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For those of you who still harbor doubts that the practice of astrology is a serious sin, I am posting excerpts of my recent sermon on the subject here.


Astrology is a serious sin. It is an abomination unto God. It is nothing less than witchcraft. It is a type of occultism, no different than Ouija boards, Tarot cards, Dungeons and Dragons, and palm reading. All inncocent fun, right? That's exactly what the Devil wants you to think. Astrology is every bit as dangerous as Harry Potter and Pokemon.

Astrology is also Idolatry. We need to realize that Astrology is a false religion because it is worshiping and serving the Sun, Moon and planets. Think about it. When we seek instruction and guidance from astrological charts or horoscopes, we are bowing-down and serving the Sun, Moon and planets. When we do not make decisions in our lives without first consulting a chart or when we allow a chart to influence our actions, are we not placing our faith and hope in the Sun, Moon and planets? We should be placing our trust in God, and God alone.

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Lev.19:26
Neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times.

Dt.18:10-12
There shall not be found among you any ... that useth divination, or an observer of times.... For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD.

Is.47:13-14
Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.

Jer.10:2
Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

Rather, God created the stars and planets and the firmament to guide us along our way at night, and to help us count the days, seasons and years. Also, for Signs God sends.

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Genesis 1:14: And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons.

Matthew 2:1-2: Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

Luke 21:25: And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars.
Astrology is incompatible with the true religion of God. Astrology tells us that the heavenly bodies determine our personality, not God. Astrology tells us that our steps are determined by heavenly bodies, not God. Astrology tells us that the future is already determined by the heavenly bodies, not God. Astrology is a religion unto itself. It is an idolatrous religion. It rejects the sovereignty and providence of God in the Universe. It puts the Universe in control instead of God over the Universe.

We need to be careful that we not take Astrology lightly. We should never refer to ourselves as a Taurus or a Pisces or a Leo or a Scorpio, etc.. When we do this, we are associating ourselves with and promoting something that is detestable to our God. We are endorsing pagan idolatry.

Astrology Is A Delusion.
If there was any validity to Astrology, God would certainly endorse and promote it. But the truth is, God says it is nothing but a delusion.
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Jeremiah 10:2-3, “Thus says the Lord, "Do not learn the way of the nations, and do not be terrified by the signs of the heavens although the nations are terrified by them; for the customs of the peoples are delusion.”

Astrology originated in Babylonia and, by Jeremiah’s day, most of the heathen nations around Israel had adopted the practice. But, God says that the Israelites were not to follow their example. Astrology, like all other idolatrous religions, are a delusion…futile and vain. There is nothing to them of any credibility and value.

When Nebuchadnezzar had a dream which predicted the future of the world and its coming empires, as recorded in Daniel 2, the astrologers were totally unable to provide any interpretation or explanation. It took God revealing the future through His prophet Daniel.

Babylonian astrologers (Daniel 5) were unable to predict the very destruction of their own Empire, even when the writing was on the wall. Only God revealed the information to Belshazzar through Daniel the prophet.

This brings me to an important point. Astrology never led its followers to the true God and His Will. Astrologers never provided Babylon with guidance that led them to righteousness. Astrologers never led Babylon down a path to avert its own destruction by the Hand of God. Yea, Babylon’s astrologers didn’t even have the insight to know that they were on the brink of destruction so as to save themselves. In Isaiah 47:11-15, God foretold how that idolatrous Babylon would fall and how that the astrologers would not save their Empire nor themselves, 150 years before it happened - "But evil will come on you Which you will not know how to charm away; And disaster will fall on you For which you cannot atone, And destruction about which you do not know Will come on you suddenly. Stand fast now in your spells and in your many sorceries with which you have labored from your youth; perhaps you will be able to profit, perhaps you may cause trembling. You are wearied with your many counsels; Let now the astrologers, those who prophesy by the stars, those who predict by the new moons, Stand up and save you from what will come upon you. Behold, they have become like stubble, Fire burns them; They cannot deliver themselves from the power of the flame; There will be no coal to warm by, Nor a fire to sit before! So have those become to you with whom you have labored, Who have trafficked with you from your youth; Each has wandered in his own way. There is none to save you.”

In that 15th verse is found a statement that highlights the vanity of Astrology - “Each has wandered in his own way.”

It is hard to find two astrologers who provide the same interpretation of a horoscope chart. Each astrologer claims to have special insights and if you compare one astrologer’s ‘readings’ and ‘predictions’ with another’s, they quite often differ and even contradict each other.

