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  • Thorjohn
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    • Feb 2011
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    #121
    Re: Your Opinion: The Worst United States President Ever

    Originally posted by Halleluyah Rob View Post
    Fortunately Bush was able to turn it around, and revert America back to it's natural state of God-fearing spiritual bliss. Now we have Obama trying to tear apart the beauty bestowed by Bush; which is why we must prevent his re-election at all costs.


    Whether you like it or not, your country is going down the drain. Has been for many years. Thanks to Papa & Baby Bush, specially the Baby-one, among many others, including Ronald Reagan.

    But then again - when have your country had the fortune of voting the better candidate into office? Sure, sometimes, but that´s rare...

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    • Thorjohn
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      #122
      Re: Your Opinion: The Worst United States President Ever

      And Baby Bush should really not be counted as a president, since he wasn´t elected into office - rather sentenced to serve 4 years in the White house, by the US Supreme Court.

      To me he´ll always be Governor Bush, since that the last office he was elected to...

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      • Bobby-Joe
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        #123
        Re: Your Opinion: The Worst United States President Ever

        Originally posted by Thorjohn View Post
        And Baby Bush should really not be counted as a president, since he wasn´t elected into office - rather sentenced to serve 4 years in the White house, by the US Supreme Court.

        To me he´ll always be Governor Bush, since that the last office he was elected to...
        Perhaps you heard of the 2004 Presidential Election?

        And if Bush was selected by Christ, using the Supreme Court, so what? He won, get over it. One Savior, one Vote, that is the cornerstone of our Democracy.

        Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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        • Thorjohn
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          #124
          Re: Your Opinion: The Worst United States President Ever

          Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post
          Perhaps you heard of the 2004 Presidential Election?

          And if Bush was selected by Christ, using the Supreme Court, so what? He won, get over it. One Savior, one Vote, that is the cornerstone of our Democracy.
          Do you know what democracy is? What I´ve seen on this forum isn´t any democracy loving people, you´d like theocracy more, wouldn´t you? So you´d be a little bit more like Iran and Saudi Arabia...

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          • Thorjohn
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            • Feb 2011
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            #125
            Re: Your Opinion: The Worst United States President Ever

            Regarding the 2004 election: Since the incumbent was illegally in office, the election as a whole were illegal and meant nothing...

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            • Bobby-Joe
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              #126
              Re: Your Opinion: The Worst United States President Ever

              Originally posted by Thorjohn View Post
              Do you know what democracy is? What I´ve seen on this forum isn´t any democracy loving people, you´d like theocracy more, wouldn´t you? So you´d be a little bit more like Iran and Saudi Arabia...
              Where do get the insane idea we want to establish Sharia Law here in the US? That is the Atheist (as in secret Muslims) agenda.

              All we good and TRUE Christians want to do is reclaim America for the kind of Republic the Founding Fathers wanted under our Unchanging and Eternal Constitution! Does living in America of 1890 sound like Theocracy to you????

              Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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              • WWJDnow
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                #127
                Re: Your Opinion: The Worst United States President Ever

                Originally posted by Thorjohn View Post
                Do you know what democracy is? What I´ve seen on this forum isn´t any democracy loving people
                Of course we love democracy. That's why we hate judge made laws that prohibit abortion in states that have banned that evil practice. Anyway, God gets to vote, too, and surely the majority would not want to vote contrary to God's wishes. So democracy needs some guidance, lest it lapse into godless Jewish communism.

                you´d like theocracy more, wouldn´t you?
                Well, we do look with longing on the administration of George W. Bush as one of the high points in American history. He was an awesome President because God spoke directly to him.

                So you´d be a little bit more like Iran and Saudi Arabia...
                Not at all. To give one example, those backwards barbarians behead adulteresses, when the Bible clearly says that they should be killed by stoning. Surely you agree with us that beheading adulteresses is wrong, don't you?
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                • Thorjohn
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                  #128
                  Re: Your Opinion: The Worst United States President Ever

                  Originally posted by WWJDnow View Post
                  Well, we do look with longing on the administration of George W. Bush as one of the high points in American history. He was an awesome President because God spoke directly to him.

                  Not at all. To give one example, those backwards barbarians behead adulteresses, when the Bible clearly says that they should be killed by stoning. Surely you agree with us that beheading adulteresses is wrong, don't you?
                  You really belive God spoke to him, don´t you?


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                  • Rev. Jim Osborne
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                    #129
                    Re: Your Opinion: The Worst United States President Ever

                    Originally posted by Thorjohn View Post

                    You really belive God spoke to him, don´t you?


                    Considering how successful Mr. Bush's two terms were, I'd definitely conclude there was a divine hand guiding him all the way.

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                    • Bobby-Joe
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                      #130
                      Re: Your Opinion: The Worst United States President Ever

                      Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
                      Considering how successful Mr. Bush's two terms were, I'd definitely conclude there was a divine hand guiding him all the way.
                      Godly words Brother. The policies of Mr Bush's presidency has all the markings of a man who constantly talks to God.

