[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Banned? Banned for what? Banned for stating his opinion in the face of obvious ignorance?

No. Banned for joining a Christian church's private discussion forum, uninvited and unwelcome, and mocking the name of Jesus . . .

If you twist Our Lord and Saviour Jebus Christo's ...


Good night and Dog bless.

Just like you. I expect you will be leaving us soon, as well.

Piss off, troll.

Agreed. The Bible says that God created us all, and that we are all His children.

Chapter and verse, please.

If God loves all of His children then He must love homosexuals and bisexuals (like myself.)

Very nice logical fallacy, there.

It's a straw man argument. You are using a baseless and obviously false assumption (God loves all of His children) to support your assertion (God loves abominations like you).

Let's examine this logically.

The Bible tells us that the dead are unknowing (Ecclesiastes 9:5). Revelation 20-22 tells us about Judgment, when God will resurrect all the dead to immortal bodies! Then He will cast all nonbelievers and sinners of every sort into His Lake of Fire and burn them alive forever and ever.

Now, God could have chosen to leave them dead and unknowing. Instead, He tortures them for all time, for even the tiniest of sins.

Is that what you consider "love"?

What kind of a sick monster are you, anyway?

Why do I even bother arguing with the close-minded?

I ask myself the same question daily. I also wonder why the closed-minded join this forum.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

I knew that secularist education had the policy of not "imposing" arbitrary "values" such as how to read or what words mean so that the monsters it produces will vote for socialist candidates. But even the heathen evolutionist, I had thought, might be able to look at a word and type it into a search engine. An octopus can do as much!

I was wrong.

.. .. (irrelevant mumbo-jumbo) .. .. .. then: I'm a furry, I'm bisexual and have had sexual encounters with men. .. .. .. (more claptrap) .. ..
Homosexuality isn't a choice. If you think you can change that then you're even more stupid than I thought. I wish you all good luck in your search for salvation, even though I know you will never find happiness until you rid the world of everyone who disagrees with you. Have nice lives doing your religious bullcrap, I'm going to do my own thing and be happy about it.

There is even a thread Being Gay is a CHOICE: End of Discussion so you'd expect that to come up, even if nothing else did! Having abandoned God the pseudo-scientific humanist degenerates into superstition, sousing itself with liquor and abomination until there is nothing left, just as God taught us would happen. No wonder they're all sex perverts!

Hosea 4:11 Whoredom and wine and new wine take away the heart.
KJV . . . LOOK UP . . . CONTEXT

In that thread the same old non-arguments were trotted out as we're seeing here. Unsubstantiated, unattributed, wholly without merit. Before commenting the atheist should really have a look at some of their own material. I did, and posted what I found.

HERE IS THE POST

Since the pagan mind, or what's left of it, will be unlikely to follow much more than a single sentence I'll go that extra mile and post the sources. Again.

SOURCES:

journals:
• Archives of Sexual Behavior
• Archives of General Psychiatry
• Journal of Personality & Social Psychology
• Science
universities:
• Columbia University
• University of Utah
professional bodies:
• American Psychiatric Association

• people can change their “sexual orientation” from homosexual to heterosexual.
• There is no evidence at present to substantiate a biologic theory.
• there are no replicated scientific studies supporting any specific biological etiology for homosexuality.”
• Other recent developments also suggest that homosexuality is not genetically determined.
• effectively refutes the idea that homosexuality has a genetic basis.
• “This finding alone argues for the enormous importance of nongenetic factors influencing homosexuality,”
• other researchers tried to replicate his [Hamer's] study but failed.
• “We were not able to confirm evidence for an Xq28-linked locus underlying male homosexuality.”
• when another group of researchers…tried to replicate Hamer’s study, they too failed to find a genetic connection to homosexuality.
• the chain of reasoning (from biology to social policy [regarding homosexuality]), does not hold up under scrutiny.”

. . and since it'd be necessary to read on through the thread to reach that summary HERE'S A LINK TO IT

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I have no idea why any pervert would want to hang around a Church, maybe they'd like to switch the biscuits with some aphrodisiac-laced ones they'd prepared earlier? who knows. And more importantly, who cares? Aphrodisiacs do not work on Christians and we are able to identify sex-perverts from some distance. Even if you're not dressed as Donald Duck.

