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  • #46
    Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

    Originally posted by Latvija13 View Post
    I read your sermon. It's very enlightening. I've included a link to a website dedicated to the kjvo debate. I don't see how you could see this site as evil as Will Kinney (maybe the name sounds familiar) frequents the discussion.

    http://kjvodebate.wordpress.com/
    There is no debate on this subject.

    And I'm certain that you did not read the entire sermon. God hates a liar.
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

    Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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    • #47
      Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

      Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
      There is no debate on this subject.

      And I'm certain that you did not read the entire sermon. God hates a liar.
      I do not lie. A True Christian cannot sin. Lying is a sin. But, does the name Will Kinney ring any bells?
      Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. Proverbs 23:13



      Run to the KJV1611!

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      • #48
        Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

        Originally posted by Latvija13 View Post
        I do not lie. A True Christian cannot sin. Lying is a sin. But, does the name Will Kinney ring any bells?
        You are not a True Christian(tm). Anything you have to say is suspect.

        Matthew 12:30:
        He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
        Who Will Jesus Damn?

        Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

        Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

        Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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        • #49
          Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

          Originally posted by Latvija13 View Post
          Since God wants His message to reach as many ears as possible, why would He not use as many versions of the Bible as possible to reach as many people as possible? Why does there have to be only one correct version.
          Easy. There is only one Message. You can't make multiple versions with an identical Message, because to achieve that, you would need to make those versions identical (every difference means a departure from the True Message), in which case they wouldn't be different versions anymore.

          This is why only one version can be True. And logically, this would be the one that has reached the most ears, the KJV. It has reached more ears than the original manuscripts, so they aren't True Versions either.
          Sweet Lord Jesus,
          I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
          Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
          Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
          Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
          Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
          Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
          Praised be Your Glorious Name™.

          Amen.

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          • #50
            Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

            Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
            There is no debate on this subject.

            And I'm certain that you did not read the entire sermon. God hates a liar.
            I am sure that he did not read the entire sermon either. If he saw your reply which referenced your sermon immediately upon you posting it he would have had to:
            - read your reply
            - read your sermon
            - post back his response in 26 minutes total

            If one is a skimmer then by all means it could be read that quickly but if one has doubts and contradicting ideas (such as Latvija13 obviously does) then there is no way that one could read, ponder and digest the sermon in such a carefree, nonchalant fashion.

            One thing that is without question: you, Latvija13, are not honest and you are of the belief that the word of the Lord is up for debate. When you look in the mirror do you see little horns sprouting out from beneath your unkempt mullet? I believe that you are a follower of the devil!

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            • #51
              Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

              Originally posted by Latvija13 View Post
              I do not lie.
              That is a lie.
              5 Reasons why GOD HATES WOMEN!
              To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
              James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

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              • #52
                Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

                Originally posted by humble servant View Post
                I am sure that he did not read the entire sermon either. If he saw your reply which referenced your sermon immediately upon you posting it he would have had to:
                - read your reply
                - read your sermon
                - post back his response in 26 minutes total


                If one is a skimmer then by all means it could be read that quickly but if one has doubts and contradicting ideas (such as Latvija13 obviously does) then there is no way that one could read, ponder and digest the sermon in such a carefree, nonchalant fashion.

                No, I read the sermon. I've also seen the sermon before. On Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:34:05 AM, http://www.kjv1611.org.uk/Seven%20Easy%20Ways.htm was posted, written by Will Kinney. I suppose Pastor Ezekiel could indeed by Will Kinney; however, why would he wait another nearly another seven months to post his sermon on this forum? If you check both are word for word including "Thank you for your time and attention. May God give you the grace and humility to come to the correct verdict and the only correct version. Through the electing grace of God, washed in the blood of the Lamb."

                One thing that is without question: you, Latvija13, are not honest and you are of the belief that the word of the Lord is up for debate. When you look in the mirror do you see little horns sprouting out from beneath your unkempt mullet? I believe that you are a follower of the devil!
                I am most certainly honest in what I say. I am not doubting the Lord, I use scriptural support for all of the evidence I've brought forth in this post. I'm accused of twisting the word of God for my own gain, but I only write with humility and honesty. I feel as though if any of the Christians of the past who stood up for something they felt was mistaken in belief of that time, that members of LBC would write them off as heretics and burn them at the stake. The Christian church was shaped by people who didn't always agree on everything within the Bible, the reasons for the early councils were to come to agreements on issues that were not agreed upon. But here, if someone contradicts essentially anything you hold to be true it automatically makes them a "follower of the devil."
                Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. Proverbs 23:13



                Run to the KJV1611!

