In the Fight Against Sin, Is There a Place for Flogging

[Johny Joe Hold]

I see flogging is still practiced in some countries. It is done against Christians in the Sudan.

Since we have not yet prevailed against sin, I wonder if the time may be right for some new approach. Of course, it's actually an old approach, and there was less sin in the past when people were flogged.

Perhaps the court system would not allow it so we True Christians™ would need to process convictions and sentences. Our pastors would be the right people for this.

Sudanese couple face flogging over conversion to Christianity | World News (christianpost.com)

[handmaiden]

Re: In the Fight Against Sin, Is There a Place for Flogging

Oh, my! This is just awful! And it only proves how dangerous and repressive Muslims truly are. We must do everything we can to keep them out of this country and punish them if necessary for flouting our Christian values.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: In the Fight Against Sin, Is There a Place for Flogging

Oh, my! This is just awful!

I wonder how we could match the sin with the numbers of flogs? It know I have my thoughts as to which sins Jesus hates the most and I think those deserve to most punishment. But, I'd like more discussion.

Also, is it a given atheists would be subject to flogging?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: In the Fight Against Sin, Is There a Place for Flogging

A complex question Mr Mayor: It depends on what the crime is, and who does it but a Muslim beating a Christian cannot be right, can it? Nobody can argue with beating someone of your own kind. I remember my grandfather’s plantation. He never beat anyone - except his children and wife – he had a Darkie overseer do that, and everyone understood.

A beating makes sense to some of the criminal classes who deal in violence and, as Jesus was scourged, I can see no harm in it. If it puts someone on the straight and narrow, then a soul is saved and so are our taxes.

The take away here is, if you want to pay less in tax, introduce flogging.

[handmaiden]

Re: In the Fight Against Sin, Is There a Place for Flogging

A complex question Mr Mayor: It depends on what the crime is. . . The take away here is, if you want to pay less in tax, introduce flogging.

This makes so much sense. Solitary confinement is often used in prisons, but setting up a criminal in his own private accommodation costs money. Plus, it can take varying amounts of time to see useful results. Flogging produces immediate effects and is very cost effective, particularly as others can see the punishment being meted out in real time and learn the value of compliance.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: In the Fight Against Sin, Is There a Place for Flogging

Flogging is definitely endorsed in The Bible. It doesn't simply fail to condemn flogging but specifies it as an important part of discipline.

This is just awful! And it only proves how dangerous and repressive Muslims truly are.

True Christians are not like that, pretending The Bible doesn't say what it obviously does say. Muslims are always claiming their book says such and such, which in a sense it does, but immediately afterwards and often in the same verse—they only quote half of it—goes on to say something else. For example they'll lie to me (it's not "lying" because I'm "an infidel" they tell themselves) how in the book it says that to kill one human being is as if you kill all mankind. Well, I've looked it up and yes, it does say that BUT and it's a biggie

BUT in the very next verse [5:33] which they must know because anywhere this creed is the law of the land they actually do it, it goes on to say that I should be chopped up or expelled to an awful doom. Why? That's explained later on: I am the vilest of creatures. Now to be the very worst of created beings [98:6] I have some pretty serious competition. Paralysis tick springs to mind. Worse than a paralysis tick? Koran says yes. What about parasitic eyeball worms? Koran says yes, worse than that. The meningitis brain amoeba is a created being – how do I compare to that? Worse. It doesn't matter what you come up with, because I have read the book and disbelieve whether or not I'm a corruption in the land, I fall into the category of "the worst of created beings" or "the vilest.." depending on translation. WORST means that everything else is LESS WORSE (or less vile) and there's plenty of statements in there to that effect.

I know what the koran says because I've read it. When it is misquoted or used deceptively, I know that's what's happening. The fact that deceiving me isn't lying because I'm an infidel doesn't mean anything to me. It's lying and it's deliberate. And unlike Paul in Athens, who preached The Truth, the unreliability of this other message which is quite different from The Gospel, contains no truth at all.

[handmaiden]

Re: In the Fight Against Sin, Is There a Place for Flogging

I know what the koran says because I've read it. When it is misquoted or used deceptively, I know that's what's happening. The fact that deceiving me isn't lying because I'm an infidel doesn't mean anything to me. It's lying and it's deliberate. And unlike Paul in Athens, who preached The Truth, the unreliability of this other message which is quite different from The Gospel, contains no truth at all.

Ultimately, that is the crux of this and all issues. What is Truth(tm). It's the Bible, of course. Christians know this and therefore we know best and should be the deciders for everyone else.