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  • Flamburgers
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    Re: God HATES Rational Thinking!

    Originally posted by True Disciple View Post
    Friend, no matter how good your intentions were, there are several things wrong with your explanation.

    Firstly, rational thinking doesn't prove either God or His Creation: Faith does. Fine-tuned constants in the universe might imply that it was created in the First Place, but only True Christian™ Faith reveals that this creator was actually the God of the Bible.

    Secondly, your views on cosmology seem to differ enormously from Biblical Cosmology. The Bible teaches that stars are just simple little lights that can be cast to the Earth:

    Daniel 8:10:
    And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.

    Matthew 24:29:
    Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

    Mark 13:25:
    And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.

    Revelation 6:13:
    And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

    Revelation 12:4:
    And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

    The calculations that supposedly prove how unlikely it is for life to from are dependent on a non-Biblical cosmology; one that supposes that stars are as big as the sun. The above Verses prove that God's Holy Bible disagrees with that notion: stars are little things which can fall to the Earth.



    Again, I strongly disagree with you here. Rational thinking led to the invention of evolutionary theory, which explains the occurence of complex structures without regarding God's Creative Actions. This is why evolution is wrong. They can blabber on if they like about "exaptation, changing functions of complex systems and evolution within systems," but we True Christians™ know that this is all rational nonsense, which the Bible teaches we should reject.


    wait what
    Just so you know
    God is powerful enough to trick us silly humans
    into thinking ANYTHING
    which also means he can create the largest and most complex puzzle
    to dumbfound scientists any way he chooses
    so if he found a way to trick people into thinking one thing so they could be content.
    Why not be happy with all ultimatums because GOD created this world
    and knows more about it then every single version of the bible ever
    do you doubt him?
    then why does anyone bring up arguments about gods will when
    GOD DOESENT HATE RATIONAL THINKING its why we are still alive
    he loves our ingenuity and creativity (for thos who WILL bring up satan and the apple and how god hates us Burn where nonbeleivers burn)
    that is all

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  • True Disciple
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    Re: God HATES Rational Thinking!

    Originally posted by lukasekman View Post
    It's not entirely true.
    Rational thinking and science brings actual prove for the existence of God, and the Creation.
    For instance, scientists have found out that the universe is amazingly well tuned. If the strong nuclear force was a few percent stronger, stars wouldn't exist. And if the fine structure constant were slightly different, carbon wouldn't be stable. Same goes for several other natural constants. It is simply impossible for a randomly generated universe to be suitable for life.
    Friend, no matter how good your intentions were, there are several things wrong with your explanation.

    Firstly, rational thinking doesn't prove either God or His Creation: Faith does. Fine-tuned constants in the universe might imply that it was created in the First Place, but only True Christian(tm) Faith reveals that this creator was actually the God of the Bible.

    Secondly, your views on cosmology seem to differ enormously from Biblical Cosmology. The Bible teaches that stars are just simple little lights that can be cast to the Earth:

    Daniel 8:10:
    And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.

    Matthew 24:29:
    Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

    Mark 13:25:
    And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.

    Revelation 6:13:
    And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

    Revelation 12:4:
    And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

    The calculations that supposedly prove how unlikely it is for life to from are dependent on a non-Biblical cosmology; one that supposes that stars are as big as the sun. The above Verses prove that God's Holy Bible disagrees with that notion: stars are little things which can fall to the Earth.

    And even if the impossible happened, how could all these amazingly well-designed lifeforms be created? Modern biochemistry prove that the design of even so called simple lifeforms is superior to the most advanced technology.

    So, rational thinking prove the Creation. It's the atheists who don't want you to make the conclusion.
    Again, I strongly disagree with you here. Rational thinking led to the invention of evolutionary theory, which explains the occurence of complex structures without regarding God's Creative Actions. This is why evolution is wrong. They can blabber on if they like about "exaptation, changing functions of complex systems and evolution within systems," but we True Christians(tm) know that this is all rational nonsense, which the Bible teaches we should reject.

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  • lukasekman
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    Re: God HATES Rational Thinking!

    It's not entirely true.
    Rational thinking and science brings actual prove for the existence of God, and the Creation.
    For instance, scientists have found out that the universe is amazingly well tuned. If the strong nuclear force was a few percent stronger, stars wouldn't exist. And if the fine structure constant were slightly different, carbon wouldn't be stable. Same goes for several other natural constants. It is simply impossible for a randomly generated universe to be suitable for life.
    And even if the impossible happened, how could all these amazingly well-designed lifeforms be created? Modern biochemistry prove that the design of even so called simple lifeforms is superior to the most advanced technology.

    So, rational thinking prove the Creation. It's the atheists who don't want you to make the conclusion.

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  • charlesdarwinsucks
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    Re: God HATES Rational Thinking!

    Sir, may I ask what mental condition you have?

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  • Meek and Humble
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    Re: God HATES Rational Thinking!

    Originally posted by Davion View Post
    Read the constitution!

    First Amendment

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    That says that the government cannot control the churches.

    It does not say the churches cannot control the government.

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  • Davion
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    Re: God HATES Rational Thinking!

    There is no contradiction. Atheists need to shut their yaps and go back in the closet along with the queers. This is a Christian nation.
    Read the constitution!