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                • #53
                  Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

                  Originally posted by Latvija13 View Post
                  I'm accused of twisting the word of God for my own gain, but I only write with humility and honesty. I feel as though if any of the Christians of the past who stood up for something they felt was mistaken in belief of that time, that members of LBC would write them off as heretics and burn them at the stake.
                  What makes you think that? They never strayed from Biblical Law, so they were True Christians(tm). It's as simple as that.

                  The Christian church was shaped by people who didn't always agree on everything within the Bible, the reasons for the early councils were to come to agreements on issues that were not agreed upon.
                  I am sorry, friend, but you are talking about the catholic church now, which held councils to decide the demonic Apocryphal Books were included in their bible. We aren't catholics. We have never used a "council" in order to to agree on Biblical Law. We use the Bible for that.
                  Sweet Lord Jesus,
                  I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
                  Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
                  Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
                  Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
                  Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
                  Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
                  Praised be Your Glorious Name™.

                  Amen.

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                  • #54
                    Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

                    Originally posted by True Disciple View Post
                    What makes you think that? They never strayed from Biblical Law, so they were True Christians™. It's as simple as that.



                    I am sorry, friend, but you are talking about the catholic church now, which held councils to decide the demonic Apocryphal Books were included in their bible. We aren't catholics. We have never used a "council" in order to to agree on Biblical Law. We use the Bible for that.
                    I'm talking about the Council at Jerusalem in Acts 15.
                    Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. Proverbs 23:13



                    Run to the KJV1611!

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                    • #55
                      Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

                      Originally posted by Latvija13 View Post
                      I'm talking about the Council at Jerusalem in Acts 15.
                      Yes, and they settled the matter. Why are you trying to sow discord? Why do you hate Christians so much?

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                      • #56
                        Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

                        Originally posted by Heathen_Basher View Post
                        Yes, and they settled the matter. Why are you trying to sow discord? Why do you hate Christians so much?
                        Yes, they did settle the matter. But they also had a disagreement on a matter of faith. Also, I am not sowing discord, there is a difference between discord and attempting to show the truth.
                        Last edited by Robert Jones; 04-07-2010, 07:26 PM. Reason: The Lord speaks in mystrious ways.
                        Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. Proverbs 23:13



                        Run to the KJV1611!

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                        • #57
                          Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

                          Originally posted by Latvija13 View Post
                          Yes, they did settle the matter. But they also had a disagreement on a matter of faith. Also, I am not sowing discord, there is a difference between discord and attempting to show the truth.
                          Jesus is the only Truth we need around here

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                          • #58
                            Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

                            Originally posted by Latvija13 View Post
                            I've never once said that the KJV1611 is not the "most correct" English version of the Bible. I've simply pointed out that many biblical scholars have found translation errors within the text. I'm sure you know very well that the KJV has changed since the 1611 version, but I don't believe that is relevant because LBC is faithful to the 1611 version. Mind you, of the two that were published in 1611, I haven't found which one you're faithful to. I have noticed that LBC uses the newer publications of the KJV fairly liberally when quoting scripture. Apparently the spelling from 1611 doesn't quite register with everyone. To directly answer your question. I do believe that the KJV is the most correct English version of the Bible, but I think there is significant evidence to prove that it's not completely infallible.

                            I see. In that case, what is your solution? What are we to do?

                            It's one thing to criticize, but an entirely different matter to come up with a solution.

                            Perhaps we should make our own translation. We are so incredibly arrogant that we believe we can do better.

                            Perhaps we should pick and choose which translation best fits our preconceived notions. I happen to be fluent in most translations of the Bible, but asking your congregationalists to memorize and be fluent in many seems a bit inconsiderate and taxing to them.

                            How about we preachers learn Greek and Hebrew? Maybe we can be the only ones to read the Word. Perhaps we can plunge ourselves back into the Dark Ages?

                            Why do you hate literacy and knowledge of the Bible?
                            Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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                            • #59
                              Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

                              Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
                              I see. In that case, what is your solution? What are we to do?

                              It's one thing to criticize, but an entirely different matter to come up with a solution.

                              Perhaps we should make our own translation. We are so incredibly arrogant that we believe we can do better.

                              Perhaps we should pick and choose which translation best fits our preconceived notions. I happen to be fluent in most translations of the Bible, but asking your congregationalists to memorize and be fluent in many seems a bit inconsiderate and taxing to them.

                              How about we preachers learn Greek and Hebrew? Maybe we can be the only ones to read the Word. Perhaps we can plunge ourselves back into the Dark Ages?

                              Why do you hate literacy and knowledge of the Bible?
                              I'm not saying that you should change anything. I just don't see how you can say that no one can be saved without the KJV1611 Bible.
                              Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. Proverbs 23:13



                              Run to the KJV1611!

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                              • #60
                                Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

                                Why does this demon keep returning try to scatter the sheep of our flock

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