                      Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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                      • WilliamJenningsBryan
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                        • Jan 2007
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                        #131
                        Re: Your Opinion: The Worst United States President Ever

                        Originally posted by Thorjohn View Post
                        Do you know what democracy is? What I´ve seen on this forum isn´t any democracy loving people, you´d like theocracy more, wouldn´t you? So you´d be a little bit more like Iran and Saudi Arabia...

                        We indeed know what democracy is – the tyranny of the majority. "Democracy" is any group of thugs that out number you can take away your property. You need laws, and not just any old made up "laws" passed by a "democracy" – a government of laws and not of men. Then just where are you going to get these "laws" – from some wigged out self appointed "law giver" like Hammurabi, some camel dung stoked up false "prophet" like Mohammed, or from God Himself handed down to Moses and the instructions from Jesus.
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                        • Thorjohn
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                          #132
                          Re: Your Opinion: The Worst United States President Ever

                          Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
                          Considering how successful Mr. Bush's two terms were, I'd definitely conclude there was a divine hand guiding him all the way.
                          I mean no offence to you Reverant, but the word "success" is very debateble, wouldn´t you say? Depends on the viewpoint, doesn´t it?

                          And since God gave us all a free will, he resigned his "patent" on both ethnic and opinionmaking. We make that choise

                          But I know how politics work. They are no better in Americe than here in Europe. One good thing you can say about the Bush administration is, that they played it open. They didn´t even try to hide their real agenda. With their Bible in hand, sure, but common if that would work in Europe, our politicians would do the same...

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                          • Thorjohn
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                            #133
                            Re: Your Opinion: The Worst United States President Ever

                            Originally posted by WilliamJenningsBryan View Post
                            We indeed know what democracy is – the tyranny of the majority. "Democracy" is any group of thugs that out number you can take away your property. You need laws, and not just any old made up "laws" passed by a "democracy" – a government of laws and not of men. Then just where are you going to get these "laws" – from some wigged out self appointed "law giver" like Hammurabi, some camel dung stoked up false "prophet" like Mohammed, or from God Himself handed down to Moses and the instructions from Jesus.
                            Well, imagine if you had voted Mr. Bryan into office. Well - there would have been a loss there, TR might not have become president.

                            Do you consider your Constitution to be eternal? You can´t force the morals, ethics, laws and way of thinking on the future generations, can you? They have the right to claim their freedom, as did your Founding fathers.

                            And the "Tyranny of the majoroty," is the worst case scenario possible in democracy. We could find many examples of that in history, and in many different countries. But you can practise democracy in a civilization, and you could, with your beautiful construction of it...

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                            • WilliamJenningsBryan
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                              • Jan 2007
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                              #134
                              Re: Your Opinion: The Worst United States President Ever

                              Originally posted by Thorjohn View Post
                              Well, imagine if you had voted Mr. Bryan into office. Well - there would have been a loss there, TR might not have become president.

                              Do you consider your Constitution to be eternal? You can´t force the morals, ethics, laws and way of thinking on the future generations, can you? They have the right to claim their freedom, as did your Founding fathers.

                              And the "Tyranny of the majoroty," is the worst case scenario possible in democracy. We could find many examples of that in history, and in many different countries. But you can practise democracy in a civilization, and you could, with your beautiful construction of it...
                              Theodore Roosevelt was part of the vile "progressive" wing of the Republican Party that first unleashed a long string of socialist "deals" starting with his "Square Deal" (followed by socialist FDR's "New Deal" and Democrat Harry Truman's "Fair Deal"). He was an embarrassment to True Republicanism and was part of a long string of RINO's, neo-cons and other communists under which we have long suffered. The Tea Party is presently our only hope for bagging and purging this long line of treasonous politicians.

                              As to your uninformed notions of "democracy", I suppose it's fine with you if 51% of the country voted to institute a Godless atheistic communist dictatorship just like Obama is doing.
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                              • Thorjohn
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                                #135
                                Re: Your Opinion: The Worst United States President Ever

                                Originally posted by WilliamJenningsBryan View Post
                                As to your uninformed notions of "democracy", I suppose it's fine with you if 51% of the country voted to institute a Godless atheistic communist dictatorship just like Obama is doing.
                                I would find no problems if it did. I´d not find it as fine, if they voted in some Godly theocracy. Leave God out of politics, and goverment. Democracy doesn´t need a God, does it? What about people of other faihts and religions? What about the atheists?

                                A Constitution wich guaranteed freedom of religion should do the trick all the time. And since you have one of those, you shouldn´t worry too much. Not even Barack Obama can forbid you to belive that the Earth is flat. That right is guaranteed to you in your Constitution.

                                Otherwise you shouldn´t worry too much about the unsaved - we are just fine. Society is also there for us you know. We live in the same world as you. So you migth settle for secular society while you´re here on Earth, the Heavens are waiting for you anyway. As for the rest of us, we probably wouldn´t wanna go to such a place, so I do not see your probleme...

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