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  • Should I become a Muslim?

    Hey my Landover friends!

    So recently I've decided to branch out from the restraints of western culture and have been studying up on Islam.

    Now don't get me wrong, there's a lot about Islam that frightens me. But I believe all the terrorists and stonings and whatnot are the work of men who are misinterpreting the true message.

    See, I have always had a problem with the Bible. I don't understand the Trinity. How can one God be three persons? It doesn't add up? And I find it hard to believe that Jesus was really the Son of God. I've read the Gospels, and Jesus says a lot of great things, but also some weird things that I think prove he was really just a great moral teacher and not the God I know.

    Also, I don't understand why God had to kill Jesus in order to forgive our sins? The God I know is all-loving and all-forgiving. He doesn't need a human sacrifice to appease Him, does He?

    Well, luckily Islam conveniently gets rid of all this! Not to mention, the prophets of the Old Testament all come off a LOT nicer in the Quran than in the Bible!

    -Noah didn't get drunk and curse one of his sons to slavery.
    -Abraham was actually Hagar's husband, he didn't own her as a sex slave.
    -Lot didn't get drunk and impregnate his daughters.
    -Jacob didn't trick his brother out of his inheritence.
    -Job never doubted God.
    -David didn't commit adultery and murder.
    -Solomon could talk to animals.

    Also, look at some of the beautiful passages in the Quran!

    2:42 Confound not truth with falsehood, nor knowingly conceal the truth.

    2:83 And (remember) when We made a covenant with the Children of Israel, (saying): Worship none save Allah (only), and be good to parents and to kindred and to orphans and the needy, and speak kindly to mankind; and establish worship and pay the poor-due. Then, after that, ye slid back, save a few of you, being averse.

    2:220 Upon the world and the Hereafter. And they question thee concerning orphans. Say: To improve their lot is best. And if ye mingle your affairs with theirs, then (they are) your brothers. Allah knoweth him who spoileth from him who improveth. Had Allah willed He could have overburdened you. Allah is Mighty, Wise.

    4:2 Give unto orphans their wealth. Exchange not the good for the bad (in your management thereof) nor absorb their wealth into your own wealth. Lo! that would be a great sin.

    9:71 And the believers, men and women, are protecting friends one of another; they enjoin the right and forbid the wrong, and they establish worship and they pay the poor-due, and they obey Allah and His messenger. As for these, Allah will have mercy on them. Lo! Allah is Mighty, Wise.

    17:53 Tell My bondmen to speak that which is kindlier. Lo! the devil soweth discord among them. Lo! the devil is for man an open foe.

    46:15 And We have commended unto man kindness toward parents. His mother beareth him with reluctance, and bringeth him forth with reluctance, and the bearing of him and the weaning of him is thirty months, till, when he attaineth full strength and reacheth forty years, he saith: My Lord! Arouse me that I may give thanks for the favour wherewith Thou hast favoured me and my parents, and that I may do right acceptable unto Thee. And be gracious unto me in the matter of my seed. Lo! I have turned unto Thee repentant, and lo! I am of those who surrender (unto Thee).

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    Re: Should I become a Muslim?

    Deut 6:14-15 "Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you; (For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you) lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth."

    John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

    Rev 19:20 "And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone."
    Matt 5:17-20 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven:..."

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    • #3
      Re: Should I become a Muslim?

      No.

      You should not become a mudslide.

      Next?
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      1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

      Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

      Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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      • #4
        Re: Should I become a Muslim?

        I'm confused. You want to join a religion because a so-called holy book sounds appealing?
        Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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        • #5
          Re: Should I become a Muslim?

          well, ifn ya want to burn in hell fer all eternity, then sure, be a Moose Limb.

          ya aughta get right with Christ!

          yic
          Genesis 1:24
          And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind: and it was so."

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          • #6
            Re: Should I become a Muslim?

            Ordinarily I affirm all people's religious choices, since all rivers lead to the ocean and since theological truths are something that we all have to work out for ourselves. Nonetheless, I draw the line at Islam, with its degrading treatment of women, since some things are just wrong.
            The Bible, when correctly interpreted, tells us to love everyone.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Darren Ingram-Myers View Post
              Ordinarily I affirm all people's religious choices, since all rivers lead to the ocean and since theological truths are something that we all have to work out for ourselves. Nonetheless, I draw the line at Islam, with its degrading treatment of women, since some things are just wrong.
              Some things are just wrong...

              And how would you know that? You casually assert your acceptance of the abomination that is other faiths and ask us to find any value in your point of view.

              All rivers do not lead to the ocean - some lead to lakes and stagnant marshes - and even if they did that doesn't mean a thing in the context of Biblical Truth(R) which is unassailable.

              So you'd go to Hell just so you can have a supply of Godless uppity harlots to fornicate with? How dreadful. Far better to have a True Christian(TM) wife who knows how to submit properly to her husband.
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              Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

              John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

              Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
              The truth about volcanos
              Sex and debauchery in public schools
              Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
              God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
              Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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              • #8
                Re: Should I become a Muslim?

