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  • Unfalsifiable
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    • Jan 2008
    • 836

    #16
    Re: Other Planets?

    Above us is the second ocean with the lights in it, I believe (most importantly the light we call the "moon"). I think Pastor Billy Reuben knows a lot about it. As for other 'planets' I suggest until the day you are standing on one, with PROOF they exist, don't be a fool believing in some hogwash that some lab coated geek has told you.
    READ THE BIBLE

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    • Pastor Ezekiel
      Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
       
      • Sep 2006
      • 78556

      #17
      Re: Other Planets?

      Originally posted by MindUser View Post
      Why did God make other planets that have nothing on them and cannot sustain life. Surely He would have covered them in natural resources for us to use like he did on earth?
      A better question might be "Why did God create mockers who ask trick questions in a Christian forum?"

      The truth is found in the pages of the Holy Bible. Sitting around on your pimply ass and demanding "Why" of God is pointless. Everything He wants us to know is in the KJV. Praise Jesus!!
      Who Will Jesus Damn?

      Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

      Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

      Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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      • Mindlessness
        Unsaved Trash, Lying bastard
         
        • Jul 2008
        • 68

        #18
        Re: Other Planets?

        Well i wanted to ask you guys because you seem like learned people, and not to offend you or the Lord.
        I'm not a Liar, and thats not a lie!

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        • Bob4God
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          Hands folded for Jesus
           
          • Apr 2008
          • 5274

          #19
          Re: Other Planets?

          I've always loved looking at the stars. It's wonderful what GOD made just for us!

          IF there are other planets in our so-called 'solar system' they might be void of life because of sin. It's possible that when Adam and Eve at the forbidden fruit that all the other people on the other planets flew back to Heaven, or simply moved to a nicer neighborhood.
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          • Gothzilla
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            • Jul 2008
            • 60

            #20
            Re: Other Planets?

            I get the feeling I'm going to stir up a lot of trouble here, haha. So first, my disclaimer. I am a saved Christian, I am indeed heading for Heaven.

            Originally posted by Brother_Percy
            Scientists HATE God, and they will do everything in their power to brainwash an unsuspecting public into believing just about anything.
            I'm quite familiar with science and scientists. Science does not hate God, nor do all scientists. Science is fundamentally unable to disprove God, so any so-called "Scientists" out there trying to "disprove" God are wasting their time. It's impossible with the established back-bone of science, the "Scientific method".

            Originally posted by Deaner
            Can't you see that science begins with "s" just like satan?"
            I would like to point out that "soul", "saved", "saint", and "sacrifice" also start with 's'. Just because two items start with the same letter does not indicate a correlation.

            Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel
            A better question might be "Why did God create mockers who ask trick questions in a Christian forum?"
            Come on, man, MindUser asked you a question. Answer it, lol. If you don't know the answer, simply say "I don't know, but God made them for some reason."

            Originally posted by Brother_Percy
            You can't be too careful, NASA has a hand in all these places. They have to keep their cover going. I even here some of the new fangled telescopes they sell have tiny computers inside them, to show you what they want you to see.
            Conspirital nonsense. I have taken my telescope apart before for maintenance (the objective--the biggest mirror that collects the light--was dirty, and in need of cleaning). When I put it back together, I found that the objective was misaligned slightly. I didn't care, as I could still see rather well through it. My point is that if that telescope has a "tiny computer" that could show me "what [I] want to see", I would know about it. The "what I want to see" would be in a different location then what I actually see.

            I ask you, Galileo also saw clouds on Jupiter. Did his telescope have a tiny computer in it? Remember now, this was the 1600's.

            Originally posted by Brother_Percey
            I will ask you again, how many actual Planets do you think there are? There is a belief that the only Planets that really exist are the 10 or so in our own 'Solar System', and the rest are just stars. What would you think of that?
            There are 8 known planets in our solar system. So far, 307 planets have been found outside our solar system using a variety of techniques such as Doppler spectroscopy, photometry, and gravitational microlensing.
            2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

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            • Gothzilla
              Unsaved trash
              • Jul 2008
              • 60

              #21
              Re: Other Planets?