    First Amendment

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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  • Davion
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    Re: God HATES Rational Thinking!

    without mans which use Rational Thinking you couldn't use the Internet to spread your hate around!

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Re: God HATES Rational Thinking!

    Originally posted by fuzzyotter View Post
    You just contradicted yourself. What you just said shows that you have no respect for the beliefs of other. How can anyone respect you if you don't respect them?
    You're an admitted queer pervert. You don't even respect yourself, and God wants you dead and sent to hell for eternal damnation and torture. I wouldn't bring up respect if I were you, nancyboy.

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  • Levi Jones
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    Re: God HATES Rational Thinking!

    Originally posted by fuzzyotter View Post
    You just contradicted yourself. What you just said shows that you have no respect for the beliefs of other. How can anyone respect you if you don't respect them?
    There is no contradiction. Atheists need to shut their yaps and go back in the closet along with the queers. This is a Christian nation.

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  • fuzzyotter
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    Re: God HATES Rational Thinking!

    Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post
    We TRUE Christians™ agree. There is a disgusting lack of respect for us from the Atheists. We Christians are obligated by our beliefs to view anyone who disagrees with us as dangerous perverts who must be utterly destroyed for the good of society, but Atheists have no such belief. Atheists should show us Christians some respect by shutting and agreeing with what we Christians say.

    God commands me to hate atheists, but no one commands an atheists to do it back!
    You just contradicted yourself. What you just said shows that you have no respect for the beliefs of other. How can anyone respect you if you don't respect them?

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  • James Hutchins
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    Re: God HATES Rational Thinking!

    Originally posted by Miss OpenMinded View Post
    1) you took that out of context. what i said was if you hurt others for their beliefs than i believe you do not deserve any more respect. ("you" being general.) and that is what i feel.
    2) he was very one-sided. that was a fact. mean or not, that is the truth. im sorry if you took it to heart.
    3)how is this impolite... i thought i had.
    4)again, i really was trying not to...

    i'll leave. obviously i am not welcome and i am not being heard.
    you all deserve respect and understanding; acceptance is a different story.
    that can be applied to me too.

    goodbye and "God bless".
    We are trying to accept you, we want to accept you. It is just hard when you criticize every aspect of our way of life. For the life of me, I do not know why you do not want to try to accept us.
    I do not want you to go. I am hopeful that through time and mutual respect, we can air out feelings and find common grounds. Do not shut us out.
    Last edited by James Hutchins; 12-15-2010, 12:54 AM.

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  • Miss OpenMinded
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    Re: God HATES Rational Thinking!

    1) you took that out of context. what i said was if you hurt others for their beliefs than i believe you do not deserve any more respect. ("you" being general.) and that is what i feel.
    2) he was very one-sided. that was a fact. mean or not, that is the truth. im sorry if you took it to heart.
    3)how is this impolite... i thought i had.
    4)again, i really was trying not to...

    i'll leave. obviously i am not welcome and i am not being heard.
    you all deserve respect and understanding; acceptance is a different story.
    that can be applied to me too.

    goodbye and "God bless".

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  • James Hutchins
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    Re: God HATES Rational Thinking!

    Originally posted by Miss OpenMinded View Post
    ........... i believe that you no longer deserve any form of respect; and yes, that is my opinion, not a fact...............I just feel like there is a lack of respect on both sides in this forum.
    Originally posted by Miss OpenMinded View Post
    You are very one-sided. ............ You don't have to accept them.........
    Originally posted by Miss OpenMinded View Post
    I feel like I've made my point. .........
    Originally posted by Miss OpenMinded View Post
    how am i narrow minded? and how am i negative?

    and im trying to not spread hate, that was the whole point of my post.

    also, this is not a private website, at least it doesn't seem to be so. i was let on very easily. if it really is a private website, i will leave immediately.
    Originally posted by Miss OpenMinded View Post
    to James Hutchins-
    im sorry if you felt that way. i in no way was trying to make you feel attacked. I was just merely trying to say that i think people should respect everybody's opions; just as i respect yours i would hope you could do the same and respect mine. I didn't mean for it to come out any differently.
    Please read the excerpts above.
    Please note, 'trying' to do something means you did not succeed, which I appreciate you realized.
    But the point is, you have been mean and spreading cruel words. No one did anything to you. You came her and started belittling people you do not know. I may be a man, but I also have feelings.

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  • James Hutchins
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    Re: God HATES Rational Thinking!

    Originally posted by Miss OpenMinded View Post
    no im serious! i really don't understand! i know you can't see me or hear my voice but i wrote exactly how i felt as nice as possible and meant no disrespect by it. even when i tried to bow out and just admit that i was getting nowhere people came back at me trying to get me to argue with them. I'm really curious as to how im being impolite....
    How am I trying to get you to argue? I expressed my feelings. I'm sorry, it will not happen again.

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  • Miss OpenMinded
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    Re: God HATES Rational Thinking!

    to James Hutchins-
    im sorry if you felt that way. i in no way was trying to make you feel attacked. I was just merely trying to say that i think people should respect everybody's opions; just as i respect yours i would hope you could do the same and respect mine. I didn't mean for it to come out any differently.

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