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  • James Dewitt
    #63 on Forbes'...but #1 in Jesus's Heart
    • Jan 2010
    • 6267

    #1

    The Garden of Eden is in Missouri??

    Brothers and Sisters I have some wonderful news. It seems that the Mormons have found The Garden of Eden, and it is in Missouri. Now I realize that it is hard to believe so let me share with you what I have discovered.

    In 1838, Joseph Smith led a group of followers seventy miles north of present-day Kansas City, Missouri. There he founded a new settlement that he called Adam-ondi-Ahman. The place is significant in Mormon history for it is here that Smith claimed the first man, Adam, lived.
    According to Smith, the Garden of Eden was located nearby in Jackson county, Missouri. Following his expulsion from the garden, Adam traveled northward to present-day Daviess county.

    Tenth Mormon President Joseph Fielding Smith wrote,
    "In accord with the revelations given to the Prophet Joseph Smith, we teach that the Garden of Eden was on the American continent located where the city of Zion, or the New Jerusalem will be built. When Adam and Eve were driven out of the Garden, they eventually dwelt at a place called Adam-ondi-Ahman, situated in what is now Daviess County, Missouri" (Doctrines of Salvation 3:74).
    Joseph Smith taught that Adam, just prior to his death, called Seth, Enos, Cainan, Mahalaleel, Jared, Enoch and Methuselah, as well as the "residue of his posterity who were righteous,' to Adam-ondi-Ahman. It was there he "bestowed upon them his last blessing" (Doctrine and Covenants 107:53).

    Mormon Apostle John Widtsoe wrote,
    "Since Adam called together seven generations of his descendants at Adam-ondi-Ahman, it can well be believed that there was his old homestead. If so, the Garden of Eden was probably not far distant, for it was the entrance at the east of the Garden which was closed against them at the time of the 'fall' (Genesis 3:24). In fact, it has been commonly understood among the Latter-day Saints, from the teachings of the Prophet, that the temple was to be built in or near the location of the Garden of Eden" (Evidences and Reconciliations, pg. 396).
    According to Heber C. Kimball, a temple block was dedicated. "While there we laid out a city on a high elevated piece of land, and set the stakes for the four corners of a temple block, which was dedicated, Brother Brigham being mouth" (Life of Heber C. Kimball, 2nd ed., pp. 208-209 as printed in BYU Studies, Autumn 1972, pg. 34).

    Dr. Robert J. Matthews of Brigham Young University states,
    "Although the 'temple block' was dedicated, apparently no corner stones were laid, and no temple was built. Persecution soon forced the Saints to flee Illinois, and thus the settlement had a short existence lasting only a few months, because by November 1838 the Saints were leaving their homes and abandoning Adam-ondi-Ahman" (BYU Studies, Autumn 1972, pg. 34).

    Smith also taught that Adam will once again come to visit this site. Mormon Apostle Bruce McConkie makes reference to this event and stated that a portion of Adam's altar had remained through the ages.

    He wrote,

    "At that great gathering Adam offered sacrifices on an altar built for the purpose. A remnant of that very altar remained on the spot down through the ages. On May 19, 1838 Joseph Smith and a number of his associates stood on the remainder of the pile of stones at a place called Spring Hill, Daviess County, Missouri. There the Prophet taught them that Adam again would visit in the Valley of Adam-ondi-Ahman, holding a great council as a prelude to the great and dreadful day of the Lord" (Mormon Doctrine, pg. 21).

    In volume one of his two-volume set entitled Joseph Smith Begins His Work, Wilford Wood includes a photograph of what he calls "stones from Adam's altar." Heber C. Kimball also wrote of this altar. He stated that Smith led them a short distance from the temple block and said, "There is the place where Adam offered up sacrifice after he was cast out of the garden" (BYU Studies, Autumn 1972, pg. 34).

    Thirteenth LDS Prophet Ezra Taft Benson also wrote how the garden of Eden was located in America. Under the section "Divine Destiny" in his book The Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson (pp. 587-588), he wrote,
    "Consider how very fortunate we are to be living in this land of America ... Many great events have transpired in this land of destiny. This was the place where Adam dwelt; this was the place where the Garden of Eden was; it was here that Adam met with a body of high priests at Adam-ondi-Ahman shortly before his death and gave them his final blessing, and the place to which he will return to meet with the leaders of his people (D&C 107:53-57). This was the place of three former civilizations: that of Adam, that of the Jaredites, and that of the Nephites."

    Notice also how Benson places the Nephites in the United States, not Central America as Mormon scholars are currently trying to do.

    In a sermon delivered by Orson Pratt, the LDS Apostle concurred with the aforementioned statements by saying,

    "We may, however, observe, that so far as new revelation has given us information on this subject, this Continent of ours may be ranked among the first lands occupied by the human family. The very first man who had dominion on the face of the earth, under the direction of the Heavens, once dwelt on this Continent, His name was Adam."

