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  • Pastor Ezekiel
    Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
     
    • Sep 2006
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    Oral U May Go Down

    Well, sad news tonight Brothers and sisters. That fine institution, Oral University, is being mercilessly attacked by niggardly penny-pinching joos. It is a sad commentary on the times we live in, that a good Christian Pastor cannot buy a car for his new daughter without being harassed about it by nosey parker auditors.

    Scandal brewing at Oral Roberts U.

    TULSA, Okla. - Twenty years ago, televangelist Oral Roberts said he was reading a spy novel when God appeared to him and told him to raise $8 million for Roberts' university, or else he would be "called home."

    Now, his son, Oral Roberts University President Richard Roberts, says God is speaking again, telling him to deny lurid allegations in a lawsuit that threatens to engulf this 44-year-old Bible Belt college in scandal.

    Richard Roberts is accused of illegal involvement in a local political campaign and lavish spending at donors' expense, including numerous home remodeling projects, use of the university jet for his daughter's senior trip to the Bahamas, and a red Mercedes convertible and a Lexus SUV for his wife, Lindsay.

    She is accused of dropping tens of thousands of dollars on clothes, awarding nonacademic scholarships to friends of her children and sending scores of text messages on university-issued cell phones to people described in the lawsuit as "underage males."

    At a chapel service this week on the 5,300-student campus known for its 60-foot-tall bronze sculpture of praying hands, Roberts said God told him: "We live in a litigious society. Anyone can get mad and file a lawsuit against another person whether they have a legitimate case or not. This lawsuit ... is about intimidation, blackmail and extortion."

    San Antonio televangelist John Hagee, a member of the ORU board of regents, said the university's executive board "is conducting a full and thorough investigation."

    Colleagues fear for the reputation of the university and the future of the Roberts' ministry, which grew from Southern tent revivals to one of the most successful evangelical empires in the country, hauling in tens of millions of dollars in contributions a year. The university reported nearly $76 million in revenue in 2005, according to the IRS.

    Oral Roberts is 89 and lives in California. He holds the title of chancellor, but the university describes him as semi-retired, and his son presides over day-to-day operations on the campus, which had a modern, space-age design when it was built in the early 1960s but now looks dated, like Disney's Tomorrowland.

    Cornell Cross II, a senior from Burlington, Vt., said he is looking to transfer to another school because the scandal has "severely devalued and hurt the reputation of my degree."

    "We have asked and asked and asked to see the finances of our school and what they're doing with our money, and we've been told no," said, Cross who is majoring in government. "Now we know why. As a student, I'm not going to stand for it any longer."

    The allegations are contained in a lawsuit filed Tuesday by three former professors. They sued ORU and Roberts, alleging they were wrongfully dismissed after reporting the school's involvement in a local political race.

    Richard Roberts, according to the suit, asked a professor in 2005 to use his students and university resources to aid a county commissioner's bid for Tulsa mayor. Such involvement would violate state and federal law because of the university's nonprofit status. Up to 50 students are alleged to have worked on the campaign.

    The professors also said their dismissals came after they turned over to the board of regents a copy of a report documenting moral and ethical lapses on the part of Roberts and his family. The internal document was prepared by Stephanie Cantese, Richard Roberts' sister-in-law, according to the lawsuit.

    An ORU student repairing Cantese's laptop discovered the document and later provided a copy to one of the professors.

    It details dozens of alleged instances of misconduct. Among them:

    • A longtime maintenance employee was fired so that an underage male friend of Mrs. Roberts could have his position.

    • Mrs. Roberts — who is a member of the board of regents and is referred to as ORU's "first lady" on the university's Web site — frequently had cell-phone bills of more than $800 per month, with hundreds of text messages sent between 1 a.m. to 3 a.m. to "underage males who had been provided phones at university expense."

    • The university jet was used to take one daughter and several friends on a senior trip to Orlando, Fla., and the Bahamas. The $29,411 trip was billed to the ministry as an "evangelistic function of the president."

    • Mrs. Roberts spent more than $39,000 at one Chico's clothing store alone in less than a year, and had other accounts in Texas and California. She also repeatedly said, "As long as I wear it once on TV, we can charge it off." The document cites inconsistencies in clothing purchases and actual usage on TV.