Galations 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
KJV . . . LOOK UP . . . CONTEXT

[Black Pinhead]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth." King James Version, (Genesis 1:28)

"Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable" (Leviticus 18:22)

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion" (Romans 1:26-27).

There's more but answer me this one question, how does a person misinterpret these two verses? There's more verses in the bible that talks against homosexuality but that would keep me all day. Not once has God deemed this 2 be okay. It's true that r God is a loving God. He loves everone and that includes homosexuals.

Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died 4 us.

Leviticus 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself: I am the Lord.

God still loves us no matter what sin we have committed. He also wants us 2 love everyone. Now, having said that, it doesn't mean that being gay is not a sin bec it is no matter how people try 2 look at it. I've heard the weak arguements that God created the gays so it must be okay. NO, IT'S NOT. That's like saying God created the child molesters, prostitutes and murders so it must be okay. GOD DIDN'T CREATE THEM. God created the pple. Homosexualality, child molesting, rapests, prostitution, those were NOT created by God.

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image. In the image of God, created he him? male and female created he them.

If homosexuality was okay in God's eyes then why did he create male and female? Why not one sex?

We were also given free will. It is r choice on what we decide. We could choose the way God wants us live or we could choose the sinful life. Just bec God created the pple and some r homosexuals, doesn't mean he created homosexuality. I'm not looking 4 a debate, I am hoping 2 raise some understanding from some of the pple on this site. Thank u.

[Didymus Much]

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...I am hoping 2 raise some understanding from some of the pple on this site. Thank u.

Then try writing in English.

[Black Pinhead]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Then try writing in English.

Then what English would that be? I only quoted scripters from the King James versain of the bible. It doesn't take a rocket scientist 2 figure out it's meaning.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Then what English would that be? I only quoted scriptures from the King James version of the bible...

"Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died 4 us."

There's no "textspeak" in the Bible, and spellcheckers are free.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

If homosexuality was okay in God's eyes then why did he create male and female? Why not one sex?

Whoa, boy! Where do you get this crazy idea from?

We were also given free will. It is r choice on what we decide. We could choose the way God wants us live or we could choose the sinful life. Just bec God created the pple and some r homosexuals, doesn't mean he created homosexuality. I'm not looking 4 a debate, I am hoping 2 raise some understanding from some of the pple on this site. Thank u.

God gave us all free will, but that's so we could choose between Him and satan. Just because choices exist, it doesn't follow that all choices are approved of. He doesn't want us to choose to be queer or atheists or a witch, to name but a few.

How old are you, 12? Have you posted an introduction yet?

[Black Pinhead]

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No. I'm not 12. I am an adult.

[Black Pinhead]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Then try writing in English.

No. Not my ememy. I read that verse in the bible 2. The best thing about the bible is that it's filled with truths and no lies.

[Black Pinhead]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Hey everyone listen up. No matter how I feel about the gay life style being of choice and not something you're born with, I personally DO NOT hate gays!!! My personal opinion is this, if a person is gay, how is it hurting me? I could care less. That's right, I said it. Not my problem if they're gay. I have a sister and a cousin who's gay. Now, having said that, I'd like to point out another issue that is more important than this one, there is a person on this site who professes to be a TRUE Christain yet he puts people down and if their opinion differ from his own, he tells them that they are unwelcome and unwanted. Tell me, is that the way a true Christain is supposed to behave. He also told another member to "Piss off troll." I was called a text tard for using internet lango in my introduction. I admitted to liking Halloween and horror movies. Okay, loving but I also listed Supernatural as my favorite show and so on. I also said in it that I don't read my bible every day. Sorry that I'm not perfect but this person has accused me of hating Jesus and he said that I am unwelcome and unwanted simply because I admitted that I am not perfect. I go to church on Sundays and they know all about me because I was up front and honest with them and they have never treated me so cruelly, this person is also predjudice and judgemental against anyone who isn't like him. A true Christain is supposed to be passionate not condemning. If a person reads their bible, he would know how a true Christain should behave not name calling like a grade school child. Everyone here is entitled to their own opinion and should not be verbally slammed up against the wall over it.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Thank you for posting in coherent English, but:

...Everyone here is entitled to their own opinion and should not be verbally slammed up against the wall over it.