    Pratt continued by saying, "It was on this land where both Noah built his ark, which was blown by the winds of Heaven away to the east, and landed on Ararat" (Journal of Discourses 12:338).

    Like many teachings brought about by LDS leaders, the idea that the Garden of Eden was in Missouri cannot be supported by the Bible. Pratt admits this when he said, "These things are not revealed to us by the Bible, or by tradition, but by the inspiration of the Almighty through the great modern prophet who was raised up to commence this marvellous (sic) work of which you and I are now partakers" (Journal of Discourses 12:338).

    Who would have known! Just a few hours drive from Freehold!





    Last edited by Ezekiel Bathfire; 02-12-2010, 11:40 PM.
  • James Dewitt
    #63 on Forbes'...but #1 in Jesus's Heart
    • Jan 2010
    • 6267

    #2
    Re: The Garden of Eden is in Missouri

    here are a few links enjoy. Pictures too!


    The passage of time has probably made it impossible to know exactly where the Garden of Eden was located. While admitting that no theory comes without difficulties, Dr. Roland K. Harrison, professor of Old Testament at Wycliffe College, Toronto, writes, "On the basis of currently available information it would appear that the one that locates Eden near the head of the Persian Gulf combines the greatest number of probabilities of every kind"( International Standard Bible Encyclopedia 2:17). The general consensus of conservative Christian scholars point to the Mesopotamian Valley area. The fact that Genesis 2:14 speaks of the Euphrates River, a river still in existence, gives credence to this. Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism, and many of his successors have disagreed with such a view and point instead to present-day North America.


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    • Meek and Humble
      Biblical Poet, Warrior and Scholar
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      True Christian™
      • Dec 2008
      • 6197

      #3
      Re: The Garden of Eden is in Missouri

      Brother James, I thought you were a True Christian(tm)! What are you doing quoting the wacky beliefs of a blasphemous false MORMON prophet?!?!

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      • James Dewitt
        #63 on Forbes'...but #1 in Jesus's Heart
        • Jan 2010
        • 6267

        #4
        Re: The Garden of Eden is in Missouri

        Originally posted by Heathen_Basher View Post
        Brother James, I thought you were a True Christian™! What are you doing quoting the wacky beliefs of a blasphemous false MORMON prophet?!?!

        Brother Basher, I did not mean to quote the false prophet!

        I though it was hilarious.... I mean really Missouri.
        I even read that the guy thought Noah built the ark in Missouri too!

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        • Levi Jones
          Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
          Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
          Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
           
          • Jul 2009
          • 13930

          #5
          Re: The Garden of Eden is in Missouri

          Um, I am feeling rather uneasy about reading this. I assume Brother Jimmy is just messing with us.

          You joker, you.
          Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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          • Paul Jeffery
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            • Dec 2009
            • 272

            #6
            Re: The Garden of Eden is in Missouri

            Is there no end to the hogwash these false Christian sects (such as LDS, for one) will try to get their followers to believe? I had always fancied myself fairly well dialed in to the beliefs of the pseudo-Christian cults, but this I did not know. My, oh my!

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            • Mrs. Rogers
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              • Sep 2006
              • 2692

              #7
              Re: The Garden of Eden is in Missouri

              Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
              I even read that the guy thought Noah built the ark in Missouri too!
              Oh dear, perhaps Pratt believed Noah made use of injun labor to build the ark, with payment by way of a few beads and blankets? What a ridiculous idea -- the ark that ferried two of every creature being built in Missouri. The ark was built somewhere in the dreary and sandy Middle East of Old, after GOD provided Noah with the construction blueprint!

              This LDS nonsense really is an insult to commonsense.
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              • Rev. Jim Osborne
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                • Jun 2009
                • 8622

                #8
                Re: The Garden of Eden is in Missouri

                Originally posted by Heathen_Basher View Post
                Brother James, I thought you were a True Christian™! What are you doing quoting the wacky beliefs of a blasphemous false MORMON prophet?!?!
                LOL, that's just like Jimmy with his sense of humor. I can clearly see the sarcasm of his post.

                Good work! I had a belly laugh reading this!

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                • Larry Lee
                  Predestinated Servant of Jesus Christ by the Will of God
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                  • Sep 2006
                  • 4464

                  #9
                  Re: The Garden of Eden is in Missouri??

                  All hilarity aside, I think we can learn a very important lesson here about Satan and his deceptions.

                  As Brother James pointed out in his original post, Missouri is only a hop, a skip, a jump and a quick drive down Highway 63 from us up here in Freehold. Obviously, Satan tried to use John Smith and the Mormons to establish a "false Freehold" in Missouri.