              On my profile, I see "Unsaved Trash". If you want to lead people to Christ, it would be best to do it in a manor that is pleasing to Him. Insulting people without knowing them is simply unethical. I know Jesus Christ would not have such hostility as you people.

              I am not offended, I know the truth about myself, that I am saved, Christ knows it too.

              You should ask your self "What would Jesus do?" more often. If you do, you might find you could change your behaviors in such a way to lead more people to Christ. When I am trying to witness to someone, they often point out how many Christians are hateful people. I assure them that they are not following the scriptures as well as they should, and that true Christianity is about following the writings of Jesus and applying them to our lives to improve them.

              So, you may wish to be more conscious about yourself. Actions like that often lead people away from the Light.
              2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

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              • Brother_Percy
                Honorary True Christian™
                Forum Member
                • May 2008
                • 1359

                #22
                Re: Other Planets?

                Originally posted by Gothika View Post
                307 planets have been found outside our solar system using a variety of techniques such as Doppler spectroscopy, photometry, and gravitational microlensing.
                My my what a load of fancy-sounding big-words you use there.... sounds just like Alchemy, Devil worship, Black Magic and Satanic mumbo-jumbo to me.

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                • Bob Kaare
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                  Forum Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 27

                  #23
                  Re: Other Planets?

                  Originally posted by Brother_Percy View Post
                  My my what a load of fancy-sounding big-words you use there.... sounds just like Alchemy, Devil worship, Black Magic and Satanic mumbo-jumbo to me.
                  Hahaha!
                  I figured you guys would come up with a response like that!
                  btw, i can't take you seriously. I am convinced that this is all a joke.
                  you've provided some good laughs the last few days

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                  • Mindlessness
                    Unsaved Trash, Lying bastard
                     
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 68

                    #24
                    Re: Other Planets?

                    Just because you don't know something about a topic doesn't make it evil.
                    I'm not a Liar, and thats not a lie!

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                    • Bob4God
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                      • Apr 2008
                      • 5274

                      #25
                      Re: Other Planets?

                      Gothika,

                      Most scientists who aren't Christian are people who've become angry at our LORD and want to try to convince themselves and others that He doesn't exist. They do not want to be held accountable to Him.

                      Okay, so you claim to have a telescope and have allegedly taken it apart and put it back together. Did you inspect all of the little pieces and thingamabobs in it? What size is the telescope? How much detail on the 'planets' are you actually able to 'see?'

                      What we know about folks like Galileo comes from secular scientists and historians. Why should believe them?
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                      • Gothzilla
                        Unsaved trash
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 60

                        #26
                        Re: Other Planets?

                        Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer
                        We are more than happy to insult, berate, intimidate, beat, torture, or kill as needed to save souls
                        Originally posted by Brother_Percy
                        My my what a load of fancy-sounding big-words you use there.... sounds just like Alchemy, Devil worship, Black Magic and Satanic mumbo-jumbo to me.
                        This is what I mean. You simply attack. You do not care what it is you attack, you simply attack it.

                        I don't see how studying light from other stars is devil worship.

                        I choose to think about it like this:
                        God made the universe.
                        We try to understand His universe.
                        We try to understand God's creation.

                        I can't speak for God of course, and would not attempt to, but if I made something vastly complex, I would be happy if others try to figure it out. It gives me a sense of accomplishment.

                        Originally posted by MindUser
                        Just because you don't know something about a topic doesn't make it evil.
                        I agree 100%.

                        I don't understand Marine Biology too well. But I know it isn't evil.


                        Try this.
                        God made the universe, and he made the physics that run it. He made the universe work in a consistent mannor. God is perfect, he's not going to make the universe inconsistent. God made it to where the sky is blue, the grass is green, water is clear, light travels at a constant speed, gravity holds us to the Earth, and all of that.

                        Let's take photometry.
                        It's where you simply watch the light of a star for a long while.