36 percent of believers in astrology believe it is scientific. However, numerous studies have been done to validate the accuracy of astrology in determining personality and events and none of them have shown astrologers to be more accurate than sheer random chance.

It is no small wonder that astrologers cannot convey any accurate information when you consider that the very basis of their beliefs are founded upon falsehood.

Let me give you one example of a scientific falsehood behind astrology.

The path that the Sun travels across the sky, from our vantage point, is called the ecliptic. The constellations that the ecliptic passes through have been known as the zodiac. The word “zodiac” is Greek for ‘circle of animals’ and refers to the fact that most of the constellations that have made-up the zodiac are named for animals, such as Leo, the Lion; Taurus, the Bull; and Cancer, the Crab, just to name a few. If we could see the stars in the daytime as well as we do at night, we would see the sun slowly wander from one constellation of the Zodiac to the next, making one complete circle around the sky in one year.

Whatever constellation of the zodiac the Sun is in when you are born, that is your horoscope sign. If the Sun was traveling through Leo the day you were born, you are a Leo. If the Sun was in Virgo, you are a Virgo. If the Sun was in Scorpio, you are a Scorpio.

You can read a horoscope column in the newspaper, magazine or book and it will show you what dates the Sun is located in each constellation of the zodiac. Or, it is supposed to.

The truth is that those dates that are assigned to each constellation or sign of the zodiac corrrespond to the positions that existed between 2000 and 3000 years ago. What is not acknowledged by astrologers is that the Earth wobbles on its axis over a period of 26,000 years (known as precession). What this means is the the ecliptic, the path of the Sun, moves over time against the background of the constellations. The dates and position of the Sun that are used today by astrologers are no longer valid. The Sun is not in the constellations they designate during the dates they designate.

In fact, 2500 years ago, the Sun seemed to pass through twelve constellations throughout the year; today, it passes through thirteen each year. The constellation Ophiuchus (the Serpent Bearer) should be added to the zodiac.

Moreover, the Moon and planets often travel north or south of the ecliptic. That means that they now pass through nine other constellations other than those that make up the zodiac - Auriga, the Charioteer; Cetus, the Whale; Corvus, the Crow; Crater, the Cup; Hydra, the Water Snake; Orion, the Hunter; Pegasus, the Flying Horse; Scutum, the Shield; and Sextans, the Sextant. So, in truth, there aren’t twelve zodiacal constellations that Astrologers must deal with but twenty-two!

The bottom line is that - even if the heavenly bodies influenced earthly affairs - how can astrologers claim to give accurate charts or horoscopes when they use astronomical data that has been out-of-date for over two thousand years?!? They don’t base their calculations and predictions on where the heavenly bodies are in our modern times but where they were nearly 500 years before Christ! Do you call that scientific?!?

When God calls Astrology a delusion, we better believe what He says.

Purpose of the Heavenly Bodies.
I want to close my remarks by once again considering what the Bible says as to what pupose the heavenly bodies serve.

1. To Give Light to the Earth.

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Genesis 1:14-18, “Then God said, ‘Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night…and let them be for lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth;’ and it was so. And God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also. And God placed them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, and to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness; and God saw that it was good.”

2. To Measure Time and Direction.

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Genesis 1:14, “Then God said, ‘Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to…be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years.’”

3. Reveal the Greatness of God the Creator.

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Psalm 19:1-4, “The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands. Day to day pours forth speech, And night to night reveals knowledge. There is no speech, nor are there words; Their voice is not heard. Their line has gone out through all the earth, And their utterances to the end of the world.”
Romans 1:20, “For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made.”
The stars should awaken wonder at God’s power, wisdom, and infinitude. We should use the stars to keep track of time and place and to remind us of God’s faithful, covenant-keeping nature. All the while, we acknowledge the Creator of the heavens. Our wisdom comes from God, not the stars (James 1:5). The Word of God, the Bible, is our guide through life (Psalm 119:105).


Astrology is also directly related to the sin of Numerology, which I have previously preached about.

So the next one of you clowns who tries telling me that Jesus is a "capricorn" is going to get SHUNNED!


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Godly sermon, Pastor.

But not only is astrology evil, it is plain dumb. Can you imagine thinking you see people in the stars? To be so bored you come up with back stories and actually believing that the stars can actually affect your personality?

It's so ridiculous.