                  It's like Paul wrote in his second epistle to the Corinthians:

                  Originally posted by Almighty God speaking through Paul in 2nd Corinthians 4:4

                  The god of this world (Satan) hath blinded the minds of them which believe not (John Smith and the Mormons in Missouri, who willfully served their evil master's bidding by erecting a "Garden of Eden" in Jackson County -- in mocking jealousy of what we built in Freehold), lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God (that would be us True Christians™, who remain steadfast servants of our Lord Jesus Christ) should shine unto them (fat chance of that happening anytime soon to a Mormon, the God-haters).
                  Verily, Satan is a counterfeit of Almighty God, which is a terrible truth that's beautifully illustrated by the close proximity of the Mormon Garden of Eden in Missouri to God's Favorite Church in Iowa.
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                  • James Dewitt
                    #63 on Forbes'...but #1 in Jesus's Heart
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 6267

                    #10
                    Re: The Garden of Eden is in Missouri

                    Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
                    LOL, that's just like Jimmy with his sense of humor. I can clearly see the sarcasm of his post.

                    Good work! I had a belly laugh reading this!
                    I hope that none of you thought that I really believed this load of manure from the Mormons. Evey one with a brain knows that The Garden of Eden was in the Middle East as well as the construction of the ARK. This guy Joe Smith also wants us to believe that his book was translated from some plates he found buried in the dirt in New York, but then he lost them? In the first place who would bury something God was to have written in the dirt, base your ENTIRE religion on them and then misplaced them. I am thinking I would keep better track of them than that.

                    Say wasn't Mark Twain from Missouri too? He sure could tell a whopper of a story to!

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                    • Daisy Mae Johnson
                      The Future Mrs. Ezekiel Flint
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                      aka the Biblethumpin Blonde
                      True Christian™
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 15708

                      #11
                      Re: The Garden of Eden is in Missouri??

                      But WHY wouldn't the Garden of Eden be found here....in America..... GOD'S Favorite Country?

                      I'm sure it would be a much more beautiful and pleasant place, what with us being all white and blond-haired and blue-eyed, like JESUS. And golly, who is any paler or whiter than folks that live in Missouri or Iowa? Who see little sun, but plenty of the SON!

                      Who wants to be in "Paradise" when you are surrounded by a bunch of smelly, dark-skinned, devil worshiping towel heads?
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                      • Aristotle
                        On the straight and narrow path to Heaven.
                        True Christian™
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 470

                        #12
                        Re: The Garden of Eden is in Missouri

                        Originally posted by Paul Jeffery View Post
                        Is there no end to the hogwash these false Christian sects (such as LDS, for one) will try to get their followers to believe? I had always fancied myself fairly well dialed in to the beliefs of the pseudo-Christian cults, but this I did not know. My, oh my!

                        It always amazes me that people fall for these kookie religious beliefs instead of just following GOD'S WORD (KJV)

                        "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

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                        • True Disciple
                          True Christian™ Creation Scientist
                          Landover Baptist University Associate Professor
                          Smashing atheist science one fact at a time
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                          • Nov 2009
                          • 2445

                          #13
                          Re: The Garden of Eden is in Missouri??

                          Originally posted by BibleThumpinBlonde View Post
                          Who wants to be in "Paradise" when you are surrounded by a bunch of smelly, dark-skinned, devil worshiping towel heads?
                          Well, at the time of Adam and Eve, there weren't no towelheads yet, and when the Lord Jesus returns and New Jerusalem is built, all towelheads will be burning in Hell. So they will never be a problem I think.

                          Furthermore, the Bible says the following:

                          Genesis 2:10-14:
                          And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads. The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
                          And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
                          And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
                          And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.

                          We know the Euphrates is in Vietraq, and Assyria is there as well. The Gihon went to Ethiopia, and isn't in America either. So, the only way the Garden of Eden can be in America is when the Pison is an archaic name for the Mississippi, and Havilah is an old name for Iowa.
                          Sweet Lord Jesus,
                          I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
                          Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
                          Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
                          Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
                          Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
                          Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
                          Praised be Your Glorious Name™.

                          Amen.

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                          • SayvedByTheLord
                            Sinner Who Has Found the Truth©
                            True Christian™
                            • May 2007
                            • 3151

                            #14
                            Re: The Garden of Eden is in Missouri??

                            The LSD sect was sent by satan to try and mislead man. Jose Smitho came into our Godly country out of beanerville to purposely spread lies.

                            Gold plates, visions, he obviously brought plenty of that mescaline cactus with him


                            Leviticus 26:27-29

                            27 And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me;
                            28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
                            29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.

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                            • exMormon
                              True Christian™
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 282

                              #15
                              Re: The Garden of Eden is in Missouri??

                              As an ex- Moron myself I can bear witness to what James Dewitt has said here today. These people believe some wacky stuff.

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