[marissa]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap

what if a married woman is raped?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap

you know they think the original jesus was black, would you accept that as truth?

If that would have been in the Bible, that would have been the truth. But it is not: Revelation 1:14 "His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire"

[heretoenlightenyou]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap

God is not punishing us. God is punishing the rapist. Read the verses again:

Deuteronomy 22:28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
Deuteronomy 22:29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

First of all the rapist is forced to compensate the girl's father. But God's infinite mercy doesn't end here (if it ended here it wouldn't be infinite, right?).

God knows that once a woman has played the whore against her father, no True Christian™ man would want to marry her. That's why God demands the rapist to marry her. In modern English this would be, "You broke it, you bought it".

"he may not put her away all his days". The punishment is directed at the rapist. Not only must he compensate the girls' father, but he also gets a life sentence.


That is correct, Not all Christians are like you.

We are some who read the Bible, live by the Bible and die by the Bible.

you know they think the original jesus was black, would you accept that as truth?

did you know back in his time jesus was thought as only a man, because thats what he was, a man who got his ass whipped publicly, displayed no power from a higher being, for hundreds of years he was thought of as only a man, religion never became big until generations died off and the only thing left were words and storys passed down.

not until the truth died did this shit start up, coicendence? i dont think so

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap

where is to lay with a women and rape the same?

Actually it is not exactly the same. It doesn't matter why the couple has sex. Consentual sex, drunk sex, "rape", etc. Deuteronomy 22:28-29 simply covers all of those. Rape is just a word a woman uses to blame the man after she seduced him. What matters is that they had sex.

[jtbabe]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap

Def of Rape:

Rape is sexual activity – specifically penetration or sexual violation of the genital organs or anus – perpetrated by one person against the will of another, either by using force or coercion, or by rendering the victim incapable of resisting.
More broadly, it may be defined as forcing a person to submit to any sex act, and is generally considered one of the most serious crimes.

"to lay with a women" definition:
and it means, among other things, "to lay with a woman" (as in to have sexual intercourse).For a man to lay with a woman, exactly two conditions–no more and no less–must be true. These are a) they intend to conceive a child, and b) they are married.³

where is to lay with a women and rape the same?

[Ibelievenietzchienot]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap

Then he must be 'persuaded' with some tough love, obviously.
Seeing as God commanded that "he may not put her away all his days" - He doesn't have a right to refuse.
If impossibe to persuade however; I'd say he would be treated like any other rapist and put to death.

If a woman is raped she should take legal action against her rapist and the get checked for sds! He is a criminal and she has been assualted!

[BelieverInGod]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap

Huh, you can't edit your posts? Oh well.

I was just going to add that I respectfully disagree with CrankyOldMan

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now you must go and marry him what the hell?
After the girl had sex she is no longer a virgin. So she can no longer marry. The rule is there to protect her honor and her soul.

From my understanding, the breaking of the hymen is what makes you married. Therefore a rapist and his 'victim' are married in the eyes of God whether either one likes it or not. If he refuses to marry her, the sin is on his head. But she cannot marry because she is already married, and as Jesus said

Matthew 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap

Talitha i understand very well you guys have major issues lets see what will your view be if they break into your house hold your husband at gun point and rape you infront of him, now you must marry your rapist by the way or does it only work for people who are not in your church.

If the woman who is raped is married both she and the rapist have to be stoned to death. These kinds of rape can easily be prevented by have a few loaded guns around the house and use them to kill any intruders.

and crany old man, Where in that scripture does it say the words if a man RAPES a women he must marry her please show me that.

We already gave you the scripture several times! In case you do not understand 1611 English: "the man that lay with her".

the old lady story is didnt ask if rape is a sin of course it is what im asking is a INNOCENT lady is at home and doing nothing and i man breaks in and rapes her what now?

Since the women did nothing to prevent it, e.g. with a decent chastity belt, she is a whore.

WHAT ABOUT BABIES WHO GET RAPED EXPLAIN HOW THEY ARE WHORES?

They are not whores of course. Young children are innocent. It is up to their parents to provide proper protection. I assure you none of my daughters and grand daughters ever got "raped".

what does Mark 3:29 (King James Version) But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation. Have to do with anything that i have asked you guys?

Nothing, it is my forum signature.

now you must go and marry him what the hell?

After the girl had sex she is no longer a virgin. So she can no longer marry. The rule is there to protect her honor and her soul.

[jtbabe]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap

Talitha i understand very well you guys have major issues lets see what will your view be if they break into your house hold your husband at gun point and rape you infront of him, now you must marry your rapist by the way or does it only work for people who are not in your church.

and crany old man, Where in that scripture does it say the words if a man RAPES a women he must marry her please show me that.

Ok you say then the girl must be homeschooled, Last time i checked that is expensive. What about a 4 year old who gets raped because her parents are held at gunpoint you seemed to have no reply on that one do you?

the old lady story is didnt ask if rape is a sin of course it is what im asking is a INNOCENT lady is at home and doing nothing and i man breaks in and rapes her what now?

and yes i do read my bible by the way, it seems you have forgotten what Jesus came to do and what he taught.

i read up on your proof link is there something wrong with you people, the women wanted to get back at david copperfield and accused him of rape, now you use this as a back up to prove rape victims are whores once again i ask you WHAT ABOUT BABIES WHO GET RAPED EXPLAIN HOW THEY ARE WHORES?

'Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly. Lev 19 :15. Do not pervert justice and do nto show favouritism. remember that.

what does Mark 3:29 (King James Version)
But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.
Have to do with anything that i have asked you guys?

and GOd=Life look how you cut out pieces of how i wrote and made up your own assumption, typical people taking things and adding things to the word of God which by teh way is a sin.

explain Heb 8:13 13In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. because you got your whole rape story from the old testament.

please one last thing explain this smiley to me because its kinda insulting ?????????????????????????????????????????????????



i understand that th rapist will be punished, but think about it isnt it a worse punishment to marry a rapist are you mad a starnger comes into your house at night and rapes you, now you must go and marry him what the hell?? crazy crazy crazy

[Pastor Rune Enoe]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap

its sad to see that Gods name gets used and abused in this world. God is a God of Love not a man sitting upstairs trying to punish us.

God is not punishing us. God is punishing the rapist. Read the verses again:

Deuteronomy 22:28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
Deuteronomy 22:29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

First of all the rapist is forced to compensate the girl's father. But God's infinite mercy doesn't end here (if it ended here it wouldn't be infinite, right?).

God knows that once a woman has played the whore against her father, no True Christian™ man would want to marry her. That's why God demands the rapist to marry her. In modern English this would be, "You broke it, you bought it".

"he may not put her away all his days". The punishment is directed at the rapist. Not only must he compensate the girls' father, but he also gets a life sentence.

i apologise tohe heathen girl who placed a quote on here, not all christians are like this i can promse you that.

That is correct, Not all Christians are like you.

We are some who read the Bible, live by the Bible and die by the Bible.

[GOD=life]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap

I ...the Bible ...if the Bible ...

The Bible does mention this. In fact, it's meant as compensation for the girl who is raped. If she wouldn't be a slut in the first place, she wouldn't have gotten raped.

Please read the Bible before commenting on it. Thanks.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap

he bible did not say that if a women is raped that you must marry the rapist, if the bible said those words then by all means i would believe it

Read your Bible friend: Deuteronomy 22:28-29 "If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days."

you take the bible and make up what you think it means

No we just read it. All of it.

now a innocent girl is walking home from school and gets raped

This could only happen if her parents failed to properly protect her. E.g. by homeschooling their kids.

what about a old lady who is sitting at home and a guy breaks in and holds her at gun point and rapes her she was at home and being innocent

What you seem to miss here is that God is against rape. Rape is a sin.

its sad to see that Gods name gets used and abused in this world. God is a God of Love not a man sitting upstairs trying to punish us.

Did you actually read the Bible? It seems you mist most of it.



Some scripture from the KJV1611 Holy Bible:

How little we care about your insults: Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

Why you need to follow the entire Bible: 2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"

Why we must judge you to save your soul: Leviticus 19:15 "In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour." John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

Why it is very important to avoid hell (you are heading straight for it at the moment): Mark 9:43 "And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched"

[Talitha]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap

What part of:

If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

Did you not understand?

[jtbabe]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap

I came acroos this website by accident and i can honestly say that this is so sad. the bible did not say that if a women is raped that you must marry the rapist, if the bible said those words then by all means i would believe it. This is the what Jesus meant when he said that in the end times people will use Jesus and christianity to decieve the world. you take the bible and make up what you think it means.

So please explain to me when i grown man rapes a 4year old what happens then she must marry him at the Age 4, or when a 11 year old rapes a kid. now a innocent girl is walking home from school and gets raped , now she is going to burn in hell because some man couldnt control his urges.

what about a old lady who is sitting at home and a guy breaks in and holds her at gun point and rapes her she was at home and being innocent. unfortunately we live in a world of sin and God cant control anybody and we have free will and make our own choices we can only but trust the Lord to protect us.

i dare you to come to south africa or basically anywhere outside your comfort zone and bring your children and your wife with and lets see what happens and how you change your way of thinking when your wife gets raped or your little girl or your daughter or even your son.

its sad to see that Gods name gets used and abused in this world. God is a God of Love not a man sitting upstairs trying to punish us.

The sad things comes in when people are seeking God and seeking to get saved and they come across you guys and you just show them that christianity sucks.

you dont allow unsaved people in your church, then explain to me what you guys are doing in that church. people go to church to look for and answer and get saved.

Oh yes whats up with not allowing people in your church that have not bathed for weeks thats judging and God said he is the only judge. i studyed to be a pastor and we were warned about people like this and im so shocked and i cant believe thatu drag Jesus name down the drain.

i apologise tohe heathen girl who placed a quote on here, not all christians are like this i can promse you that.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap

So with such strong judgement on rape, you have been raped?

And are you happily married to your heathen rapist or did you also sin on this one?

Or is it that you're not sure if you were willing?

Do explain...

PRAISE THE LORD!

I don't think she's ever been raped...she did rape a goat once, though.