We know it's all evil spirits and God's Holy Spirit that control who we are.
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Apparently this is the Capricornus constellation:



with its lines drawn in.


How can that represent a goat? Take the line away, and it becomes even more ridiculous. The same applies to all the other constellations these pagans worship.
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Yes, it puts me in mind of those dope snorting hippie paleontologists who find a bone fragment the size of a pea, and then extrapolate from this a whole new species of "monkey-man."

It's funny yet sad to see the pains these haters of God take to conjure up all manner of supposed contradictions of God's Truths.

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Edited - meaningless in the light of Pastor Zeke's post below.
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Apparently this is the Capricornus constellation:



with its lines drawn in.


How can that represent a goat? Take the line away, and it becomes even more ridiculous. The same applies to all the other constellations these pagans worship.
You know it really burns my biscuits when people start playing connect the dots with stars. That one above there looks like a woman's private area, her sin-patch. Probably satan's idea of a joke, to force God to look down upon stellar pornography.
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Astrology is one of the worst sins ever, and we all need to be on guard against it. Especially Capricorns, because they're especially susceptible to superstitious nonsense.
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It's just silly to think that the motions of the stars can predict your future. Because we have the Bible, we Christians are the only ones who can see the future clearly. Here's what the future holds for those who read horoscopes:

Aries: You're going to hell.

Taurus: You're going to hell.

Gemini: You're going to hell.

Cancer: You're going to hell.

Leo: You're going to hell.

Virgo: You're going to hell.

Libra: You're going to hell.

Scorpio: You're going to hell.

Sagittarius: You're going to hell.

Capricorn: You're going to hell.

Aquarius: You're going to hell.

Pisces: You're going to hell.

Compare this with what your magazine and radio horoscopes say and we'll see whose predictions come true. Our millennia-old Book, written by dozens of authors over many centuries, is a much more accurate guide to the future than the motions of heavenly bodies. It's time people gave up their primitive thinking.
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This is just another example of secular science's magical thinking

Secular scientists hide behind their Ven diagrams, their set squares and white coats because they don't want to admit that the so called science of Astrology is nothing more than wish fulfilment.

They may talk big with magnatars, gamma wave bursts, dark halos and radio telescopes but what actually do these do?

And answer me this: if the Big Bang exploded into being trillions of years ago what is it exploding into?

Your move atheists!

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Thank you, it really infuriates Jesus when these astrology sorcerers concoct mumbo jumbo on Zodiac signs (Cancer gets along with Capricorn etc.), offer to read your palm or pretend to foretell your future. I know my future is in Heaven at the right hand of Jesus himself, whereas all those of you believe in astrologers will go directly to Hell and that's 99.999% of the population of India who strongly believe in astrology as this stuff has plenty of followers here.

When Indians marry each other, they consult astrologers about their star position and combine those results with their stupid belief in reincarnation and cow worship animism. This country is a real hotbed of superstition and astrology takes center stage in deceiving gullible fools of their money

Let me out you on this not so secret thing, what do you to scam hard-working Americans of their money, you sell them Ponzi "get rich quick" schemes or inflated stocks on Wall Street. What do you do to get rich off gullible Indians? That's right, open an astrology shop, I know of Indian people who have been spending thousands of dollars (yes, that's US currency) to improve their astrology position.

I can't help but laugh at these charlatans and the Indian fools duped by them. I'm strongly protected by Jesus and don't require any fortune tellers to make up shit about my future
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As if there is anything up there in the stars that could affect us down here. We must be well over 500 miles from the nearest star.

This is interesting though. I checked and I wasn't born under Taurus. As a consequence, I have never owned one.

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When I saw the title of this thread, I was drawn to it immediately because astrology is something that I have struggled to understand as an obvious sin. Before I write even my second sentence, let it be known that I am here to learn. I am not here to debate. If you will allow, I would like to post the constituents of my question in hope that those of you who come to this thread will be able to settle my uncertainties. I hope that this thread was started to dispel uncertainties.

Although I have always identfied myself as a daughter of God, I grew to be in the science field, academically/professionally, because I have an analytical mind and calling to work hard through scientific research. Perhaps it is for this reason that viewing astrology as a sin confounds me.

1. I accept wholly that idoltry is wrong. I accept all the reasons why idoltry is wrong. It is not right and just to believe that anything other than God should be held in power. However, we utilise power every day, by driving cars, operating machinery, etc. We accept that whilst God is the all powerful, there are physical phenomena below God which have the power to effect us. Another example of this is disease.