                Believe it or not, God may prefer that you convert to Is-lame:

                Rev. 3:15-16: I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

                Since you won't be hot (True Christian™), you're better off as a mooselimb (cold) than as a liberal Christian space cadet (lukewarm), so that you won't end up in Christ's barf bag upon judgment.
                This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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                • #9
                  Re: Should I become a Muslim?

                  So you want to become a terrorist? I think i'm going to report this to Homeland Security!

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                  • #10
                    Re: Should I become a Muslim?

                    S-M:

                    If you convert to Islam, will you load up your undershorts with explosives and succeed only in, shall we say, giving yourself an "extreme circumcision"?

                    If so, please go ahead!
                    Bible boring? Nonsense!
                    Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
                    You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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                    • #11
                      Re: Should I become a Muslim?

                      Originally posted by Serenity-Millennium View Post

                      See, I have always had a problem with the Bible. I don't understand the Trinity. How can one God be three persons? It doesn't add up? And I find it hard to believe that Jesus was really the Son of God. I've read the Gospels, and Jesus says a lot of great things, but also some weird things that I think prove he was really just a great moral teacher and not the God I know.

                      Also, I don't understand why God had to kill Jesus in order to forgive our sins? The God I know is all-loving and all-forgiving. He doesn't need a human sacrifice to appease Him, does He?
                      Yes, the whole idea of the Trinity is ludicrous. Indeed how can 3 be 1? You say: In the name of the Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost. But they are not 3 persons but 1? The Christian Catechism says that The Father is God, The Son is God and The Holy Ghost is God. But they are not three Gods but one God. The Father is a person, The Son is a person and the Holy Ghost is a person. But they are not three persons but one person. What language is that? If 3 guys are identical triplets and one of them commits murder.. Can we hang one of the 2 others brothers? No they are different persons with different personalities. So the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost leave three distinct mental pictures ind your mind. They can never be one.


                      Originally posted by Serenity-Millennium View Post
                      Also, I don't understand why God had to kill Jesus in order to forgive our sins? The God I know is all-loving and all-forgiving. He doesn't need a human sacrifice to appease Him, does He?
                      In Islam everyone pays for his or her own sins. Not the blood of Christ or animal offerings or anything else..


                      Originally posted by Serenity-Millennium View Post
                      Now don't get me wrong, there's a lot about Islam that frightens me. But I believe all the terrorists and stonings and whatnot are the work of men who are misinterpreting the true message.
                      Please point me to the verse in the Quran that deals with stoning ?
                      Deuteronomy 18:18 - I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren like unto thee and will put my words in his mouth and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him

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                      • #12
                        Re: Should I become a Muslim?

                        Originally posted by Ahmad_Deedat View Post
                        Please point me to the verse in the Quran that deals with stoning ?
                        Why would anyone care one way or another what's in your fake moon god book?
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                        Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

                        John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

                        Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
                        The truth about volcanos
                        Sex and debauchery in public schools
                        Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
                        God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
                        Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Should I become a Muslim?

                          Originally posted by Ahmad_Deedat View Post
                          In Islam everyone pays for his or her own sins. Not the blood of Christ or animal offerings or anything else..
                          Could you please explain 'honor killings', then?
                          Bible boring? Nonsense!
                          Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
                          You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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                          • #14
                            Re: Should I become a Muslim?

                            Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
                            Why would anyone care one way or another what's in your fake moon god book?
                            And the crow calls the raven black..

                            Luke 1:1-4
                            1 Inasmuch as many have taken in hand to set in order a narrative of those things which have been fulfilled among us, 2 just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word delivered them to us, 3 it seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus, 4 that you may know the certainty of those things in which you were instructed.

                            Also the King James Bible has been revised many times. So calling it the word of God is quite erroneous. Imagine your Great great great great grandfather wrote a will. And your great great great grandfather made some changes in it. And again your great great grandfather made major changes. And your great great grandfather made major changes and your great grandfather made major changes and your grandfather made major changes and your father made major changes and you made major changes and yet you still insist that it is the original will of your great great great great grandfather.. Doesn´t add up.
                            Deuteronomy 18:18 - I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren like unto thee and will put my words in his mouth and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him

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                              Re: Should I become a Muslim?

                              Originally posted by Ahmad_Deedat View Post
                              And the crow calls the raven black..

                              Luke 1:1-4
                              1 Inasmuch as many have taken in hand to set in order a narrative of those things which have been fulfilled among us, 2 just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word delivered them to us, 3 it seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus, 4 that you may know the certainty of those things in which you were instructed.

                              Also the King James Bible has been revised many times. So calling it the word of God is quite erroneous. Imagine your Great great great great grandfather wrote a will. And your great great great grandfather made some changes in it. And again your great great grandfather made major changes. And your great great grandfather made major changes and your great grandfather made major changes and your grandfather made major changes and your father made major changes and you made major changes and yet you still insist that it is the original will of your great great great great grandfather.. Doesn´t add up.
                              Can anyone make head nor tail of what this sand nigra is yammering on about. Obviously he's being a blasphemous heathen but beyond that it really is quite odd. Why would my great grandfather change the Bible?
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                              Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

                              John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

                              Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
                              The truth about volcanos
                              Sex and debauchery in public schools
                              Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
                              God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
                              Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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