                        Yeah that's it, just looking at light.
                        "Photo" meaning "light", and "metry" being to measure.

                        Does looking at light sound like Devil worship, Black Magic, and Satanic mumbo-jumbo to you?

                        In your overwhelming urge to attack that which you don't understand, you present yourself, and this website, in a mannor that is repulsive to people who need to be saved.

                        I mean seriously, Brother Percy, the whole entirety of your response was nothing more than an uneducated attack. That doesn't win souls to Christ, that pushes them away.
                        2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

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                        • Bob4God
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                          • Apr 2008
                          • 5274

                          #27
                          Re: Other Planets?

                          Gothika,

                          Are you ignoring my previous question to you above because you don't have an answer, or did you simply miss it?
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                          - Proverbs 15:3

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                          • Mindlessness
                            Unsaved Trash, Lying bastard
                             
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 68

                            #28
                            Re: Other Planets?

                            You are a learned citizen friend, you have made a very good point, i mean i don't understand how a light bulb works or how computers work, are they evil? no do many people on Landover know exsactly how a computer or a DVD work? no but that does not mean they are evil and satanic, i'm confident that everyone has used and have a computer or a DVD player.
                            I'm not a Liar, and thats not a lie!

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                            • Gothzilla
                              Unsaved trash
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 60

                              #29
                              Re: Other Planets?

                              Forgive the double-post, a new response arrived before I had finished writing my previous post.

                              Okay, so you claim to have a telescope and have allegedly taken it apart and put it back together. Did you inspect all of the little pieces and thingamabobs in it? What size is the telescope? How much detail on the 'planets' are you actually able to 'see?'
                              I didn't inspect everything. I know where one would place a something to display an image. It would have to be between the object I'm looking at and the eyepeice. (How this object can "go away" when the telescope is pointing away is something that I don't have figured out yet, lolol).

                              Being as the objective is misaligned slightly, everything I see through the telescope is slightly shifted. The only place where this "computer" could be then is somewhere between the objective and the secondary mirror (which channels the light from the objective into the eyepeice), and the eyepeice itself. I have indeed looked into this part of the telescope.

                              The telescope is a 14 cm reflector. For Mercury, I see nothing but a hazy dot (Mercury is always low in the horizon when visible, and atmospheric effects distort it a lot). For Venus, it's all solidly one colour, but I can make out the phases (i.e. a "crescent Venus"). I can see Earth pretty well . For Mars, I've made out some dark (comparatively) feature on it's surface, which I never did find out what it was, as well as what I think was the southern ice cap. For Jupiter, I can see the equatorial zones and bands, which show up as brighter or darker lines going across the surface of the planet horizontally. Furthermore, I can see four moons of Jupiter, which were discovered by Galileo in the 1600's. (sometimes I can't see all four, as the moons sometimes go behind Jupiter or in front of it). For Saturn, I cannot make out any surface features, which is unsurprising, as Saturn doesn't really have any visible ones unless you're up close (i.e. the Cassini Spacecraft). I can see Saturn's moon Titan, and on exceptionally dark nights, the moon Rhea. I have never attempted to find Uranus or Neptune through the telescope.

                              In October of 2007, a comet broke up releasing a lot of matter into space and appeared as an expanding comet for a month or two. This occurred after I bought the telescope, so if a computer in there truly was trying to deceive me, it wouldn't be able to as it was completely unaware of the existence of the comet. The telescope revealed detail about the comet's debris cloud, which appeared like a semi-faint circular feature, with a bright dot at the centre.
                              2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

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                              • Brother_Percy
                                Honorary True Christian™
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                                • May 2008
                                • 1359

                                #30
                                Re: Other Planets?

                                Originally posted by Gothika View Post
                                I mean seriously, Brother Percy, the whole entirety of your response was nothing more than an uneducated attack. That doesn't win souls to Christ, that pushes them away.
                                OK then, show me where in the Bible it teaches about using Doppler spectroscopy, photometry, and gravitational microlensing?

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