When we identify that specific cellular and molecular functionality, for example, apoptosis, plays a key role in cancer. When we seek to stop or slow down this reactivity, via medical intervention, we assume automatically that the action/movement of cells and molecules affect the human condition.

In a similar way, the moon moves and affects the tides. This reactivity, in both examples, is just nothing more than physics. God made the planets and the cells and the molecules to function, as part of our functionality. When a person says that a planetary movement has an effect, I fail to see how this is to deny God. It seems as a mere tapestry of God's work.

2. I know that some people use astrology as guidence. For instance, knowing a certain month is going to be emotional, is that not the same as a weather forcast in knowing that a certain week is going to be wet? The planets are just a bit "higher" than the clouds. But nevertheless also operate within a very small microcosm, compared to the size of God's universe. In the past, when I have seen an astrological forecast, I have never thought anything other than the predicted event is an interpretation of God's plan. Forcasting rain is a predicted event of God's plan. I fail to see how heeding weather prediction therefore means that one worships clouds or worships chemistry.

These are just some preliminary questions that have troubled me for a long time. A poster above said about the indian culture who do rely on prediction. I can see how that is wrong, because that is reliance. If one sees it merely as a prospection, that seems different.

What will be will be and it is all in God's hands. I do not seek astrological prediction in any way, as I like to enjoy the present day that the LORD has given. I do not worry about tomorrow because I know that God is already there. Still, I see the planets as nothing more conceptually than cells. They move, they affect life on earth. I fail to see the sin in acknowledging that. Please do not be angry with me. I took the opportunity to ask.
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When I saw the title of this thread, I was drawn to it immediately because astrology is something that I have struggled to understand as an obvious sin. Before I write even my second sentence, let it be known that I am here to learn. I am not here to debate. If you will allow, I would like to post the constituents of my question in hope that those of you who come to this thread will be able to settle my uncertainties. I hope that this thread was started to dispel uncertainties.

Although I have always identfied myself as a daughter of God, I grew to be in the science field, academically/professionally, because I have an analytical mind and calling to work hard through scientific research. Perhaps it is for this reason that viewing astrology as a sin confounds me.

1. I accept wholly that idoltry is wrong. I accept all the reasons why idoltry is wrong. It is not right and just to believe that anything other than God should be held in power. However, we utilise power every day, by driving cars, operating machinery, etc. We accept that whilst God is the all powerful, there are physical phenomena below God which have the power to effect us. Another example of this is disease.

When we identify that specific cellular and molecular functionality, for example, apoptosis, plays a key role in cancer. When we seek to stop or slow down this reactivity, via medical intervention, we assume automatically that the action/movement of cells and molecules affect the human condition.

In a similar way, the moon moves and affects the tides. This reactivity, in both examples, is just nothing more than physics. God made the planets and the cells and the molecules to function, as part of our functionality. When a person says that a planetary movement has an effect, I fail to see how this is to deny God. It seems as a mere tapestry of God's work.

2. I know that some people use astrology as guidence. For instance, knowing a certain month is going to be emotional, is that not the same as a weather forcast in knowing that a certain week is going to be wet? The planets are just a bit "higher" than the clouds. But nevertheless also operate within a very small microcosm, compared to the size of God's universe. In the past, when I have seen an astrological forecast, I have never thought anything other than the predicted event is an interpretation of God's plan. Forcasting rain is a predicted event of God's plan. I fail to see how heeding weather prediction therefore means that one worships clouds or worships chemistry.

These are just some preliminary questions that have troubled me for a long time. A poster above said about the indian culture who do rely on prediction. I can see how that is wrong, because that is reliance. If one sees it merely as a prospection, that seems different.

What will be will be and it is all in God's hands. I do not seek astrological prediction in any way, as I like to enjoy the present day that the LORD has given. I do not worry about tomorrow because I know that God is already there. Still, I see the planets as nothing more conceptually than cells. They move, they affect life on earth. I fail to see the sin in acknowledging that. Please do not be angry with me. I took the opportunity to ask.
The Bible(KJV1611) tells us it is wrong. Please read the thread from the start.

End of story.

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When I saw the title of this thread, I was drawn to it immediately because astrology is something that I have struggled to understand as an obvious sin. Before I write even my second sentence, let it be known that I am here to learn. I am not here to debate. If you will allow, I would like to post the constituents of my question in hope that those of you who come to this thread will be able to settle my uncertainties. I hope that this thread was started to dispel uncertainties.