    • Mrs. Roberts was given a white Lexus SUV and a red Mercedes convertible by ministry donors.

    • University and ministry employees are regularly summoned to the Roberts' home to do the daughters' homework.

    • The university and ministry maintain a stable of horses for exclusive use by the Roberts' children.

    • The Roberts' home has been remodeled 11 times in the past 14 years.
    I don't see what they're complaining about. How does any of this effect the quality of a degree from this fine Christian University? And who's business is it if the Oral family keeps a few ponies for the kids to ride?
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

    Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!
  • Old Man Hatchet
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    • Sep 2006
    • 2084

    #2
    Re: Oral U May Go Down

    • A longtime maintenance employee was fired so that an underage male friend of Mrs. Roberts could have his position.

    • Mrs. Roberts — who is a member of the board of regents and is referred to as ORU's "first lady" on the university's Web site — frequently had cell-phone bills of more than $800 per month, with hundreds of text messages sent between 1 a.m. to 3 a.m. to "underage males who had been provided phones at university expense."

    • The university jet was used to take one daughter and several friends on a senior trip to Orlando, Fla., and the Bahamas. The $29,411 trip was billed to the ministry as an "evangelistic function of the president."

    • Mrs. Roberts spent more than $39,000 at one Chico's clothing store alone in less than a year, and had other accounts in Texas and California. She also repeatedly said, "As long as I wear it once on TV, we can charge it off." The document cites inconsistencies in clothing purchases and actual usage on TV.

    • Mrs. Roberts was given a white Lexus SUV and a red Mercedes convertible by ministry donors.

    • University and ministry employees are regularly summoned to the Roberts' home to do the daughters' homework.

    • The university and ministry maintain a stable of horses for exclusive use by the Roberts' children.

    • The Roberts' home has been remodeled 11 times in the past 14 years.
    I have read this list three times now and still cannot find anything that is awry. $800 a month for a cell phone, $29,411 for a senior trip, $39,000 on clothes...these are all modest figures. Is the Roberts family expected to live in squalor? I've spent $14,000 on sock garters so far this year. I think that's a small price to pay for firmly suspended socks. This lawsuit is preposterous and does not take into account what people must do to survive in the real world.

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    • Talitha
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      • Apr 2026
      • 15118

      #3
      Re: Oral U May Go Down

      I once had some lessons in Oral but sadly they never let me have a Degree.
      The Senior Lecturer told me that after-hours Tuition was merely to "help" in passing my other subjects.

      Praise Jesus he was right

      Sister Talitha

      Markswoman, Circumcisionist, Platinum Tither.


      HE took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha Cumi; which is,
      being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise!...Mark 5:41



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      • Bobby-Joe
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        • Sep 2006
        • 18405

        #4
        Re: Oral U May Go Down

        I think these allegations are Oral University are just too much to swallow. I am sure with Jesus' help Brother Roberts will spit back this spew from these three false Christian professors.

        You'd think Brother Robert would have quoted Jesus on this one though

        Luke 11:46 And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.

        Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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        • Seeker
          Thank you Pastor Pistle!
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          • Aug 2007
          • 966

          #5
          Re: Oral U May Go Down

          Not sure why you all want to defend him. He is a word of faith preacher teacher that would go against LBC teachings. I would think.

          He is satan in a sheeps clothing. Yeah!

          If the Lord leads you to it, he will get you through it.

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          • Pastor Ezekiel
            Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
             
            • Sep 2006
            • 78556

            #6
            Re: Oral U May Go Down

            Originally posted by Seeker View Post
            Not sure why you all want to defend him. He is a word of faith preacher teacher that would go against LBC teachings. I would think.

            He is satan in a sheeps clothing. Yeah!
            Would you mind explaining in detail exactly why you say that? I what ways do we part ways with Oral?
            Who Will Jesus Damn?

            Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

            Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

            Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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            • Bobby-Joe
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              • Sep 2006
              • 18405

              #7
              Re: Oral U May Go Down

              Originally posted by Seeker View Post
              Not sure why you all want to defend him. He is a word of faith preacher teacher that would go against LBC teachings. I would think.

              He is satan in a sheeps clothing. Yeah!
              Jesus talks to Brother Oral. What problem do you have with that?

              Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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              • Glendora Christianson
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                • Sep 2006
                • 2329

                #8
                Re: Oral U May Go Down

                Once again, the TRASH of our SEXULAR society has the misconception that spiritually superior folks should be humble and poor . . . let me assure everone that our Lord Jesus Christ makes folks rich because they deserve to be rich and poor because HE HATES THEM! I only hope Mrs. Roberts' white Lexus SUV is the newer version with the 3.5 liter V6 and not the 2006 with the 3.3 liter V6 . . . perhaps we should take up a collection?

                PS (mental note: order cell phones with unlimited text messaging for our very heterosexual young men at LBC)
                Jesus - gentle, dependable overnight relief.

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                • Pastor Isaac Peters
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                  • Sep 2006
                  • 10639

                  #9
                  Re: Oral U May Go Down

                  Originally posted by Glendora Christianson View Post
                  Once again, the TRASH of our SEXULAR society has the misconception that spiritually superior folks should be humble and poor . . . let me assure everone that our Lord Jesus Christ makes folks rich because they deserve to be rich and poor because HE HATES THEM! I only hope Mrs. Roberts' white Lexus SUV is the newer version with the 3.5 liter V6 and not the 2006 with the 3.3 liter V6 . . . perhaps we should take up a collection?
                  Indeed, Mother Glynndie. Their prosperity is a sign that they are doing what the Lord wants:

                  Deut. 29:9: Keep therefore the words of this covenant, and do them, that ye may prosper in all that ye do.

                  Besides, the Lexus with the bigger engine would show that Mrs. Roberts sides with Jesus against the environazis and their myths of "global warming" and "peak oil."
                  This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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                  • Seeker
                    Thank you Pastor Pistle!
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                    • Aug 2007
                    • 966

                    #10
                    Re: Oral U May Go Down

                    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                    Would you mind explaining in detail exactly why you say that? I what ways do we part ways with Oral?
                    Okay my bad. I just thought LBC did better with their tithes(and ministry) than this. After all this is a true church.....right?

                    If the Lord leads you to it, he will get you through it.

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                    • Bobby-Joe
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                      • Sep 2006
                      • 18405

                      #11
                      Re: Oral U May Go Down

                      Originally posted by Seeker View Post
                      Okay my bad. I just thought LBC did better with their tithes(and ministry) than this. After all this is a true church.....right?
                      How would you know atheist?

                      Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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                      • Seeker
                        Thank you Pastor Pistle!
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                        • Aug 2007
                        • 966

                        #12
                        Re: Oral U May Go Down

                        Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post
                        How would you know atheist?
                        Really? Are you trying to provide a link or are you calling me an atheist. Atheist I am farrr from! Thanks, Can you please explain? I am not understanding your post.

                        If the Lord leads you to it, he will get you through it.

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                        • Bobby-Joe
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                          • Sep 2006
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                          #13
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                          Originally posted by Seeker View Post
                          Really? Are you trying to provide a link or are you calling me an atheist. Atheist I am farrr from! Thanks, Can you please explain? I am not understanding your post.
                          You treat religion like it is a joke, that just screams God hating atheist. You may feel like one of the "smart kids" all smug and anonymous behind you computer in some left coast state but Jesus sees you!

                          Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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                          • WilliamJenningsBryan
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                            • Jan 2007
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                            #14
                            Re: Oral U May Go Down

                            Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post
                            I think these allegations are Oral University are just too much to swallow. I am sure with Jesus' help Brother Roberts will spit back this spew from these three false Christian professors.

                            You'd think Brother Robert would have quoted Jesus on this one though
                            I think your suspicions are probably well founded, Brother BJ. I too sense there are some sinister forces on the inside that are trying to bring Brother Oral down, something like the "Deep Throat" in the Watergate scandal.
                            Hell's foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
                            brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.
                            ...and get off my lawn
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                            • Star Finder
                              Rock Worshipper
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 1092

                              #15
                              Re: Oral U May Go Down

                              Its clear that these people should be arrested, shipped to Africa, and sold into slavery.

                              That would be an easy life for them! They might learn the most important lesson in life:

                              "Don't question the BOSS!"

                              sort of like your little god-scam.....

                              rocks on the other hand are frugal and steadfast.
                              I am on the adventure of a lifetime! This is even better than the time I used the plastic stones!

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