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  • Brother Barnabus
    True Christian™
    True Christian™
    • Apr 2010
    • 388

    #1

    Pastors .. Some guidance Please

    I was led off topic in another thread when Sister Handmaiden mentioned Lot and his Daughters.

    Genesis 19:31-38

    31And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:
    32Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
    33And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
    34And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
    35And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
    36Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
    37And the first born bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.
    38And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.


    I've always wondered how Lot gets drunk on 2 successive nights, knocks up both daughters and is a Biblical Patriarch. The neighbor across the street fondled his niece and got 10 years in the pen. The judge didn't buy his "I was drunk" excuse.

    Can you Pastors please explain why Lot and his daughter are not in hell instead of being Godly characters in our Holy Bible????
    Nahum 1:2

    God is jealous, and the LORD revengeth; the LORD revengeth, and is furious; the LORD will take vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies.


    If God is Love ... Who created Hell??!!
  • Ezekiel Bathfire
    Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
    Christ's Rottweiler
     
    • Jan 2008
    • 22878

    #2
    Re: Pastors .. Some guidance Please

    Let’s be clear on this one, your neighbor is a pervert and his niece is a whore, electrocution would be too good for them.

    Lot is in the Line of David and an ancestor of Christ. Whether he knew or not – the Salvation of Mankind lay between his legs. His daughters, inspired by God, say as much, “that we may preserve seed of our father.”

    God looks to the motive not the action. Those sufficiently spiritual are able to conduct themselves in ways that, amongst the godless, would be criminal and yet fear no retribution.

    Solomon took foreign wives and allowed them to practise idolatry; David did homer things to Jonathan and killed Uriah so he might go in unto Uriah’s wife, Jesus beat the sellers of doves at the temple and killed someone’s fig tree, Jephthah set fire to his daughter, What’s-his-name sicked a bear onto children, etc., etc.

    Are these Acts to stand in the way of the Gift of God – Eternal Life through Salvation and the forgiveness of sins? I think not.

    Brother Barnabus, let us not be small minded here.

    PS (Can’t you run the niece out of town? I assume the creep, her uncle, is already serving life.)

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    • handmaiden
      Is a good, decent True Christian™ lady
      True Christian™
      • May 2010
      • 11344

      #3
      Re: Pastors .. Some guidance Please

      Lot was clearly a man of God. He was willing to sacrifice his two daughters' virginity in order to protect two of the Lord's angels from being gang raped.

      That would have been a loss of what-- 100 shekels right there. Talk about willing to give up all you own to follow God!

      Praisefully Yours,

      Handmaiden
      His left hand should be under my head, and his right hand should embrace me.

      Guns For God and the Economy

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      • handmaiden
        Is a good, decent True Christian™ lady
        True Christian™
        • May 2010
        • 11344

        #4
        Re: Pastors .. Some guidance Please

        Relax, Kick your shoes off. Praise Jesus!!! (Blacks and Homosexuals strictly prohibited!)




        See above for some of the guidance I received from our brothers when I was pondering Lot.



        Helpfully Yours,

        Handmaiden
        His left hand should be under my head, and his right hand should embrace me.

        Guns For God and the Economy

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        • Brother Barnabus
          True Christian™
          True Christian™
          • Apr 2010
          • 388

          #5
          Re: Pastors .. Some guidance Please

          Thank you Brother Bathfire and Sister Handmaiden.

          I'm fortunate to have the guidance of True Christians such as yourselves to help explain the more difficult concepts to me. Probably some spiritual defect in one of my ancestors is why God has wisely chosen to not grant me the intellect and wisdom to figure these things out on my own.

          Praise Jesus, Amen!
          Nahum 1:2

          God is jealous, and the LORD revengeth; the LORD revengeth, and is furious; the LORD will take vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies.


          If God is Love ... Who created Hell??!!

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