaks volumes about your ignorance. Most likely, you're a drunkard.

[Degenerate Godmocker]

Re: Evolution

Actually fur works quite well as insulation, that's why we kill animals and use their fur. So no, I don't buy the "losing our fur was a good thing". As for sprinting, What's the record around 3.5 minute mile? I can't think of any predator that is that slow. Climbing? Compared to other animals (even the apes) we suck at it. Just ask any emergency doctor. Oh, and where did this magical brain come from? As for adaptability, why aren't rats running the show? I can't think of any animal that is more adaptable than a rat.

It works well as insulation yes, that is why predators tend to do their hunting at night. They spend most of the day trying to keep cool because of that fur they have. Humans don't have fur, which allows us to travel and hunt during the day when its less likely to be attacked by a lion or something. We can run and run for hours and our body temperature will remain at a normal state because our skin allows us to release heat rapidly all over our body. This is something animals with fur can't do.

I never said we could sprint quickly, we can sprint for very long periods of time. And I don't see many tigers climbing up a tree to chase a human, do you?

I'm sorry, but you're not selling it. We would have been eaten into extinction long before we figured out how to make a spear. A few branches? I think you've watched too many movies about cave men. Wolves are faster, stronger and have sharper teeth, acting like them is not going to protect a bunch of monkey men with pointy sticks.

We figured out how to make tools pretty quickly from what we know.

"A new geological study, being reported Thursday in the journal Nature, showed that tools from a site near Lake Turkana in Kenya were made about 1.76 million years ago, the earliest of their ilk found so far. Previous dates were estimates ranging from 1.4 million to 1.6 million years ago."

Really? I thought you scientists say that chimps are as smart as we are. That it's just that they lack the vocalization skills. Isn't that why you're all running around in the bush trying to teach them sign language?

I was talking about if you allowed the brain to develop more fatally, chimps would be born with the ability to vocalize their intelligence, and even create music and artwork if they wanted to. Right now they are very intelligent compared to a lot of animals, they have signs of social 'order' if you will and compassion toward one another. Now many animals can feel compassion for one another of their own species, its just that we're the only ones that can feel compassion for a completely different specie like a dog or cat.

Anyway, as far as chimps go. People think they're the cute little animals they see in the movies. Even though they're the same size as us (approximately) they're strong enough to rip us from limb to limb. But yeah, humans climbed to the top in an ape eat ape world.

Yeah they are strong enough to rip you limb from limb theres no doubt about that. But chimps are good at doing what they do now, so there's no point for them to develop language and start exploring earth because if you're a chimp you're fine with living in the trees.

The ludicrousness of such a claim proves that God gave us our "giant brains" created some animals to be our assistants, and others to be our food, nothing else makes sense.

Well its fine if there is a God that gave us our brains, but then you can't deny that evolution happened. Theres a mountain of evidence for it and the only reason some people don't accept it is because they want God to have made us some certain way. Why would you think that God whipping us together in a few days is so much better than him letting it play out for billions of years and taking time with his creation? Anything you make will always come out better if you take your time on it, not just rush it.

[Bible Student]

Re: Evolution

. Now many animals can feel compassion for one another of their own species, its just that we're the only ones that can feel compassion for a completely different specie like a dog or cat.

So far your posts are nothing but a bunch of disinformation. It would take books to explain most of your lies. But this one is outed in a couple of paragraphs. Remember Koko, the gorilla and her kitten?

http://ask.yahoo.com/20000905.html

Unfortunately, their relationship ended abrubtly in December of 1984, when All Ball escaped from the gorilla cage and was killed by a car. Koko was extrememly distraught over the death of All Ball and spoke of it soon after:

When asked, "Do you want to talk about your kitty?"
Koko signed, "Cry."
"What happened to your kitty?"
Koko answered, "Sleep cat."
When she saw a picture of a cat who looked very much like All Ball, Koko pointed to the picture and signed, "Cry, sad, frown."

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Evolution

Well its fine if there is a God that gave us our brains, but then you can't deny that evolution happened. Theres a mountain of evidence for it and the only reason some people don't accept it is because they want God to have made us some certain way. Why would you think that God whipping us together in a few days is so much better than him letting it play out for billions of years and taking time with his creation? Anything you make will always come out better if you take your time on it, not just rush it.

Here is the difference between science and religion

Scientific proof for evolution - some old bones, buried trash and biology. None of it is clear and all need to be interpreted.

Christian proof for creation - The Bible were God says clearly He created us from dust.

Now you have an eye witness account from a fully trained observer (God, I am sure we both can agree, trained Himself) verse circumstantial evidence. Can you see why we TRUE Christians prefer the first hand account? Logically, the only reason why anyone would believe in evolution is because they want to have ass sex.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Evolution

Evolutionists are literally OBSESSED with looking at ancient fossils of animals. They subject these fossils to intense study, including studying the animals RECTAL ANATOMY. What justification is there for taking such an interest in the anuses of dead animals? To prove there is no God?? The true motivations of atheists is evident.

[babdah]

Re: Evolution

Homo sapiens neanderthalensis also known as the Nephilim, which are mentioned in the Bible had a brain size ranging from about 1200 - 1750 ml which is about 100 ml larger than those of homo sapiens sapiens (that's us). And we know the Great Flood wiped out homo sapiens neanderthalensis. Apparently brain size isn't all those heathen, devil worshiping atheistic scientists make it out to be.

Your wrong, your think of the Paleolithic man