This forum is about the King James Bible, not your opinion.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Hey everyone listen up. No matter how I feel about the gay life style being of choice and not something you're born with, I personally DO NOT hate gays!!! My personal opinion is this, if a person is gay, how is it hurting me? I could care less. That's right, I said it. Not my problem if they're gay. I have a sister and a cousin who's gay. Now, having said that, I'd like to point out another issue that is more important than this one, there is a person on this site who professes to be a TRUE Christain yet he puts people down and if their opinion differ from his own, he tells them that they are unwelcome and unwanted. Tell me, is that the way a true Christain is supposed to behave. He also told another member to "Piss off troll." I was called a text tard for using internet lango in my introduction. I admitted to liking Halloween and horror movies. Okay, loving but I also listed Supernatural as my favorite show and so on. I also said in it that I don't read my bible every day. Sorry that I'm not perfect but this person has accused me of hating Jesus and he said that I am unwelcome and unwanted simply because I admitted that I am not perfect. I go to church on Sundays and they know all about me because I was up front and honest with them and they have never treated me so cruelly, this person is also predjudice and judgemental against anyone who isn't like him. A true Christain is supposed to be passionate not condemning. If a person reads their bible, he would know how a true Christain should behave not name calling like a grade school child. Everyone here is entitled to their own opinion and should not be verbally slammed up against the wall over it.

tl;dr

Your unsaved opinions about queers is not important. The real question is: What does GOD think?

Lev.18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Lev.20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Rom.1:26-27
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

It might also interest you to know that according to the Holy Bible, homers (those "without natural affection") and their supporters (those "that have pleasure in them") are "worthy of death."

Romans 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Defend the queers; Go to hell right along with them.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

(then) I admitted to liking Halloween

See where I stopped reading [I put a red arrow]? Halloween is a celebration of SATAN and all participants are necessarily demon possessed. If you thought it was anything innocent you wouldn't feel the need to "admit" you enjoy it. When you start reading The Bible instead of deciding what sort of god you'd like to serve [we already know the answer because of the demons you choose to worship and to whom you are in bondage right now] and then just making up interpretations of Scripture to suit your fancy - why not flick through the Tibetan book of the dead or the analects of Confucius and see if there's anything in there you can twist in side your head to "prove" you're "right"?

Since what you believe is not what The Bible teaches, why even pretend to follow The Bible at all?

[Loyal To God]

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Amen brother. I have to beat them off with a stick sometimes! Just because I was Blessed by God with the same blond hair and blue eyes as Jesus, and just because I swim 5 miles a day to main a rock hard body and endless stamina, that doesn't mean that I am willing to commit sodomy with them!

Yikes. One time a woman grabbed my rear end and squeezed it and it was intentional so I turn around so fast and slapped her across the face. Normally, I am not a violent person but I felt that this was in self defense. She threatened to call the cops for me comitting a hate crime if I didn't apologize to her so I told her to go ahead, I will get her for sexual harrassment. Needless to say, she called the police and as I was talking to a police officer, I told him what she had done and my reaction to it, I also told him that I'd like to press charges on her for sexual harrassment and he said that if I did that, he would have to arrest both of us, her for sexual harrassment and me for comitting a hate crime. He also told me that a hate crime would get me more jail time than a sexual harrassment charge. One of my Christain friends told him that if that were to happen, they would get our church and lawyer involved and I will end up suing her for sexual harrassment and have his badge for wrongful arrest since I did not create a hate crime, it was self defense and the fact that I was attacked in public like that as well as being humilated at the same time and some would also state that what she did constitutes as attempted rape and it will all go public. Luckily, the lesbian that grabbed my rear end, was the first one to drop the charges before they were even pressed. I only wish that she would have gotten arrested. This happened four years ago but to me it was quite a traumatizing and humiliating experience.

[Jordon_za]

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You know, I've been thinking. All these heathens tells tall tales about the so-called "gay-gene". Even though it pleases my good heart knowing that people who believe that garbage is going to burn in hell, I thought something to myself:

If there really was a gay-gene in some kind of satan-run fantasy land, it would spell out the end of all homosexuals. Hear me out.

If homosexuality was genetic, then obviously it would get passed on from generation to generation by a gay man who is in the closet and got married to a woman, fathering hell-bound children. But these days, homosexuality has gotten more and more accepted in society. This means that in general, homosexual devil-worshippers no longer remain in the closet and immediately go for other men, thus not reproducing. Taking that into account, if homosexuals no longer reproduce and the gay gene is real, then in about two or three generation's time there would be no more evil satan-worshipping homosexuals.

Glory be to Jesus.