Although I have always identfied myself as a daughter of God, I grew to be in the science field, academically/professionally, because I have an analytical mind and calling to work hard through scientific research. Perhaps it is for this reason that viewing astrology as a sin confounds me.

1. I accept wholly that idoltry is wrong. I accept all the reasons why idoltry is wrong. It is not right and just to believe that anything other than God should be held in power. However, we utilise power every day, by driving cars, operating machinery, etc. We accept that whilst God is the all powerful, there are physical phenomena below God which have the power to effect us. Another example of this is disease.

When we identify that specific cellular and molecular functionality, for example, apoptosis, plays a key role in cancer. When we seek to stop or slow down this reactivity, via medical intervention, we assume automatically that the action/movement of cells and molecules affect the human condition.

In a similar way, the moon moves and affects the tides. This reactivity, in both examples, is just nothing more than physics. God made the planets and the cells and the molecules to function, as part of our functionality. When a person says that a planetary movement has an effect, I fail to see how this is to deny God. It seems as a mere tapestry of God's work.

2. I know that some people use astrology as guidence. For instance, knowing a certain month is going to be emotional, is that not the same as a weather forcast in knowing that a certain week is going to be wet? The planets are just a bit "higher" than the clouds. But nevertheless also operate within a very small microcosm, compared to the size of God's universe. In the past, when I have seen an astrological forecast, I have never thought anything other than the predicted event is an interpretation of God's plan. Forcasting rain is a predicted event of God's plan. I fail to see how heeding weather prediction therefore means that one worships clouds or worships chemistry.

These are just some preliminary questions that have troubled me for a long time. A poster above said about the indian culture who do rely on prediction. I can see how that is wrong, because that is reliance. If one sees it merely as a prospection, that seems different.

What will be will be and it is all in God's hands. I do not seek astrological prediction in any way, as I like to enjoy the present day that the LORD has given. I do not worry about tomorrow because I know that God is already there. Still, I see the planets as nothing more conceptually than cells. They move, they affect life on earth. I fail to see the sin in acknowledging that. Please do not be angry with me. I took the opportunity to ask.
Just exactly how does the gravity of the stars and the planets affect the future?

The gravitational effect on a person from this range is miniscule because the inverse square law means the strength of gravity reduces by the square of the distance.

You are more gravitically affected bus a bus driving past your house.

Even if the gravity was intense enough to have a meaningful effect HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT THE FUTURE?

Good grief.
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It may not be idolatry, but it is witchcraft. How can you say "knowing a certain month is going to be emotional", when you're talking about hocus pocus? Because a witch says it will be emotional, does not mean it will be emotional for you or anyone else for that matter. So clearly, it's not knowing anything about any month. If you re-read Pastor Zeke's first post, you will see that he deals with the aspect of witchcraft.
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Just exactly how does the gravity of the stars and the planets affect the future?

The gravitational effect on a person from this range is miniscule because the inverse square law means the strength of gravity reduces by the square of the distance.

You are more gravitically affected bus a bus driving past your house.

Even if the gravity was intense enough to have a meaningful effect HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT THE FUTURE?

Good grief.
I did not mention "gravity." There exist other theories in physics that could account for such things. It is not my aim to promote astrology, so I will not be describing them.
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It may not be idolatry, but it is witchcraft. How can you say "knowing a certain month is going to be emotional", when you're talking about hocus pocus? Because a witch says it will be emotional, does not mean it will be emotional for you or anyone else for that matter. So clearly, it's not knowing anything about any month. If you re-read Pastor Zeke's first post, you will see that he deals with the aspect of witchcraft.
You are right, I apologise, I used the word "know," when I meant "suppose" or something to that effect. As I said, I do not consult astrology in any way, so I agree with you that a forecast can affect perception and skew it. When not working, I devote my time to studying the Word, which includes asking questions. "Observing the times" can include other things besides astrology, such as meterology. The bible says that it is wrong, so I do not do it. I just wanted to know not why it is wrong, but how it compares to other things which may be interpreted in the same way.
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Default Re: Astrology is a Serious Sin!

There are no 'other forces'.

The only force that could have any affect over planetary ranges (at minimum) is gravity. If you rule that out you have nothing left to work with.

I can't beleive I am agreeing with the Bapwits when I say this but astrology is bollocks.
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