[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I'm not at liberty to give away too many details, but by mutual agreement between Fr. Martin and the diocese, he may relocate to another diocese where his particular spiritual gifts may be more needed.

So how many altar boys did he rape?

[Marlaina]

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Yes, it is extremely ignorant, and it exposes you for the fool and liar that you are.

Are you even remotely familiar with the Holy Bible?

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

You got me on that one, EXCEPT..... you missed the second half. The antichrist is the one that denieth the Father and the Son. Does the Pope deny the Father and the Son? Do I deny the Father and the Son? Does Officer Martin deny the Father and the Son?

I think not. Therefore we are NOT they antichrist.

My brother is agnostic. He denies the Father and the son he COULD be the antichrist, but not me.

[Marlaina]

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Let me get this straight. You're claiming the fact that, in 26 years, Pimp John Paul Ringo II was never right about anything proves how great he was?




I'm praying for you, and there's a chance God will actually listen to me, since I'm not an idol-worshipper. How cool is that?


Wait, you mean that one of you two is actually straight? Who knew, eh? Who would've thought it?

It is ironic that you use the name Brother "temperance", when you cannot temper your words.

Let us look at James 3:14-18 (Excuse my non-KJV bible You may translate it for me, if you would like.) What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or Sister has nothing to wear and has no food for the day, and one of you says to them, "Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well," but you do not give them the necessities of the body, what good is it? So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead. Indeed someone might say, "You have faith and I have works." Demonstrate your faith to me without works, and I will demonstrate my faith to from my works.


This is of course not saying that faith is worthless, but that you will know who is faithful by their actions. So if we must judge people let us use this as our measurement, since faith is hard to measure because the Al Quaeda have "faith that they will die for" too. That faith is flawed, but believing in Jesus is not. JPII has written many not infallible (when I say infallible I mean infallible like the bible) books. His books are not lies simply because they are infallible. They lead Christians, and anyone who reads them, to a better understanding of morality, God, life etc. He has a book on prayer, hope, Not Being Afraid, etc, but the one I have read is the Theology of the Body. It teaches about the value of a human life and soul, and our responsibility as a society to those who are weaker than us. (The unborn, poor, elderly etc.)
He is also known for forgiving the man who shot him.

Writing and Forgiveness are two ways that JPII has inspired the world to be a better place through his actions. I try to do the same by giving money to charity, and serving my students as best I can with a loving heart and fortitude.


Holiness is trying to be like God, not because we can ever measure up, but because it honors God. We are his servants.

Would Jesus really want you calling people Pimp???? Gay????
Is that how God has called you to serve him?
Wouldn't he call you to love your enemy, and turn the other cheek? Didn't he turn the other cheek by allowing humans, like us, to crucify him? Didn't he choose not to stone the adulteress, but to forgive her and let her go forth and sin no more.

Jesus loved sinners? He made a tax collector into an Apostle.

If you continue to use slanderous angry words to convince me that you are right and I am wrong, you will only convince me more thoroughly that I am right and you are wrong. Your words are not appropriate to be used around a lady, and I would never go to a church where people are constantly using such vile words. God is love.

Marlaina

[Offcr. Albert Martin]

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It is ironic that you use the name Brother "temperance", when you cannot temper your words.

Let us look at James 3:14-18 (Excuse my non-KJV bible You may translate it for me, if you would like.) What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or Sister has nothing to wear and has no food for the day, and one of you says to them, "Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well," but you do not give them the necessities of the body, what good is it? So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead. Indeed someone might say, "You have faith and I have works." Demonstrate your faith to me without works, and I will demonstrate my faith to from my works.


This is of course not saying that faith is worthless, but that you will know who is faithful by their actions. So if we must judge people let us use this as our measurement, since faith is hard to measure because the Al Quaeda have "faith that they will die for" too. That faith is flawed, but believing in Jesus is not. JPII has written many not infallible (when I say infallible I mean infallible like the bible) books. His books are not lies simply because they are infallible. They lead Christians, and anyone who reads them, to a better understanding of morality, God, life etc. He has a book on prayer, hope, Not Being Afraid, etc, but the one I have read is the Theology of the Body. It teaches about the value of a human life and soul, and our responsibility as a society to those who are weaker than us. (The unborn, poor, elderly etc.)
He is also known for forgiving the man who shot him.

Writing and Forgiveness are two ways that JPII has inspired the world to be a better place through his actions. I try to do the same by giving money to charity, and serving my students as best I can with a loving heart and fortitude.


Holiness is trying to be like God, not because we can ever measure up, but because it honors God. We are his servants.

Would Jesus really want you calling people Pimp???? Gay????
Is that how God has called you to serve him?
Wouldn't he call you to love your enemy, and turn the other cheek? Didn't he turn the other cheek by allowing humans, like us, to crucify him? Didn't he choose not to stone the adulteress, but to forgive her and let her go forth and sin no more.

Jesus loved sinners? He made a tax collector into an Apostle.

If you continue to use slanderous angry words to convince me that you are right and I am wrong, you will only convince me more thoroughly that I am right and you are wrong. Your words are not appropriate to be used around a lady, and I would never go to a church where people are constantly using such vile words. God is love.

Marlaina

AMEN sister!

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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You got me on that one, EXCEPT..... you missed the second half. The antichrist is the one that denieth the Father and the Son. Does the Pope deny the Father and the Son? Do I deny the Father and the Son? Does Officer Martin deny the Father and the Son?

They deny the Son as explained above. They deny the Father every time they call themselves "Father," as Rast does above:

Matt. 23:9: And call no [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

[Father Peter Rast]

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So how many altar boys did he rape?

What a hateful, bigoted anti-Catholic stereotype! I would never in a million years dignify that odious question with an answer even if the diocese's lawyers let me. To whom can I lodge a complaint?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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AMEN sister!

Marlaina (strange spelling, perhaps her parents were dyslexics) is a faithful handmaiden of the anti-Christ. When she recites the dogma, why it is almost as if she has spent an entire lifetime of indoctrination by Jesuit priests. For her ability to parrot that rubbish she deserves some credit, but that credit will not be in the next life where, along with your brother’s flock she will be having the skin peeled from her for the travesties of the church of Rome.

Her cry that

This is of course not saying that faith is worthless, but that you will know who is faithful by their actions. So if we must judge people let us use this as our measurement, since faith is hard to measure

I assume your brother would reply, “God will not find it difficult.”, and she should know this.

She then goes on to defend the indefensible,

JPII has written many not infallible (when I say infallible I mean infallible like the bible) books. His books are not lies simply because they are infallible. They lead Christians,

Firstly, being an author, in itself, gives no authority. If the pope is writing outside faith and morals, he is, by your own measure, not writing with authority. Neverthelss, he writes from a catlick view and this is thus tainted by the deceptions and corruption of those teachings.

He is also known for forgiving the man who shot him.

Well, Whoopi-doo, is that Mehmet Alì Agca? The crime was committed in 1981 and Agca was released in 2000 – He served longer than a normal criminal would served for murder in Italy. If I remember he was then extradited to Turkey to face further charges of murder. Of course, a True Christian would have turned the other cheek as Our Lord said and dropped all charges. Why does this remind me of the compassion of the catlick church at the time of the inquisition, where the church merely averted its gaze from the horror.

Would Jesus really want you calling people Pimp???? Gay????

1Th:2:4: But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts.

If you continue to use slanderous angry words to convince me that you are right and I am wrong, you will only convince me more thoroughly that I am right and you are wrong.

Are those the words of an open-minded woman, or of someone who would deny Christ for the sake of the tone of the message? Is that a woman filled with pride, a haughty woman who will not change her ways?

Martin Brothers, look what you have turned out - well done! A real, live, unthinking zealot – not a Christian, but a fervent believer in the Mother of Whoredoms. M't:23:5: But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,

Come on brothers Martin! Yet there is time to rejoice, the doors of Landover stand open and welcoming – will you not come and join us on the glorious journey to Heaven?

[Little Timmy Martin]

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Of course he isn't yours. You're not a Martin!

And HE IS NOT MINE EITHER...Who is in charge of paternity tests over here?

DAD! Is that really you? Where is Uncle Tom?

Why are you denying me? Why did you stop sending child support Dad? Mom really needs it and has been having a very hard time and IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!

Why did you leave Dad? Why Don't you love me anymore? Is it because I wet the bed? I promise I won't do it again. Just PLEASE come back Dad! Please!

(when you do come back bring Uncle Tom with you. We are supposed but some q-tips in your mouth for something Mom says)

I still love you Dad even though you left me.

[Marlaina]

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They deny the Son as explained above. They deny the Father every time they call themselves "Father," as Rast does above:

Matt. 23:9: And call no [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

I need another example, please.
(Just because I call my birth father, "father" does not mean I misunderstand who God is, and how he is all powerful, or that he is the Father of all mankind. The Trinity is not distorted by your example)

The trinity is the core of what makes someone Christian or not. That is why I am Christian and the antichrist is not.

Marlaina

[Marlaina]

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[quote=Ezekiel Bathfire;169747]Marlaina (strange spelling, perhaps her parents were dyslexics) is a faithful handmaiden of the anti-Christ. When she recites the dogma, why it is almost as if she has spent an entire lifetime of indoctrination by Jesuit priests. For her ability to parrot that rubbish she deserves some credit, but that credit will not be in the next life where, along with your brother’s flock she will be having the skin peeled from her for the travesties of the church of Rome.


I love this quote. It made me laugh. I was taught by evangelicals and Catholics 50/50.

My name is spelled genealogically, not morphologically.


Her cry that I assume your brother would reply, “God will not find it difficult.”, and she should know this.

She then goes on to defend the indefensible, Firstly, being an author, in itself, gives no authority. If the pope is writing outside faith and morals, he is, by your own measure, not writing with authority. Neverthelss, he writes from a catlick view and this is thus tainted by the deceptions and corruption of those teachings.

Listen carefully, you are making generalizations about the Papacy. I am taking information about Popes that I am knowledgeable about and explaining that your generalizations are in fact generalizations. Just because a FEW popes were into gambling and women does not make JPII the antichrist nor does it mean he was leading the Catholic Church astray.

Marlaina

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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Listen carefully, you are making generalizations about the Papacy. I am taking information about Popes that I am knowledgeable about and explaining that your generalizations are in fact generalizations. Just because a FEW popes were into gambling and women does not make JPII the antichrist nor does it mean he was leading the Catholic Church astray. Marlaina

The position of pope is an office - the office is always filled - one cannot generalize about an office - the office is there. Its incumbent may change but the office remains the same - it is the pope (whoever he is) who is the antichrist.

First there is the video. This is not a Baptist production and I feel that it is flawed in one or two of its suggestions, yet, it gives the idea.

Next you have already been told of the command by God not to call anyone father other than God. Yet what does “pope” mean? The word itself means “Father”. You can joke as to whether you should call your genetic father, “father” but, whatever else you believe, someone who is not your father should not be called that. Yet the church of Rome’s hierarchy all insist you call them “father” in direct contravention to Christ’s word.

Let us look to see what Timothy said about the hierarchy of the church which Christ intended,

1Tm:3:1: This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
1Tm:3:2: A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
1Tm:3:3: Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
1Tm:3:4: One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
1Tm:3:5: (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

How many catlick bishops have a wife? None. How many have children? We don’t know. Why does the church of Rome disobey the word of God? I suggest it is not bothered what Christ said or did.

Christ says Salvation is through Him. The catlick church says that it can be through works – Hindus, Buddhists, Moslems may all enter Heaven.

What then was the point of Christ’s sacrifice? Who then other than the antichrist would deny this sacrifice?

The evidence towards the pope being the antichrist is laid out in books, on the internet and at good protestant churches throughout the world.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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I need another example, please.
(Just because I call my birth father, "father" does not mean I misunderstand who God is, and how he is all powerful, or that he is the Father of all mankind. The Trinity is not distorted by your example)

The more I read the blatherings from the defenders of Mother Rome, the more I'm convinced that something in the death cookies and sacramental wine impairs their reading comprehension. I didn't say anything about what you call your male parent; I talked about the papist priests, like Rast, who want you to address them by the title Father (unless, of course, Rast or another papist fish head is your biological male parent, in which case I really don't need the details).

The trinity is the core of what makes someone Christian or not.

I agree completely, and there's no room in the Trinity for a "Blessed Virgin" goddess based loosely on Mary and closely on Semiramis.

[One-eyed Jack]

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Marliana: "Just because a FEW popes were into gambling and women..."

Why, my dear, I do love your subtle way with words. Just because a FEW pillars of a bridge are corrupt, weak, and rotten doesn't mean that the whole bridge is unsafe...WAIT! Yes it does.

As your careful words demonstrate, the Catholic cult is spiritually unsound as a bridge with rotten supports.

And as you said (with beautifully understated irony) not once in his tenure as Pope did John-Paul demonstrate infallibility.

(Actually, no Pope has convincingly demonstrated that -- although some have been satanically clever.)

As to the rest, I can only applaud Brother Bathfire. He has convincingly demonstrated that Jesus never intended to found a Papacy, and that the Catholic Church is unbiblical to the core. Bravo, Brother Bathfire!

~~ OEJ

[Marlaina]

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The position of pope is an office - the office is always filled - one cannot generalize about an office - the office is there. Its incumbent may change but the office remains the same - it is the pope (whoever he is) who is the antichrist.

First there is the video. This is not a Baptist production and I feel that it is flawed in one or two of its suggestions, yet, it gives the idea.


Let us look to see what Timothy said about the hierarchy of the church which Christ intended,

1Tm:3:1: This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
1Tm:3:2: A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
1Tm:3:3: Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
1Tm:3:4: One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
1Tm:3:5: (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

How many catlick bishops have a wife? None. How many have children? We don’t know. Why does the church of Rome disobey the word of God? I suggest it is not bothered what Christ said or did.

Christ says Salvation is through Him. The catlick church says that it can be through works – Hindus, Buddhists, Moslems may all enter Heaven.

What then was the point of Christ’s sacrifice? Who then other than the antichrist would deny this sacrifice?

The evidence towards the pope being the antichrist is laid out in books, on the internet and at good protestant churches throughout the world.

The Catholic Church does not say that salvation is through works. Read James again. I will DEMONSTRATE my faith to you FROM my works. Salvation is from faith in Jesus......

Your movie gives 11 prophecies, but none of them had the word Antichrist; therefore I am unsure that the beast and the Antichrist are one in the same, nevertheless, I found your movie disturbing, and I will bow out to the wisdom of the other Catholic members of this group to explain Revelations and the error of your movie......... I admit to being unknowledgeable in this area......

The Catholic Church DOES NOT DENY the sacrifice!!! I believe in Jesus's sacrifice, and so does my Church. Jesus died for my sins and without that, I am truly dead. Without that, there is NO forgiveness of sins, Church or no Church. Period. No exceptions....


Marlaina

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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And married bishops?